Why don't gear mfg's realize that tall women exist?

[dalan]

Argh!!

I'm so frustrated with trying to find riding pants for my wife.  There is nothing that works for her, and I mean nothing.  None of the women's gear is anywhere near long enough for her 36" inseam, and going to men's sizes to get the leg length results in pants that are waaaay too big in the ass and waist.

Right now she has a pair of men's First Gear Pilot sport leather pants in a long length that pretty much works, but they're so hot that she can only wear them in the coldest weather.  And they don't even make these anymore so no way to replace if needed in the future.

She's got a pair of women's First Gear meshtex pants also, but these are a poor solution.  They don't fit well, and she actually sewed on (yes, she knows how to sew  ) an extra 5" of material scavenged off an old pair of my pants to the bottoms of the legs to make them long enough.

She also wears a pair of fairly heavy fashion leather pants from Wilsons, on the premise that they're still better than jeans, but these obviously aren't made for motorcycling and have no padding or armor whatsoever.

Mostly, she just wears jeans because all these other options pretty much suck.

We've shopped everywhere we can find and nothing works for her.  What the hell is a tall, slender chick supposed to do for riding pants?
 

[Mac]

Your best bet may be one of the custom manufacturers like aerostich.com, www.zcustom.com or www.vansonleathers.com

[Lucky_Devil]

I've experienced the same problem.

I know that Joe Rocket use to have womens gear that came in "regular" and "tall" versions, but not every store would carry the "tall" versions... so your wife may want to look into that.

I've recently started just having custom gear made for me.... yes, it can be much more expensive than off the rack items, but it's worth it to have gear that actually fits.  If custom gear is not an option at this point, I would suggest calling newenough.com and asking them what brands of womens gear tends to run more slender/long.  They've always been really helpful over the phone while I've tried to hunt down gear in the past.

[bomber]

same reason that they don't seem to realize women other than size 6 ride --

sad -- and a chicken or egg situation -- "we don't have anything that size cuz we never sell any"

[throttlemeister]

Argh!!

I'm so frustrated with trying to find riding pants for my wife.  There is nothing that works for her, and I mean nothing.  None of the women's gear is anywhere near long enough for her 36" inseam, and going to men's sizes to get the leg length results in pants that are waaaay too big in the ass and waist.

Right now she has a pair of men's First Gear Pilot sport leather pants in a long length that pretty much works, but they're so hot that she can only wear them in the coldest weather.  And they don't even make these anymore so no way to replace if needed in the future.

She's got a pair of women's First Gear meshtex pants also, but these are a poor solution.  They don't fit well, and she actually sewed on (yes, she knows how to sew  ) an extra 5" of material scavenged off an old pair of my pants to the bottoms of the legs to make them long enough.

She also wears a pair of fairly heavy fashion leather pants from Wilsons, on the premise that they're still better than jeans, but these obviously aren't made for motorcycling and have no padding or armor whatsoever.

Mostly, she just wears jeans because all these other options pretty much suck.

We've shopped everywhere we can find and nothing works for her.  What the hell is a tall, slender chick supposed to do for riding pants?
 

Check out the European brands if you can get them there. Average length of EU women is significantly taller than in the US, so you can probably find something there, though you probably have to special order.

But damn, she must have some legs...  

[servicerifle]

You do realize that women with a 36" inseam represent a very very small portion of the riding population, right?  

Instead of complaining, how about just go custom?

[Lawn Dart]

Try BMW.  They make shorts and tall sizes for men - Dunno about women but it's worth a shot.  Aerostich and Motoport are worth calling as well.

[dalan]

Check out the European brands if you can get them there. Average length of EU women is significantly taller than in the US, so you can probably find something there, though you probably have to special order.

Yes, Revit comes closest; they have some nice stuff and she's already got 2 Revit jackets.  No luck with their pants though.  

But damn, she must have some legs...  

Indeed.  I have my own prurient motivations for wanting to get her stuff that fits.  


Can anyone comment on how perfed leather compares to mesh for hot weather riding?  I might try to talk her into custom Vansons if perfed would actually be cool enough.

