Buell 1125R for 2008

[DogBoy]

Hmmm...


click for movie

[Mastros2]

I would like to demo it.  See how it compares to the evo engines.  The exhaust sounds good though!

[Kiwi]

ooooo, me likey. I want one!

[miles]

I can't find any info on this bike.  What engine can they get a 10,500 rpm redline out of?

[Mastros2]

A little here as well, http://www.sporttwin.com/Forums/viewtopic/p=33611.html.
Supposedly, there is a announcement tomorrow, 7/8/07, about the 2008 lineup.  

[1KPerDay]

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=1078606383

mODS PLEase leave in general for a while.... this is huge news.


 

[Brad1445]

I had a pow-wow with my Local Buell dealer a few weeks ago.  I have been assured I get the first one they receive!

[toddrod]

woah...I just splooged a little

[Ranger01]

Wow.

[Lawn Dart]

Noooo.  I'm calling Bullshit.  That's just wayyyyyy too damn cool to be possible.  An 1125cc 6-speed 145hp motor - that's a ground up rebuild.  Can't be just a sleaved 1200 motor.

And a 5.6 Gallon in-frame tank.  

Where's the fookin' droolie guy.



I'm sorry - it just doesn't exist without real pictures.

My wallet just beat a little quicker.  Damn.  

[FirstVtwin]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  No way...I'm in.  Where do I sign?  One problem...in one of the shots it looked like there was that huge scoop on the side to get air to the rear cylinder...this one had better be water cooled to cope with all those ponies!

[garry]

NEED. MORE. INFO.

Price? Availability? Ergo info?

As much as I like it, I think the Ninja bike is doomed. Too many interesting bikes about to not get a new ride... This new Buell may have just moved to the top of the list...

[mr. coffee]

WOW!!!!!

Can't wait....!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting...I read off badweatherbikers that it's a 72 degree v twin. Doubt it's a Rotax engine as aren't those 80 degree? Can't wait to get the details.

[stromgal]

It's a Rotax, built for Buell. Liquid cooled.  I think the 145hp is crank, not rw.

[Orson]

hold on a minute...

those riders may have been 5'1" tall

 

[xsrider]

Holly crap.    A Buell without some old Harley V-twin engine!!  The 1125r looks like it could be a winner.  

[keystonejenks]

Very, very interesting. It looks they stole the front fairing from a Ducati.  Somebody I know is currently bikeless. Is it just me or could Honda take a cue from Buell and Triumph.

[Lon]

Rumor that they'll have a public debut in Aug. @ Laguna Seca?

[Tyrroneous]

If that video is accurate, the 1125R has the ability to steal more than a few sales from some of the big guns.  C'mon Buell...lets see some pictures!!!  

[marc11]

Ooops, I just crapped my pants!  

[davop]

Do you think thats a V-rod based engine???

[Tritium]

Wow. Is it still belt driven? Still have hydraulic valve adjusters?

[K12RS-Kerwin]

So the Rotax finally makes its appearance.

[Johnny Monsoon]

This may be the biggest breakthrough bike in the last decade.  I'm impressed and excited.  Everyone knows Buell's handling is legendary, now that it has an engine to match... I'm speechless!

[jude]

Dayum!

[SuperSlider]

It's about freakin time!  Not much of a Harley guy but I have to admit I've been secretly rooting for Buell to get it right. This is America for pete's sake you'd think we could build a kick ass sportbike.

[maddjack]

  Finally A Buell without a Sportster engine,When Can I get one

[garry]

The word on BadWeB is that it's a Rotax engine. Buell's big 2008 announcements are on Monday. You can be sure I'll be checking their web site first thing in the morning. This could be The One.

[maddjack]

The word on BadWeB is that it's a Rotax engine. Buell's big 2008 announcements are on Monday. You can be sure I'll be checking their web site first thing in the morning. This could be The One.

If the ergos are right who knows,it may find a place at Rancho de maddjack

[thatguy]

The dealer show is this week.I've been hearing '08 would be a year for Buell.I'll let ya know what I see next week.BTW the Rotax is a 60* engine.

[Hickey]

The slipper clutch might be like the Rotax version found on Aprilias.  I'm guessing Rotax for the engine.

