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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2007, 08:59:20 PM »

Glad your bro and his wife are ok.  Amazing skill / luck to keep the rubber side down!  Those freaking deer suck!  Scared the crap out of me while touring through Colorado this year.  Saw a bunch while riding through rain and then snow while reaching the top of Slumgullion Pass.  Just glad that they never decided to bolt and t-bone me they way your got hit.  Glad everything went well. Love the forest rat term  Lol
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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2007, 11:25:24 AM »

I think what would cause this "plowing" philosophy to work would be the same thing as when you hit a smaller object.  If I were ever in a terminal gonna hit a groundhot or possum situation, I'd do the same thing.  Basically, you brake till you can't anymore but right before impact, you want to regain your fork travel to avoid the direct transfer of force if you use up the rest of the suspension travel.  Hitting a deer could be the same.  If your forks are all compressed nearly to the stops while braking then if hitting the deer transfers any downforce to the forks, you don't have anything left.  Maybe the full travel of the forks being available absorbed enough of the impact to allow the bike to stay upright regardless of whether the deer was cut in half or not.  

Yes, I realize that most of the impact would be frontal but imagine that imact in slow motion.  If the front of the bike hits the lower part of the deer, the bike will still continue forward with the force going somewhere.  Likely into the forks.  

It's a theory...one I hope to never test.
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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2007, 09:13:41 AM »

If I am going to hit anything undesirable, I want to NOT be on the brakes at point of impact.  If you are hard on the brakes when you hit, forks will be compressed and the ability to make last millisecond decisions will be hampered.  Anytime I have been in such a situation, in a car or on a bike, I find that I am off the brakes when I need to be.  I don't think about it though, but have found that to be my automatic response.
But then, I haven't smacked a deer yet.
Last week, coming along Hwy 61 near the Canadian border, a deer dashed out across the road in front of Basket and I.  Neither of us saw him coming, just there he was.  Luckily, it was far enough in front of us that we did not have to evade.  Stupid deer.
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« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2007, 11:58:37 PM »

As a fire fighter and medic I have seen many of these incidents. I will say that if your going straight, and have enough room after striking a deer, maintaining and or or accelerating some can help. Basically an object in motion wants to continue in the straight line it's already traveling in. Additionally, if your on the brakes your bike dips, thus striking the deer lower, and possibly sending him higher into you. By accelerating your bike stays high and straight. I have seen people injured both ways, and killed...But Just recently a buddy hit a blacktail on his harley, he went right over it on the gas and kept the pig upright. It caused 5k in damage, but he is ok because he didn't panic, and didn't go down. I smoked a deer a couple years ago on a GS, but it was small and I didn't even slow down, kind of like running over a dog, don't ask how I know that.

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« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2007, 12:28:05 AM »


We have them in the U.P., not that far from Menominee actually, but up der day call dem MOOSES.  YAH, I know dats misspelled, eh.


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« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2007, 08:33:06 AM »




That idea doesn't work for MI forest rats. I think the white tail are the largest deer in the nation except the mule deer out west.  

Good to hear everyone is OK.


Actually, it does. Having witnessed it first hand. Even with the Michigan road rats.
Before I forget, I think that if you are lucky, it's better to "lay it down" rather than impact them upright. That is, of course, if you are lucky enough to even be able to think. I have three friends (2 dead)  that received broken necks from 2 deer and 1 cow. They have a tendency to come over the top of you and snap your head back.
  The particular case I am talking about was on I 96 east from Lansing. Apparently there was some Harley ride for a charity and there were literally hundreds (if not thousands) of them all parading along on I 96 causing traffic jams. Intermittently, it would rain then the sun would come out. Every time there was a shower, they would all pull over and huddle under a bridge to the extent they would block the right lane. I was on my Suzuki RF900 coming back from my daughters in Lansing, heading toward Dayton, Ohio. Cursing having to sit, stopped/creeping along in the rain for about a mile every time this happened.
  Then, it happened again, everyone on the brakes, bikes parked on the shoulder-- Dang it! But wait, it's not raining! As I came to a rather quick stop, cars ahead were pulling over to the shoulder. People were running out onto the expressway. I saw a big smear of green on the road-- manure-- someone hit a deer. Then, I saw the hind quarters of the deer and blood. Then, as the cars ahead pulled over or passed through, I saw what happened. Two Harley's down. The big wide glides or whatever they are called-- full hard bags and the big windshield/fairing that turns with the handlebars. More blood. I did catch a glimpse of the 4 riders, laying motionless on the road. One lady, older, heavy set ("matronly") laying face down, wearing her DOT approved plastic hat( sorry, meant "novelty helmet"). Her little sleeveless leather vest, so fashionable moments before, all shiny with blood and her sleeveless white blouse stained with blood. She was in the middle of the road and I passed within ten feet of her. Her more than ample arms looked like bloody hamburger. Did I stop? No, there were already 30 or more people there. I was just stunned by the whole scene as I crept by. About 50 yards further up the road was the front half of the deer.
  So, yes-- you can saw them in half. Even Michigan deer.
I count myself lucky so far. I used to live in East Jordan and worked in Bayshore. Worked late one night and heading home, I saw a couple of eyes glowing in my headlight. Dog? Cow? No-- deer. A herd of them, suddenly found myself smack in the middle and had to literally run diagonally across the road with them to keep from hitting them. Being shouldered by a few before I could get it stopped.
  I am scared to death to ride a country road at night and even in the day, I stay as close to the center line of the road as possible to give myself as much reaction time as I can.
I have had plenty more close encounters--but-- thats another story

And, one more thing-- if you are in a car, and you have the time to think, do not hit them with the brakes on-- the compressed front of the car scoops em up and deposits them through the windshield and into your lap. (advice to my EX from a Michigan State Po Po after she did exactly that).
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