[garry]

Barnacle Bill makes quality custom leathers at sane prices. http://www.racingleather.com

[RBEmerson]

And don't forget New Enough - they may be able to get to stuff that's the right size.  At least it won't hurt to ask.  

[seeeester]

The Den Mother is out of town until next week, but she's a 36" inseam and wears a 'Stich...  

[jschmidt]

They'll get to it right after they discover that big and tall men exist. Try buying affordable gear when you're 6'3 and 240. Its the same.

[servicerifle]

Perfed leather compared to total mesh?  No comparison as far as cooling is concerned, but I consider perfed mesh to be a-ok in 35F-95F as long as I have either a heated liner or I am able to keep moving in the summer, respectively (did this make sense at all?)

On the coldest days it won't quite be warm enough without a windshirt, gerbing liner, and a fairing, and on the hottest days it will be just a little too warm unless you pour water down your neck and enjoy the evaporative cooling effect (works really well, actually).

I can say that my black leather perfed vanson jacket is good for 80% of the year, with appropriate liners and such.  I have the solid pants, but will be getting perfed ones soon for summer wear.

[bluepoof]

I feel her pain from the opposite direction.  

My hubby has a 34" inseam and wears Aerostich Dairen pants...I know they can take a "base size" and add length to the bottom, too.

[jadziadax8]

You might try Olympia.  They've started doing this EZ hem thing about 6 months ago, where they add 6" of material to the legs of their pants so that you can hem them to the correct length.  I wish they had done that sooner.  I bought my Olympia pants last year, and since I wear a size 18, I must also be 6 feet tall and have a 34" inseam.  Yeah, right.  The older pants are impossible to hem, so they bunch down at the end of my 29" inseam.

[Leanintree]

The same reason they don't make 'fat guy' sport style stuff. If you ride a plastic motorcycle, you're supposed to be 5'2" and weigh 120# max. Those of us at 6'4" and 240# aren't allowed to be part of the sport...

Leanintree

[Bigfoot]

Argh!!

I'm so frustrated with trying to find riding pants for my wife.  There is nothing that works for her, and I mean nothing.  None of the women's gear is anywhere near long enough for her 36" inseam, and going to men's sizes to get the leg length results in pants that are waaaay too big in the ass and waist.

Right now she has a pair of men's First Gear Pilot sport leather pants in a long length that pretty much works, but they're so hot that she can only wear them in the coldest weather.  And they don't even make these anymore so no way to replace if needed in the future.

She's got a pair of women's First Gear meshtex pants also, but these are a poor solution.  They don't fit well, and she actually sewed on (yes, she knows how to sew  ) an extra 5" of material scavenged off an old pair of my pants to the bottoms of the legs to make them long enough.

She also wears a pair of fairly heavy fashion leather pants from Wilsons, on the premise that they're still better than jeans, but these obviously aren't made for motorcycling and have no padding or armor whatsoever.

Mostly, she just wears jeans because all these other options pretty much suck.

We've shopped everywhere we can find and nothing works for her.  What the hell is a tall, slender chick supposed to do for riding pants?
 

Wow.  36 inseam for a lady.  Sexy.  My wife is 5'2 and I'm 6'5.  I think her inseam is 12  .  As far as your wife's problem it's no different for tall guys either.  I am long in the waist and have trouble finding shirts long enough for me.  I also have big feet and wear size 15 1/2 extra wide shoes/boots.  Whenever I ask shoe/boot stores why they don't sell my size they all claim supply and demand.  I've asked if it would kill them to at least stock a few and see what happens.  I think when I retire I'm opening a store for tall people only.  

[cultureslayer]

Has she tried on the Tourmaster venture overpants?  I have the same problem but not that bad and they are the only overpants I have tried that fit well.  

It also annoys me that most of the US companies make their overpants and gear in general a tube with a little elastic at the waist.  This does not work for women!  If I get pants to fit my butt and the knee armor is in the right place then someone else could fit in the waist with me!  Not all companies provide a hip measurement or inseam on their fitting charts either.  So annoying.  So far Fieldsheer and Teknic are the only brands of jackets I have had luck with.  The firstgear overpants are passable, but do become uncomfortable on longer rides so I guess it's time to spend the money on more gear.