Did anyone else see the bit about 5+ gallon tank?  Being that was MCN, is that UK gallons?

Do it, Buell!  

[Schneegz]

So, does this mean that Mr. Buell will finally quit spouting all that nonsense about how the Harley engine really was the engine he wanted to use?  It's not as though anyone believed him anyway.  

[chornbe]

Could that have been false and/or leaked? 'cause it ain't there no' mo'.

[mr. coffee]

Here's a poor quality still from it...

[Playinthestreet]

So, does this mean that Mr. Buell will finally quit spouting all that nonsense about how the Harley engine really was the engine he wanted to use?  It's not as though anyone believed him anyway.  

Nah, he and Kevin Cameron are going to start a new company to build radial aircraft engine.

[RideAboutNow]

Could that have been false and/or leaked? 'cause it ain't there no' mo'.

Yeah...video has been deleted.

DOH!

[Mastros2]

I don't know about you but I'm excited now!  Erik's got a great marketing team!

[UFO]

Video gone...so it's off the the Buell forum.

[thatguy]

At this point there's nothing on H-D net about it.Maybe next week.

[keystonejenks]

The dealer show is this week.I've been hearing '08 would be a year for Buell.I'll let ya know what I see next week.BTW the Rotax is a 60* engine.

Come on, it cannot be the "year for Buell" and the "year for Honda" at the same time!  

[1Arm]

http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=398

[Tiger]

They are smart as hell to go with Rotax!    

[Head]

Need money NOW!!  Who wants a youngish lightly used kidney? 15k and thats cheap at the current market rates  

[boxjoint]

Here is a working link to the video:
http://www.aussiebuellriders.info/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=1255&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

[wfo]

lets kill another link for the video!

http://www.aussiebuellriders.info/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=8255#8255

[1KPerDay]

See it now before it's deleted again...

supposed to be officially announced on Monday.

[boxjoint]

I think it gets announced tomorrow (Sunday) the last day of Buell Homecoming (wich would make sence for an unveiling. Why would they do it right after? )

[Schneegz]

They are smart as hell to go with Rotax!    

Smart?  It's about freakin' time!

[1KPerDay]

FINALLY!! I cant even begin to express the amount of self controll it took for me not to tell you guys about this thing!

The engine is a Rotax V-twin, it at least looks similar to the one in the 'priller mille. The styling is a bit off in my opinion, but what can you expect from buell?

If its still in the same state as i saw it, it will have digital guages, turn signals in the mirrors, dual radiators on the sides (ala superhawk) behind 2 huge scoops that dont quite match up the upper fairing (looks weird in person) and no clip ons... the handlebars are part of the triple clamp (all one big peice of aluminum). The rearsets are the mounting bracket for the drive belt tensioner pully, which means aftermarket peices will be a bit trickey. They did away with the oil in the swingarm (thank god, it was a horrible idea if you ask me). The hydrolic clutch felt really Powerful and sleek.

According to what i gatherd from the drivetrain guys the engine makes TONS of power, the limiting factor was emissions, so im guessing some re-tuning will open up even more power. There was also problems with the oil level, supposodly there are so many nooks and cranys in the engine that the oil level readings were very sparratic, the measure on the dipstick would change by a quart or two randomly.

The brakes were even bigger than the standard XB units, the wheels appeared to still be the same units (but they were already some of the best out there).

Soooo... thats about all i can remember for now, besides that the riders thought it was fucking AWESOME.

from a buddy on anoether forum who inerns at hd

[thatguy]

Gee Buell's trying to make an American Aprilia.

[RideAboutNow]

Damn!

Buell me!!!

[Brad1445]

New Link

http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzkRAbfHI6M

[Brad1445]

and another in case that disappers also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzkRAbfHI6M

[Jeff N]

lets kill another link for the video!

http://www.aussiebuellriders.info/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=8255#8255

Cool viddy.

Harley and Rotax have had connections for years now. You think those Harley badged 600s racing in flat track are really Harleys?

Kudos to Erik Buell. I hope this turns out well.

[Thor]

The thing is I have never seen or heard of a 72 degree Rotax.

