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« on: July 28, 2007, 08:11:07 PM »

I did a search and I believe I saw 2 people who had done this before.  Could be more, but that's all I found.  Anyway, I was considering this for next year (since I'm out of vacation for this year).

My main question is the speed.  Do you have to keep a pace around 80 or so to have enough time for some sleep and resting for a few at stops?

I feel that I could handle this ride and seriously would like to look into it.  I live in Houston so I would have to ride a decent distance to anywhere to start.  I'm just looking for some feedback.  Thanks for any help.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2007, 08:38:58 PM »

I believe quite a few more than two people have completed a 100 CCC.  You could check the official Iron Butt listings for the lastest number.

Best resource to read about other rides is:

Iron Butt™ ride report index

http://www.freewebs.com/eamonn01/

You can spend a whole lot of time reading and learning there.  Just click on the 100 CCC icon on the left side and it will take you to about 35 different reports just for that type of ride.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2007, 09:08:18 PM »

I meant, I did a search on this site and only saw 2.  Not in the world.  Smile

Thanks for the link though.  I'll check it out.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2007, 09:13:54 PM »

I did the 100CCC in May 2006 with a friend of mine (San Diego, Jacksonville, SDO). Still waiting on the certificate to come through the mail though.

We tried to keep the average speed (moving) around 78mph. Both our bikes tended to see fuel economy drop off as we got much above 80, so 78 was a good way to go. We planned 4 hours rest stops at the half way point, in Kerville on the way out, and in Ozona on the way back. We did plan to catch up on sleep in Jax ... which we did end up taking a 7 hour break there. Still finished well ahead of the 100 hour time limit.

We left San Diego at 8:00pm Pacific time, which got us through the desert at night, and into Texas by sunrise. The idea here was cooler temps getting started, and no deer concerns for the leg out. We were originally pushing for San Antonio as the stop point on the first leg, but a severe thunderstorm started dumping hail on us just outside of Kerville, so we decided to pull off there, grab the sleep break, then just back on the road around 11pm. Leg two worked out so that we made it into Jacksonville just before sunset, so we had time to hit the beach, grab our water pictures, and get the end receipt before dark.

For the ride back, we did hit West Texas after dark ... actually hit San Antonio just after nightfall, but our stop in Ozona helped break of the deer country time into two segments, which seemed to make it more manageable. We then got back to San Diego with about two hours to spare before nightfall.

I had done the 50CC in 2005, and for whatever reason found the 100CCC to be easier. By day 3, you get a routine down, so it just becomes standard operating procedure. I think it also helped that I had someone riding it with me, as there was always someone on the other end of the CB to talk back to you, who shared the same experiences, and was running under the same time calendar.

Good luck on your trip!
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2007, 06:39:57 PM »

Thanks Cowboy.  It's good to get info from someone who's done it. Bigok
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2007, 10:15:51 AM »

I don't think the moving speed is really that critical as nearly anyone can ride 75-80 mph on the interstate for hours at a time.  The biggest factor is the time you are stopped; that's the wild card you should think about.  Any time you are stopped your speed is 0 and that factored into any average is going to reduce it significantly.  

You should figure out your intended mileage ahead of time and then determine what the overall average you need to keep to make the ride within 100 hours.  A GPS is worth its weight in gold on a ride like this as you'll know instantly whether you are ahead or behind schedule.

You didn't say your riding experience.  I think it's critical to have done some long distance riding where you've had to manage your rest on the road, whether it's in a motel room or a rest area bench.  

The 100CCC is very do-able, but you'll need to manage your stops and rests as efficiently as you can.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2007, 10:54:36 AM »

Jimmy,i too live in Houston and although i have not ridden the 100cc(by personal choice) i have done the 50cc and several other LD endurance rides.
The 100cc will tax you pretty hard.
Make sure you read the rules very well and understand them.
Witness signing is one of them so you should get that issue lined up absolutely with a plan B backup.
Not sure how many timed distance rides you have done but for a ride like the 100cc i strongly suggest that you put in some ass time with rides like the SS 2000,BB1500,BB1500 Gold,etc.
These rides are very,very good training for rides that really tax your body and bike like the 100cc.
When i did my 50cc i chose the third week of April because i use that week each and every year for a moto vacation and that particular year that up coming Friday was the Good Friday Holiday.
So i left Houston at 5:00 A.M. on that Thursday morning and rode straight thru to Jacksonville Beach Fl to a Motel 6 i had another good friend and IBA rider from Georgia check out for me to make sure i wasn't in the blood and guts section of town.
Made it the 973 miles in slightly under 14 hours and stopping at all fuel stations that i was going to be stopping at when under way for the ride.
I changed one station because it was in a weird location and the pumps were old and the one i gassed up at didn't issue a receipt.
Anyway i used that Good Friday to line things up with the Jax Beach police(a great and helpful bunch for sure) and to get my bearings on the beach and Shell station and generally rest up.
Try riding the 1300 miles to Ozona Texas the first day if you do leave from Jax beach and sleep for around 5 hours.
I made it there in 20 hours and 45 minutes riding around 75 mph on my bone stock Bandit 1200 S.
Could have shaved that time off at least an hour if the bike had real headlights and if i had slept more than 3.5 hours the night before i left(long story there).
However imho you are really going to be tested on the return trip.
However, again,at least when you finish you will only have a 1000 mile ride back to Houston instead of close to 1500 from San Diego.
This you will surely appreciate if you complete the ride.
Let me know if there is anything i can do to help.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2007, 02:40:31 PM »