[Bigfoot]

They'll get to it right after they discover that big and tall men exist. Try buying affordable gear when you're 6'3 and 240. Its the same.

Shrimp.  

[LicketySplat]

Can anyone comment on how perfed leather compares to mesh for hot weather riding?  I might try to talk her into custom Vansons if perfed would actually be cool enough.

I have a pair of custom Vanson pants I had made when I was wearing an articulated knee brace. They flow air very nicely. Temperature-wise they compare favorably with mesh. Where they lose in comfort is the weight; getting them on and off when sticky with sweat; and sticking to the seat. That last is the worst - no matter how much Armor-All I use, I still have to lift my butt completely off the seat to move from side to side. Not conducive to smooth steering.

Unfortunately I've had an ongoing issue with the fly seam tearing out at the base of the zipper. The way the pants were designed (and I actually had them install a longer zipper than stock), there is a lot of stress in that area, and the perforated leather just won't take it, even with a layer of reinforcement. I actually had to gum it up with glue to make it stop happening. Hopefully they've redesigned the pants since then... that was several years ago.

Mostly any more I wear mesh.

[bluepoof]

 If you ride a plastic motorcycle, you're supposed to be 5'2" and weigh 120# max.

Ha, I wish.  

[LicketySplat]

PS Servicerifle is nuts   Riding in perfed leather below 65 or 70 F will give you hypothermia, same as mesh. I believe some manufacturers make a zip-in wind stopping liner like the mesh jackets have. That, plus a couple-three layers of wool and silk, will keep it comfortable down to about 55 F.

[goodhawk]

did ya consider - aftermarket pads, maybe inside standard street clothes ? I like the aerostich pads with the stiff fiber shell over temperfoam , I put them into Draggin jeans, and also a standard Levis jean jacket . . . obviously not to race pro, but way bettern nothing. or poor fitting that doesn't get used.

[VIVID1]

Can anyone comment on how perfed leather compares to mesh for hot weather riding?  I might try to talk her into custom Vansons if perfed would actually be cool enough.

I wear Vanson perforated leather pants, they are not perforated all the way around though, from knee to ankle is solid in the front, but perforated in the back, and from the waist to the knee is solid leather in the back and perforated in the front.

I still wear them when it’s hot and they do get hot in 85 degrees and warmer.  

[VIVID1]

What about roadgear pants, you specify the inseam, I think they customize the lengths  

http://www.roadgear.com/catalog/index.cfm?Series=1&brand=2&BrandTitle=Pants%20and%20Overpants

[jadziadax8]

What about roadgear pants, you specify the inseam, I think they customize the lengths  

http://www.roadgear.com/catalog/index.cfm?Series=1&brand=2&BrandTitle=Pants%20and%20Overpants

Am I reading this wrong, or are they selling the same pants to men and women?  If so, that is about the stupidest thing I have ever seen.  If I find a pair of mens pants big enough to get over my hips, they're usually 6" too big in the waist.  Yes, I know this from direct experience in marching band, because marching bands are cheap and will generally only buy men's pants to save on expenses.

[bluepoof]

If I find a pair of mens pants big enough to get over my hips, they're usually 6" too big in the waist.  

Amen, sister.

[jschmidt]

Shrimp.  

Yea, I saw that too. Brings new meaning to your screen name.  

BTW, I'll be driving through your turf next week, on 95. Wouldn't it be a great irony if you pulled me over.

[Bigfoot]

Yea, I saw that too. Brings new meaning to your screen name.  

BTW, I'll be driving through your turf next week, on 95. Wouldn't it be a great irony if you pulled me over.

I won't be out there but car description, tag number and approximate time please?  Maybe I can set up an escort for you.  

[KLRchickie]

  If I find a pair of mens pants big enough to get over my hips, they're usually 6" too big in the waist.

Amen, sister.

+

Try having girl curves in the Canadian motorcycle gear market!!!  In a city of 1,000,000 people you would *think* there would be enough of a market, but nooooo.....!

I wear a Harley Davidson motorcycle jacket on my KLR, because it fits!  It also has CE rated armour.