[UFO]

Looks like an SV (headlights included), at least from the small, blurry video.  How about some stills in yer video MCN?

[Jeff N]

The thing is I have never seen or heard of a 72 degree Rotax.

Adjust the machinery and you've got an Aprilia motor. Solid. The only thing is, can the Harley wrenches down at the Fat Boy shop that deigns to sell Buells work on it.

[maddjack]

Adjust the machinery and you've got an Aprilia motor. Solid. The only thing is, can the Harley wrenches down at the Fat Boy shop that deigns to sell Buells work on it.

They get sent to school like all the other shops every time they upgrade or what ever(V-rod for one).Around here we have several dealers who sell both HD and Japanese products so I don't think it will be all that dramatic a change for them.The w ay I lok at it my Local triumph dealer also sold BMW's then added,Ducati,then Paggio and vespa ,now KTM.If the wrenches are worth thier salt they will be fine just like anywhere else

[Snowbird]

There was also problems with the oil level, supposodly there are so many nooks and cranys in the engine that the oil level readings were very sparratic, the measure on the dipstick would change by a quart or two randomly.

That should be good. About half of new Aprilia owners cannot do an oil check and therefore overfill. And then there's oil change time....     

Not bashing Buell or Aprilia, just the stupid public.

The real question for me this this: Will this bike be released with relaxed ergos and included hard bags? Without those two criteria, the bike is a 'no sale' for me.

[Mastros2]

I agree with Snowbird.  If there is a new lightning, I'm in!  This might make me get a new Buell!  Sorry tuber, it's been nice!

[sgoat]

I'd like to see a Ulysses version. Hopefully they get the seat height lowered a bit for us vertically challenged.  

[TheRedOnesAreFaster]

The lack of a "real" motor (i.e.- water cooled, short-stroke, high-revs) has been what's kept me away from Buell for all the years they've been in production.

It might be a little late for me, though.  I've got my heart set on a Speed Triple- the Buell would have to be absolutely stellar to talk me out of that.

[travlr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzkRAbfHI6M

[chornbe]

It looks like an R-1 or something.

[Rincewind]

Thank you!  I couldn't open the video from the previous thread on this bike.  Glad to see Buell evolving forward.  

[nanbil]

It will be interesting to see what else Buell does with this engine...can anyone say 1125 Ulysses?

[UFO]

Just merged about 4 topics with the same links and discussion.

[Prubert]

It will be interesting to see what else Buell does with this engine...can anyone say 1125 Ulysses?

Nope.

The Uly is getting some improvements tho...

Check the Buell website after 3pm EDT Today (sunday 7/8), they are announcing at the H-D dealer convention in Nashville.

[mr. coffee]

Rotax based engine + Harley servicing delearship =  

[xcsp]

I'd like to see a Ulysses version. Hopefully they get the seat height lowered a bit for us vertically challenged.  

I'd like to see that as well, but as Prubert states no big changes to the Uly?  Maybe the STT-version??

Only a few hours to see what's coming.

[Rogue]

Looks to be like a great sportbike with the power to put the competition down.  146 at the crank?  Wow!  That means 130+ at the rear wheel!  And if the bike weighs less than 450 lbs wet, it's going to be a killer.

I wonder though, for those of you who keep saying that the only thing that keeps you from buying a Buell is the engine.....will you REALLY buy a Buell now?  Talk is cheap.  Let's see if you put your money where your mouth is!  My guess is many of you will find some other excuse NOT to buy it.  

Interesting other footnotes on that video:

"47 mm inverted forks"
"Quiet Rider Environment" - what does that mean?

[UFO]

I wonder though, for those of you who keep saying that the only thing that keeps you from buying a Buell is the engine.....will you REALLY buy a Buell now?

Nope

[Playinthestreet]

Nope

Nope +1

[AV8OR]

If the bikes looks good, can be reliable, I can get parts for it, and they make it into a lightning or ulysses....then yes I will!!!

[DogBoy]

I wonder though, for those of you who keep saying that the only thing that keeps you from buying a Buell is the engine.....will you REALLY buy a Buell now?  Talk is cheap.  Let's see if you put your money where your mouth is!  My guess is many of you will find some other excuse NOT to buy it.  