I just completed a CC50, Jacksonville Beach to San Diego a couple of weeks ago.   I completed the ride with 3 hours to spare and that was with a 7 hour stopover in Sonora for a meal and sleep.  

The ride comes down to your time management.   Keep your gas stops down to the shortest time possible. Eat and drink on the bike as much as possible.  Use a cool vest and a camel back to keep yourself hydrated.   Your time off of the interstate is what will kill your average speed.   As long as your moving,  you can complete the ride provided your don't have any maintenance or weather issues.

I rode a 06 Kawasaki Concours, stopping for gas every 225 miles.  Averaged 44 mpg for the trip and the bike ran perfectly the entire trip out and back.   Next year will be either the CC100 or the Four Corners Tour.  I'm leaning for the four Corners Tour provided I can save up the cost of the trip prior to taking it.    

 
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2007, 12:09:45 PM »

I'm planning a combo ride next spring (50CC, 4 corners, and B2B) so the comments here a great assist in getting my plan to firm up.

One thing I learned again and again was that you need to keep the wheels turning. On my BBG1500, I had a GPS screen configured for average speed and was amazed how fast it dropped; and how hard it was to get back to the magic number. My ST1300 has about a 300 mile range at 75mph but that's pushing it so I use 270-280. On my BBG I averaged 8 minute stops for the entire distance (8 stops as it was a preapproved route and had a number of short legs). That was pushing it as I learned that I needed more water and better cooling (both solved) so I have increased the stop times to about 12 minutes.

My thoughts are that a 50CC is either a BBG1500 and a SS1000 or 2.5 SS1000s. A 100CCC is 5 SS1000s. I know that I can do multiple SS1000s, I don't know if I can do 5 in a row (there's that nagging doubt that can kill any chance of success). I plan to ride a few multiple day SS1000s to see what I need to do to stay safe and gather a few new tactics. I'm also considering it a BBG and SS and looking at a rest somewhere past 1500 miles thinking if I do the BBG in 23 hours, I can sleep for 8, and still have 19 hours to do the rest. The last portion of the east-west ride is tougher than west-east and that's one of the areas that I need to work on.

I did my SS1000 with two other low range bikes (120 miles between gas stops), lots of long breaks, and we still did it in 16 hours (on my BBG1500 I beat that time by about 2 hours). My thoughts are to do it as consecutive SS1000s as I already have the SS and BBG rides documented and submitted. From what I've been reading and researching this is very possible and the sleep/break times can help me with time windows as well as a safe ride.

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2007, 01:32:24 PM »

Hey there,

I'm the one that did the 100CCC with Charlie (Rocket Cowboy).  Charlie sums it up pretty well but always manages to leave out the stripper. Wink  Just yankin' ya Charlie.

Here's a full write up if you're interested and have trouble sleeping. It's LONG.
http://www.hard-core-ware.com/trips/100ccc-b2b/index.php

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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2007, 05:42:38 PM »


Hey there,

I'm the one that did the 100CCC with Charlie (Rocket Cowboy).  Charlie sums it up pretty well but always manages to leave out the stripper. Wink  Just yankin' ya Charlie.

Here's a full write up if you're interested and have trouble sleeping. It's LONG.
http://www.hard-core-ware.com/trips/100ccc-b2b/index.php

Curt


I thought we agreed to call the stripper stop a "rest stop".  Bigsmile
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2007, 05:11:42 AM »




I thought we agreed to call the stripper stop a "rest stop".  Bigsmile


Only around Grrl. Wink

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2007, 12:20:48 PM »



Here's a full write up if you're interested and have trouble sleeping. It's LONG.
http://www.hard-core-ware.com/trips/100ccc-b2b/index.php

Curt


Thanks for taking the time & effort to write it up.  Much respect.  I doubt I'll ever attempt anything like that but if I did, this report makes it seem possible... almost.

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