Typical motorcycle jacket shopping experience:
me: where are your women's jackets?
them: right there!
me: oh, those 4?  Well, the PINK one is out, none of them have armour, (most are truly for "motorcycle ornaments" --- I ride!!!)
them: why don't you try a men's small?
me (sotto voice): because I have breasts...

As it is, I had to add length to the fuzzy part of the Velcro on the coat for the waist straps, but then, I had to on my husband's jacket too --- a sign of our obese society.

Pants have been fun.  

My (so-called) ladies Joe Rocket Ballistic 5 rain pants are *just* acceptable, with the waist cinched up as far as it will go.  I would still like the knee armour to be a little lower, but that is hard to fix without compromising the waterproofness.  I swear the only difference between the men's & the women's is the direction the fly zipper opens (we each have a pair).

My mesh pants are also Joe Rocket, but I am too lazy to go look at the model.  They are actally a men's small.  I was desperate last July & ordered them from New Enough after being told in Calgary that the "season was over"   and they would get no more stock (several stores) and New Enough was sold out of ALL of their women's mesh pants.  Once again, the waist is cinched up as tight as it will go.  I made the knee armour pockets deeper to drop the knees to where I need them, and took big darts in the bottom half of the legs to keep the hem from snagging on the footpegs. Flared pants on a motorcycle are a big no-no if you ask me!

[jadziadax8]

Try having girl curves in the Canadian motorcycle gear market!!!  In a city of 1,000,000 people you would *think* there would be enough of a market, but nooooo.....!

I purchase on the internet any more.  Brick and mortar stores never have the kind of gear I want.  If I wanted a flashy hot pink POS jacket, I'd try out for a spot in Grease.

Typical motorcycle jacket shopping experience:
me: where are your women's jackets?
them: right there!
me: oh, those 4?  Well, the PINK one is out, none of them have armour, (most are truly for "motorcycle ornaments" --- I ride!!!)
them: why don't you try a men's small?
me (sotto voice): because I have breasts...

 

[KLRchickie]

I purchase on the internet any more.  Brick and mortar stores never have the kind of gear I want.  If I wanted a flashy hot pink POS jacket, I'd try out for a spot in Grease.

 

Not that I haven't ordered a LOT of stuff on-line from the US, but I try not to with clothes...  I have a hard enough time trying to get something to fit when I can try it on in a store...

Most of the places that have free-shipping or free shipping on returns, or whatever, only offer that to the lower 48...  By the time I've shipped something back & forth a few times with duty & taxes, it costs a LOT!!!

[throttlemeister]

Yes, Revit comes closest; they have some nice stuff and she's already got 2 Revit jackets.  No luck with their pants though.  



Indeed.  I have my own prurient motivations for wanting to get her stuff that fits.  


Can anyone comment on how perfed leather compares to mesh for hot weather riding?  I might try to talk her into custom Vansons if perfed would actually be cool enough.

What's the size she needs? I can barely figure out my own size, let alone from a different species, but I'm happy to have a look around.

Lookwell (www.lookwell.nl) has pants in womens sizes 6 to 18.

Revit has womens sizes std 34-42, short in 36-42 and long 38-44.

Both have options in leather and textile. What I don't know is if they all that stuff in the USA, or even if those are sizes coming remotely close as to what she needs.

[servicerifle]

It's all a function of what you wear WITH your leathers:

No, I'm not nuts. When it's cold I wear the same perfed Vanson, then a windshirt underneath, and under that a Gerbings liner, and a tee under that.  It's a tight fit with a properly fitting leather jacket, but it keeps the gerbing closer to my skin, which is the point.  Not to be argumentative, but the only reason you think it's nuts is because you've never tried electric gear, I'm guessing.

Getting out of leathers (pants) is no problem if you use the proper gear...Underarmor leggings under the Vanson pants let them slide off no matter how sweaty you got.  No problem at all.

I know this will piss off some of you "giants", but I kinda get some twisted enjoyment in this.  You all walk in straight lines and don't even notice the shorter person you're about to walk into.  It's pretty annoying.  Damn, you can't fit on the shiny plastic bike...it breaks my heart.