I'm hoping for deep discount pricing on Firebolts.

[mr. coffee]

Pics and clips are up on the Buell site. $11995 MPR....

http://buell.com/en_us/bikes/sportbike/1125r/index.asp#

[UFO]

It has gills.

Dry weight 375 lbs.  Wow.

Looks like fun.  Unfortunately, according to the images/movies on the website, it's not something I could ever fit on.

[xcsp]

I was surprised to see the belt final drive on the 1125R, which is fine by me.

Will definately want to check it out in person!  Bet the Buell demo ride attendance picks up next year!

Now to see how they progress from here, as will we see this or a similar powerplant in the other models in the future?

[atadaskew]

Looks to be like a great sportbike with the power to put the competition down.  146 at the crank?  Wow!  That means 130+ at the rear wheel!  

146hp at the crank with , say, a typical 15% loss by the time it hits the rear tyre = 125 rwhp.
So, with a bigger motor than the 1098 it still spots it 20hp.  And it makes about as much hp as a much smaller Honda RC51...

[mr. coffee]

More pics on badweatherbikers.com...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/290585.html?1183935769

[Busy Little Whiner]

WTG Erik... about time to retire the stone of a motor... don't another 10 years before up grading to the V4...




 

[R Doug]

I just covered the entire mini-site for the 1125 at Buell dot com...  

[Rogue]

Nope +1

 

Thought so.

It needs to have wings, fly at 200 mph, and cost less than $10k.  Plus, Buell needs to drop any association with H-D right?  

Right.

[Rogue]

It looks like they spent a bit of time in the wind tunnel.

The fairing is suppose to provide the rider with a lot of wind protection, even around the hands and arms.  Nice.    

They also relaxed the ergo's.  The picture shows a rider in a near-upright riding position, but with his feet tucked in (for ground clearance no doubt).

Unfortunately, it appears the 1125R will not have the low maintenance of the XB12R.  There are dual throttle bodies so it will require synchronization.  10,500 RPM means valve adjustments.  Although Buell describes it as a simple, Finger-Follower that makes shim replacement quick and easy--whatever that means.  Oh well.  The price of power I guess.  Still belt drive though.  Who were those who said Belt drive can't handle high horsepower?  

Hmmmm....if this bike turns out to be very good, I may be looking at a new Buell in 2 years.    Maybe.

The bike is basically THE sportbike many people have been asking for.  Kudos to Buell for listening.  

[Busy Little Whiner]

 Still belt drive though.  Who were those who said Belt drive can't handle high horsepower?  

Yep the 14mm pitch belt is a predictable HP handler... it's the buyer who is scattered and irregular...

[pearsonm]

I've been dying to try a twin for years now, so I'm hoping the 1125 will work for me. One of the biggest reasons I've never owned a Buell is that the insurance has always been significantly higher. I've also heard the transmissions are clunky. Finally, I’ve never liked how heavy the clutch pull is. If Buell would take care of the mechanical issues I could look past the extra insurance cost.

[jed]

I like it overall.  The gills are a bit odd, but I think Buell is a form follows function guy.  The HP, front end, weight, and price all look good.  I suppose in October or November we'll be reading the press reports.

[boxjoint]

 

Thought so.

It needs to have wings, fly at 200 mph, and cost less than $10k.  Plus, Buell needs to drop any association with H-D right?  

Right.

I am right there with ya Rouge. This thing seems to have been several years in development, has killer specs, and many innovations. Unortunately some people won't buy it because it is made in America! Kind of makes me ill that some folk think that way. I like all makes and models of bikes no matter what country of origin but - if there is an American equivilant I would make sure to get that one.

I am just gonna get giddy when they test it and it pisses all over the competition so the haters have to eat what they fed out.

I am very very happy about this announcement for a few reasons.

1) I really really like Erik Buell. He makes sure to mingle with his coustomers and regularly rides with them. Buell Moco is not some corperate Giant ran by buisnessmen who don't even know wat a swingarm is.
2) We now have a full production American Made superbike. I HOPE TO HELL they compete in the series.
3) I have been Yearning for a lightning long or Super TT and now leftovers would be cheap to come by!

Also by the looks of the other models the engine cases are very different.

[Spectreman]

http://www.sporttwin.com/index.php

the vid is linked to the site above/Lee

[pearsonm]

I wonder if a 900 is in the works?

[UFO]

Does it really matter why people do/don't want to buy a particular bike?  I don't have the time to obsess about such things.  

Looks like a great bike...not some peoples cup-o-tea.  Pure and simple.  As much as I'd like to own one over every bike ever made...I just can't seem to swing it.  

[AV8OR]

I think its pretty cool....final opinions will wait till i see one in person and ride it.

but Im not in favor of the belt drive. I have had some experiances with the belts breaking on the xb models....If the belts break with 80ish hp...how will it handle 130. Im eager to find out.


Priced awesome though!
Gauges looks sweet!!

[DannyZRC]

I went from a 98 VFR to an 05 GS about 2 years ago. 2-3 months into owning the GS, when I realized I was going much faster than I had been on the VFR, I realized I missed the feeling, the connectedness and the drama and theater of the sportbike ritual.

been softly looking for a playbike since, tried the STT but found the engine to be very lacking, was slowly coalescing into a GSX-R750 purchase decision.

But not anymore, that buell is the sportbike I've been waiting for *anyone* to build. I'm glad buell beat the rest of the world to the punch with putting his excellent ideas together with a real engine.

sign me up, I want to buy one.

[Playinthestreet]

Thought so.

It needs to have wings, fly at 200 mph, and cost less than $10k.  Plus, Buell needs to drop any association with H-D right?  

Right.

Pretty defensive about that are ya?  FWIW, save the last 6 months I've had at least one H-D in the barn for nearly 30 yrs.  I've ridden or owned 916s, 748s, T595 Tri, etc...  They're all 50mi motorcycles for this old fart.  I need 145hp like I need another orifice in my head.  

Given his interview with Kevin Cameron less than 2yrs ago when he said he saw no reason to ever use anything other than an air cooled engine in "his" bikes, my guess is that H-D forced this down his throat.  Until H-D took a majority interest in Buell the one item of standard equipment on every Buell was a recall notice.

[Hoss]

A Buell with all it's technology, and finally with a new motor! God dammit, I just bought a bike!

Looks to be a full on superbike, and a 375lb dry weight  

[Snowbird]

It looks like they spent a bit of time in the wind tunnel.

The fairing is suppose to provide the rider with a lot of wind protection, even around the hands and arms.  Nice.    

They also relaxed the ergo's.  The picture shows a rider in a near-upright riding position, but with his feet tucked in (for ground clearance no doubt).

Unfortunately, it appears the 1125R will not have the low maintenance of the XB12R.  There are dual throttle bodies so it will require synchronization.  10,500 RPM means valve adjustments.  Although Buell describes it as a simple, Finger-Follower that makes shim replacement quick and easy--whatever that means.  Oh well.  The price of power I guess.  Still belt drive though.  Who were those who said Belt drive can't handle high horsepower?   

Hmmmm....if this bike turns out to be very good, I may be looking at a new Buell in 2 years.     Maybe.

The bike is basically THE sportbike many people have been asking for.  Kudos to Buell for listening. 

With relaxed ergos, I might buy one even without hard bags. I like V-twins. Belt drive is great. And, it's a hoot to stuff it up the ass of the skeptical. Not that I'd do that.

Where can I see a pic of a rider mounted on the bike?

[Dichotomous]

wow, that looks and sounds way too much like an SV1000 with radiator covers, maybe R1 lights grafted in up front.
should mean the firebolts will start arriving used cheeper.
that said, I will say this:  "Had I the means....."

[scott-sts]

I'm very disappointed.  Buell managed to convinve me to buy a Harley motor and now they change it?  I'll never give up my Harley engine!

Having owned an Aprilia Falco, I think most folks will be shocked to find that the Rotax motor makes more noise than the horrible Harley motor they've been bashing for years!
I hope Buell doesn't lose what makes their bikes special in the first place.  No, not the Harley engine, i'm talking about the design that allows for such great handling.  Buell managed to create a bike that feels completely unique; hopefully this will not be gone from the new version.   