[LicketySplat]

 You all walk in straight lines and don't even notice the shorter person you're about to walk into.  It's pretty annoying.  Damn, you can't fit on the shiny plastic bike...it breaks my heart.

  Here I thought that only happened to women! At least you don't have a husband who gets POd at you for either "allowing" people to walk into you or just giving up and getting out of their way!  

[GerryPetrecca]

Argh!!

I'm so frustrated with trying to find riding pants for my wife.  There is nothing that works for her

Mostly, she just wears jeans because all these other options pretty much suck.

We've shopped everywhere we can find and nothing works for her.  What the hell is a tall, slender chick supposed to do for riding pants?
 

Not much better being a 5'8" male with a 28" inseam.  Joe Rocket, FirstGearPants, etc pants are always too long and the knee pads are down around my shins.  

Best of luck in your search.

Gerry

[RBEmerson]

FWIW, Tour Master pants have adjustable knee pad locations (three choices, high, middle, low).  

[cultureslayer]

Not much better being a 5'8" male with a 28" inseam.  Joe Rocket, FirstGearPants, etc pants are always too long and the knee pads are down around my shins.  

Best of luck in your search.

Gerry

Gerry, You looking for a 1pc perforated suit by any chance?  I ask because my boyfriend had the same problem finding pants short enough and ended up with a Joe Rocket 1pc track suit.  It's just this one model that's got the shorter than usual inseam, but i can pull it out of the closet and check the tag if you want.  He wore his to Deal's gap and had no complaints.

[jschmidt]

I won't be out there but car description, tag number and approximate time please?  Maybe I can set up an escort for you.  

Like you can't figure that out from what you already know! We'll be in the Altima.  

[jadziadax8]

Not that I haven't ordered a LOT of stuff on-line from the US, but I try not to with clothes...  I have a hard enough time trying to get something to fit when I can try it on in a store...

Most of the places that have free-shipping or free shipping on returns, or whatever, only offer that to the lower 48...  By the time I've shipped something back & forth a few times with duty & taxes, it costs a LOT!!!

I've found that the manufacturer's size charts are usually quite accurate from the numbers perspective.  By that, I mean the waist is so many inches, etc.  Don't go just by S, M, L or by your dress size.  I guarantee they'll be wrong.  If you measure yourself, you should be able to find stuff that fits properly.  Most places only give waist and inseam for women's pants, with no hip measurement.  I've taken the plunge and found that if the waist is right, they usually get the hips right, too.  As I have in other threads, I will highly recommend Fieldsheer for fit.  They have a lot of adjustability built into their stuff, which I can't say for my Olympia gear.

[windsorgreen1]

We've shopped everywhere we can find and nothing works for her.  What the hell is a tall, slender chick supposed to do for riding pants?

The same thing guys who wear a size 5x do.........continue to wear jeans

[windsorgreen1]

Not much better being a 5'8" male with a 28" inseam.  Gerry

How about being 6' with a 28" inseam and need a size 62 or bigger jacket ? Long torso, even broader shoulders & a pot belly to match. I have to find something that first fits my shoulders & then is long enough to cover my gut/torso. The ONLY thing I've found was a jacket from Powertrip. Nice jacket though. Very Joe Rocket like as far as design but I beleive the quailty to be higher.

[goodhawk]

I checked - draggin jeans has womens lengths to 34" , ( reccomend ' relaxed fit'- leaves room at knees for additional pads) a little short fer original poster, but maybe marginally OK ( I think  my jeans are both slightly long for standard size jeans.)??

[Fourstring]

How about being 6' with a 28" inseam and need a size 62 or bigger jacket ?

...or being 6' 2" with 32 waist and 36 inseam?  I only weigh in at about 160 tops, so I wear mediums as a compromise.  Small with tall sizing would probably fit the bill better, not that anyone makes something so ridiculous.  Yeah, fitting Jadizia for gear's been an exercise in futility too.

Damn, didn't manufacturers consult ANY of us?  Does anyone who didn't buy custom have something that actually fits? :P

[cultureslayer]

...or being 6' 2" with 32 waist and 36 inseam?  I only weigh in at about 160 tops, so I wear mediums as a compromise.  Small with tall sizing would probably fit the bill better, not that anyone makes something so ridiculous.  Yeah, fitting Jadizia for gear's been an exercise in futility too.