[Snowbird]

Having owned an Aprilia Falco, I think most folks will be shocked to find that the Rotax motor makes more noise than the horrible Harley motor they've been bashing for years!

Yes, they are noisy SOB's. I'm thinking about adding sound deadening material to the outside of my valve covers. Earplugs help.

[mr. coffee]

With relaxed ergos, I might buy one even without hard bags. I like V-twins. Belt drive is great. And, it's a hoot to stuff it up the ass of the skeptical. Not that I'd do that.

Where can I see a pic of a rider mounted on the bike?

Here's some live pics showing a rider on the bike...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/290614.html?1183988469

[TheCloser]

I was just doing a ride with Rogue on Saturday the 7th of July and when we stopped for lunch, we talked at length about how our Buells, Rogue's Firebolt and my Lightning, are really great STREET bikes but would get far overmatched on a track.  It seemed that Erik Buell had indeed made, IMHO, the perfect bike for spirited street riding with easy maintenance, good mileage, and exceptional handling with a high fun factor.  Now comes the 1125R...DAMN, that is really something else!  

As an aging fortysomething with an already surgically repaired spine, this machine would probably give me back spasms just sitting on it, but what a machine!   I applaud Buell's decision to listen to the marketplace and address the brand's perceived shortcomings in a very aggressive way.  Am I going to sell my Lightning if the next generation Lightning follows suit like this.  Probably not, because mine is paid for and I am going as fast I as want to, but I do think that a lot of potential Buell buyers who ran far from the brand may indeed now belly up to bar and make a purchase.  It is just a great time to a motorcyclist in general and a Buell enthusiast specifically!!!

[nanbil]

I look forward to the day that Buell puts this engine in the Ulysses.  Perhaps he'll call it Calypso  

[1KPerDay]

I've been dying to try a twin for years now, so I'm hoping the 1125 will work for me. One of the biggest reasons I've never owned a Buell is that the insurance has always been significantly higher. I've also heard the transmissions are clunky. Finally, I’ve never liked how heavy the clutch pull is. If Buell would take care of the mechanical issues I could look past the extra insurance cost.

Switch insurance providers.

[1KPerDay]

10,500 RPM means valve adjustments.  Although Buell describes it as a simple, Finger-Follower that makes shim replacement quick and easy--whatever that means.    

Hopefully it's like the ZX-11 style with rocker arms actuating the valves... slide the rockers to the side, swap the shim. Easy-peasy.

[Rogue]

Hopefully it's like the ZX-11 style with rocker arms actuating the valves... slide the rockers to the side, swap the shim. Easy-peasy.

I believe it is that way.

And there are only two cylinders to inspect.

[Jeff]

I like the Buell's because they're different. I think the Lightning is a badass bike. If I was going to buy a Buell, it'd still most likely be the Lightning.

BUT, I applaud them for doing this. I hope they sell 'em by the truck load. I also hope they go Superbike racing with it and have better results than the Harley Superbike effort.

Jeff

[pearsonm]

Switch insurance providers.

Yes, I tried that but with no success.    

[Rincewind]

I'm not in the market for a bike right now, but I still can't wait to test ride this 1150R!  10,500 RPM redline - I'm so there!  Low redline was my major peeve with the XB's.

Funny they're not calling the 1125R an XB.  Why is that?  It still has the perimeter frame like the XB's...  Does "XB" somehow relate to the Harley-origins of the engine?

I'm very glad to see they did away with the ugly clocks of the XB series -blech!  I hate the font they used to use.

I would definitely consider a Rotax Buell as my next bike in 4-5 years.  With this engine change, I would hope Buell has stepped up on a level plane with the Italian twins and the English triples.  Looking forward to finding out for myself.  

[1KPerDay]

Yes, I tried that but with no success.    

Try State Farm. They only look at ccs.

[davop]

Try State Farm. They only look at ccs.

This is true. I pay 1/3 less for my FZ6 (600) than I would for a 650.

[Lawn Dart]

This bike makes me VERY glad I bought an R12GS this year...

Because the 1125 might be the perfect complimentary bike to it!

[Snowbird]

Here's some live pics showing a rider on the bike...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/290614.html?1183988469

Thanks.

[Hickey]

I am not in the market for a new bike.  That said, I am very impressed with this new Buell.  When the time comes to get an additional bike to serve as a short sporty ride and track day bike, that Buell will be in the running.

I hope this bike is the first model of a whole new line-up, perhaps with a sport-TOURING bike in there.  Someday the FJR will be due for replacement and the more options there are the better.

[Dave_S]

I hope Buell does well with this bike, I would like to see an American company do well in the superbike market.  There are some things I like about this bike, but I am not sure I totally like the styling, hopefully the performance and handling are there, that is what really counts.  I wonder which manufacturers/models will lose out if this bike is successful?

[jed]

Speaking of American superbike manufacturers whatever happened to the company that was using the Korean motor and building the bikes in Maryland or somewhere?  Wasn't there a bunch of hype about them about a year ago?

[Jeff]

That would be the Fischer, but they're not a superbike. They're running a 650 V Twin like the SV650, but with Ohlins and such.

Jeff

[keystonejenks]

That would be the Fischer, but they're not a superbike. They're running a 650 V Twin like the SV650, but with Ohlins and such.

Jeff

Yeah, they clamied to have gone into production in August of 2006 but I haven't heard anything since. I do know the engine didn't meet all the government regulations, maybe that's what held them back.

[JamesG]

More like a lack of ppl wanting to buy them and getting undercut by the much MUCH cheaper Alpha/Hoyosung bikes being sold by the same dealers.

[jed]

That would be the Fischer, but they're not a superbike. They're running a 650 V Twin like the SV650, but with Ohlins and such.

Jeff

I shoulda said sportbike instead of super.  In any case now I have the name and can google to my hearts content!

[Clive]

I wonder though, for those of you who keep saying that the only thing that keeps you from buying a Buell is the engine.....will you REALLY buy a Buell now?  Talk is cheap.  Let's see if you put your money where your mouth is!  My guess is many of you will find some other excuse NOT to buy it.  

I've already looked at Buells (Lightning Long, Ulysses) and they came up just short.  If I'm in the market when the 1125 motor comes along in something less than a full-on sportbike (like, say, an improved Lightning Long), I'd definitely give it a hard look.

[Jeff]

I shoulda said sportbike instead of super.  In any case now I have the name and can google to my hearts content!

www.fischer1.com

[naustin]

As a current Buell owner, and a future Buell owner, I just have to say....  

[MotoYoda]

Well, I guess I'll have to start saving up.  It's interesting that on the spec sheet the torque and HP are very close to my '05 FZ1 -- obviously the 1125R will make far more torque with significantly fewer RPM's (although they peak at almost the same ft/lb's at almost the same RPM).  I look forward to seeing its torque curve charted out.  It will probably be a good year before I'd have the cash, so that will give them some time to get any first year bugs out of it.  
Something to look forward to.  

Oh, and another thing, it blows my mind that its dry weight is almost the same as an SV650 -- imagine that bike with 140hp!

[1KPerDay]

don't mean to put a damper on your enthusiasm, but claimed dry weight and claimed crankshaft HP/TQ figures are like supermodels... lovely to dream about but absolutely nothing to do with reality.

[MisterSmooth]

I'm not in the market for a bike right now, but I still can't wait to test ride this 1150R!  10,500 RPM redline - I'm so there!  Low redline was my major peeve with the XB's...I would definitely consider a Rotax Buell as my next bike in 4-5 years.  With this engine change, I would hope Buell has stepped up on a level plane with the Italian twins and the English triples.  Looking forward to finding out for myself.  

Big +1.  With the Tuono and the BMW, I think for the first time ever I'm completely satisfied with the stable.

However, I've been intrigued with owning a Buell since the M2 Cyclone days and have ridden both XB's.  The combination of new-think technology, great (if different) handling, clean styling, and an American company (although ya gotta note that every manufacturer is sourcing parts from all over the world) is very appealing.

And now here's Buell with a big Rotax engine.  A Buell Lightning with a bored-out Tuono engine?!?  To quote BLS, "Mercy!"