Damn, didn't manufacturers consult ANY of us?  Does anyone who didn't buy custom have something that actually fits? :P

I like my Teknic jackets!  I just have to buy pants a size larger than the jackets and hope the knee armor isn't too high.  I've given up on finding ones that fit really well.

[atadaskew]

I sympathise for those who are tall or short, but not fat.  Really. Just got back from a trip to Austria, Switzerland and Italy and it is stunning to see how fat the average American is in comparison.  Instead of complaining that stuff doesn't fit, take care of yourself some more with the bonus that gear will also fit.
But that's the obvious solution and as the American way is to point blame anywhere but at oneself, let's just b1tch that the mfgs do not make "appropriate" size gear.
It is pathetic though at the limited amount of gear that most stores carry for women.  Looking through catalogues there actually is a lot of gear out there now, but most moto stores still only carry the tramp stuff.  I went gear shopping for a g/f and all the lady could show her (at DelAmo motosports in LA which has a really large gear area) were chaps, some bustier type things and some flared leather pants that while really cute, were fashion leather jeans not moto clothing as they were suede, no armour and very thin.
It seems the "higher" end stores, like at BMW and Ducati dealerships, have more to offer, but normally they also carry mainly the higher priced items

[jadziadax8]

I sympathise for those who are tall or short, but not fat.  Really. Just got back from a trip to Austria, Switzerland and Italy and it is stunning to see how fat the average American is in comparison.  Instead of complaining that stuff doesn't fit, take care of yourself some more with the bonus that gear will also fit.
But that's the obvious solution and as the American way is to point blame anywhere but at oneself, let's just b1tch that the mfgs do not make "appropriate" size gear.

+1.  That's why I started running 3 times a week.  I realized that if I wanted to ride and wear comfortable gear, I'd have to get my body down to a size that the manufacturers carry.  I still think it's ridiculous that by mfg's standards if you're fat you must also be tall.  I'm taller than average for women, but not that much above average.

[cultureslayer]

I sympathise for those who are tall or short, but not fat.  Really. Just got back from a trip to Austria, Switzerland and Italy and it is stunning to see how fat the average American is in comparison.  Instead of complaining that stuff doesn't fit, take care of yourself some more with the bonus that gear will also fit.

I have the opposite problem.  I'm dead on average for a US female height wise.  Middle of the "healthy" BMI range, and I have to shop in the juniors dept. because most places don't carry size 2.  WTF is wrong with the clothes they are making that I am average and a size 2 (3 or 5 in juniors).

[jschmidt]

I sympathise for those who are tall or short, but not fat.  Really. Just got back from a trip to Austria, Switzerland and Italy and it is stunning to see how fat the average American is in comparison.  Instead of complaining that stuff doesn't fit, take care of yourself some more with the bonus that gear will also fit.
But that's the obvious solution and as the American way is to point blame anywhere but at oneself, let's just b1tch that the mfgs do not make "appropriate" size gear.
It is pathetic though at the limited amount of gear that most stores carry for women.  Looking through catalogues there actually is a lot of gear out there now, but most moto stores still only carry the tramp stuff.  I went gear shopping for a g/f and all the lady could show her (at DelAmo motosports in LA which has a really large gear area) were chaps, some bustier type things and some flared leather pants that while really cute, were fashion leather jeans not moto clothing as they were suede, no armour and very thin.
It seems the "higher" end stores, like at BMW and Ducati dealerships, have more to offer, but normally they also carry mainly the higher priced items

Please post your measurements for comparison.

[Bigfoot]

I sympathise for those who are tall or short, but not fat.  Really. Just got back from a trip to Austria, Switzerland and Italy and it is stunning to see how fat the average American is in comparison.  Instead of complaining that stuff doesn't fit, take care of yourself some more with the bonus that gear will also fit.
But that's the obvious solution and as the American way is to point blame anywhere but at oneself, let's just b1tch that the mfgs do not make "appropriate" size gear.
It is pathetic though at the limited amount of gear that most stores carry for women.  Looking through catalogues there actually is a lot of gear out there now, but most moto stores still only carry the tramp stuff.  I went gear shopping for a g/f and all the lady could show her (at DelAmo motosports in LA which has a really large gear area) were chaps, some bustier type things and some flared leather pants that while really cute, were fashion leather jeans not moto clothing as they were suede, no armour and very thin.
It seems the "higher" end stores, like at BMW and Ducati dealerships, have more to offer, but normally they also carry mainly the higher priced items

Wow. What an ass you are.  The makers of clothes still have a long way to go and being "fat" is not always the problem.  I am 6'5 and weigh 275.  You'd think I was obese by hearing this but I just had my physical and was declared very fit.  I could stand to lose some weight and tighten some of the old muscles back up but otherwise I do fine.   I am long in the waist making it difficult to find shirts, jackets and such to fit well.  I am very broad in the shoulders and chest causing additional problems.  
Otherwise, you must have a grand time in life being perfect.

[atadaskew]

Wow. What an ass you are.  ...... I could stand to lose some weight and tighten some of the old muscles back up but otherwise I do fine.  

You just proved my points.  Lose some weight, tone up and see how much better you feel and how much better clothing will fit, as well as your energy level rise.  Then by all means call me an ass if that makes you happy.

[atadaskew]

I have the opposite problem.  I'm dead on average for a US female height wise.  Middle of the "healthy" BMI range, and I have to shop in the juniors dept. because most places don't carry size 2.  WTF is wrong with the clothes they are making that I am average and a size 2 (3 or 5 in juniors).

It depends on where you shop.  The retail industry in the US has recognised that people have become much fatter, but noone wants to buy "fat" sizes.  So what they did is change the labelling so, for example, what was a woman's size 6 is now a 4 or a 2.  This way people feel better about themselves and shop more.
You however, do not see this in the high end trendy fashion stores in places like New York City, Los Angeles (Beverly Hills, Melrose, Santa Monica), etc as there they run true to size.

[atadaskew]

Please post your measurements for comparison.

5'10", 155lbs.  I eat healthy during the week, have fun with food on the weekend.  Run the dog in the morning, then work out; skateboard along the beach at night before dinner.
There's no magic to this, just take care of yourself. I'm going to be 40 next April.

[windsorgreen1]

5'10", 155lbs.  I eat healthy during the week, have fun with food on the weekend.  Run the dog in the morning, then work out; skateboard along the beach at night before dinner.
There's no magic to this, just take care of yourself. I'm going to be 40 next April.

So your a puny runt who couldn't gain a lb if you wanted to.   You're actually 20 lbs under the "suggested" weight. Which would make you unhealthy as well.   Sorry gotta agree with the guy who called you an A$$. Not everything is as black & white as you see it.

[Bigfoot]

5'10", 155lbs.  I eat healthy during the week, have fun with food on the weekend.  Run the dog in the morning, then work out; skateboard along the beach at night before dinner.
There's no magic to this, just take care of yourself. I'm going to be 40 next April.

  I have turds bigger than you.

[cultureslayer]

It depends on where you shop.  The retail industry in the US has recognised that people have become much fatter, but noone wants to buy "fat" sizes.  So what they did is change the labelling so, for example, what was a woman's size 6 is now a 4 or a 2.  This way people feel better about themselves and shop more.
You however, do not see this in the high end trendy fashion stores in places like New York City, Los Angeles (Beverly Hills, Melrose, Santa Monica), etc as there they run true to size.

You think I am going to change oil in new $200 designer jeans?    I don't even BUY white shirts anymore.  I'll just stick to the juniors section so I can afford to replace my clothes after I get too much grease on them.

[atadaskew]

  I have turds bigger than you.

Which would explain a lot of your problems.

[atadaskew]

So your a puny runt who couldn't gain a lb if you wanted to.   You're actually 20 lbs under the "suggested" weight. Which would make you unhealthy as well.   Sorry gotta agree with the guy who called you an A$$. Not everything is as black & white as you see it.

Eh, unhealthy? Try hanging from a bar, pulling your legs straight and parallel to the ground, perpendicular to your body. Now do 20 pull ups in that position.  Thought as much.
Again, my point being proven.  Overweight out of shape people pointing fingers elsewhere.  I'm outta this one, enjoy your donuts and trying to find proper moto gear to fit.

[throttlemeister]

Congratulations that you can do that. I am really impressed. Honest. Especially the flaunting that goes with it.

But you're still an a$$.

And no, I have no problems with weight or finding clothes and I don't point away from whatever problems I may or may not encounter.

You however, are as ignorant at 44 as most are at 12. Life is not black and white. Not all problems can be fixed by a little excersize and not everything is caused by the wrong lifestyle. And certainly not all people with weight issues point their finger elsewhere. Most of them know very damn well where the problem is.

So congratulations on your 5'10"/155lbs/44yo frame which is I am sure the envy of your peers (if it's even there, it is after all still an anonymous internet forum), but you are still an obnoxious little a$$.

Grow up.

[LicketySplat]

So congratulations on your 5'10"/155lbs/44yo frame which is I am sure the envy of your peers (if it's even there, it is after all still an anonymous internet forum), but you are still an obnoxious little a$$.

Oh, just look where he's from. He's probably the scrawniest, most out of shape male in Venice Beach  

[Bueller]

Check out the European brands if you can get them there. Average length of EU women is significantly taller than in the US, so you can probably find something there, though you probably have to special order.

But damn, she must have some legs...  

Not all Europeans.  Dutch women are on average the tallest of any country on earth.  Try hitting the .nl sites

[RickC1957]

Want some cheese with that whine Order custom made stuff and get over it Jammin just ordered a custom Kelvar stuff for his trip to Mexico. Vivid has a custom Syed leather suit for the track. If you have odd body sizes....just order custom...yea maybe you have to skimp on some useless farkles (Ipod, XM BS, the GPS with all the lastest dodas) but you'll get stuff that fits and you'll be comfortable.

[KLRchickie]

  Order custom made stuff and get over it

From where is the major question?!  Custom motorcycle leather makers have not popped up in any looking I have done locally...  Maybe I was absent the day that they told us how to find those!

[LicketySplat]

From where is the major question?!  Custom motorcycle leather makers have not popped up in any looking I have done locally...  Maybe I was absent the day that they told us how to find those!

You gotta go to the races and have the manufacturer's own tech measure you. Do Not trust a tailor who has no experience measuring for leathers (the riding position is obviously very different from a business suit) and especially Do Not trust some dude/gal in a motorcycle shop. Measuring a human body is harder than it sounds, and if you're spending megabucks to get something made custom, you want it to fit right.

I don't know where your nearest CSB round is, or how far you are from Brainerd, but you wanted to go to the races anyhow, right? And visit the Arai tech too.

Of course you can always go to their plant, but racetracks are definitely closer and more convenient.

[bluepoof]

From where is the major question?!  Custom motorcycle leather makers have not popped up in any looking I have done locally...  Maybe I was absent the day that they told us how to find those!

My custom leathers were done by Helimot in San Jose.  Not local to you, but they do mail ordering as well and I've heard that they do a good job even when you can't physically come into the store.

[KLRchickie]

 or how far you are from Brainerd,

OK, I had to Google it --- Calgary, AB to Brainerd, MN is 1,848km by the "fastest" route --- I wonder how far it would *actually* be the way we like to travel?!?!?!  

Not this year, I can tell you that --- besides, we'd have to head over all that flatness.... we prefer West!!!  

Seriously though - thanks!    We keep reading about custom leathers, but hadn't the faintest clue how you go about getting them made....

[Giaka]

I am willing to bet tall wowmen have WAY more options that short tiny ones.

[austsalesdirect]

hello,
I may be able to help you guys. I run a online motorcycle apparel business located in Australia (we deal worldwide). Currently we are offering custom made motorcycle suits, The suit is made to fit and you get to choose your own colours, features/design.

Our prices are very reasonable and our 1 on 1 personal service ensures our customers are satisfied.

If you would like some more information or pictures of previous custom made items please email me at sales@austsales.com

thanks
matt

[jschmidt]

Wow.  36 inseam for a lady.  Sexy.  

That's what I was thinkin'.