Gen 5 vs Gen 6 VFR

[tourinoob]

Good finds Vitamin..I scan CL religiously. The 1st one I`m actually going to go look at this week, but I`m seriously digging the blue as well




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[tourinoob]

hmmm didnt insert the quote....ehhh you catch my drift anyway

[Viffer Vern]

Just to clarify, what Honda refers to as "Starter Valves" and/or "Starter Valve Synchronization" is actually the same as the FI Throttle Body Synchronization.  This is not a recommended service for VFR's unless the bike has issues with the FI at low speed, lumpy idle, hard starting, or throttle response.  

I recently just about read the VFR Service Manual looking for FI Throttle Body Sync procedures and could not find any.  It's not in the regular maintenance table either.  Nevertheless, the Starter Valve Sync is much easier to do than a standard FI TB Sync on other Fuel Injected bikes.  Thank you Honda.

Rogue,  which manual you are looking in?  I've got the 2004-2004 VFR800/A manual and the procedure is listed in section Fuel System section on page 5-76.  

[Rogue]

If a motorcycle becomes suspect after a no-speed drop, that seems like a case of quite poor engineering.

ALL MOTORCYCLES are suspect after a no speed drop.  They all sustain damage.  Some easily visible, some not obvious.  A bike with a fairing has additional parts that can be damaged/bent/cracked.  So if you're just looking at the bike from the outside of the fairing, it seems the fairing are just scratched.  But there may be bent fairing stays and other stuff you don't know about that are hidden behind the fairing.

Vern, my Service Manual is a 1998-2001 VFR800.  The Starter Valve Sync is listed in the fuel section as well, but is NOT in the maintenance table as a regular service interval.

[Viffer Vern]

Vern, my Service Manual is a 1998-2001 VFR800.  The Starter Valve Sync is listed in the fuel section as well, but is NOT in the maintenance table as a regular service interval.

Yeah, it's not listed in my book either as maintenance item.  It should be because it's as common as a carb sync, and it make a HUGE difference in the ridability of the bike.  

I did a track day before doing the sync and I remember that it was really difficult to set up for turns due to the abrupt power delivery.  I intend to do another track day and I suspect that it will be a much better experience.

[skater69]

I just test rode a '00 VFR.  I've crossed the VFR off my list officially now.  Don't want the VTEC....my shop won't work on it....and I sure won't.  The 2000 was a nice ride but underpowered IMO......not enough juice.  No dice for me.

[vguy]

I've owned both generations.  I would break it down like this:

5th gen:  lighter, more flickable, sounds sweeter, better as a "sport bike"

6th gen:  factory bags, felt more roomy even though I'm not sure it was, better as a bike to take touring.

I have noticed that the Skipper kept his 5th gen.  

[bill rowland]

I work in sales at our local dealership.Bought a 98 vfr new off the floor, have done the most common mods to the bike .Pipe, filter, ect.But always wanted a little bit more.So I invested in Racetec gold valves,and springs, Ohlins in the back. I must say it transformed the handling of the bike.But the kicker was when I had the bike dyno tuned by Mike Velasco here in the nortwest.Before 100rwhp, after 108.It now has over 62k trouble free miles on the od.The valves have been checked every 20k miles, never have they been out of adjustment.Ill put it up against any sport tour on a 5k mile trip.

[kyzrex]

I've found a fairly local dealer (only about 100 miles away) that has 2 leftover 2006 models on sale, 0 miles on both.  One is white, other is black...either one is 7499.00.  I think I'm gonna check these out next week and probably pull the trigger.

[traveler]

I've found a fairly local dealer (only about 100 miles away) that has 2 leftover 2006 models on sale, 0 miles on both.  One is white, other is black...either one is 7499.00.  I think I'm gonna check these out next week and probably pull the trigger.

That's a lot of bike for the money. I doubt you'll be disappointed. They're beautiful in either color.

As for me, I'm still happy with my 2000 VFR, with over 75,000 miles.

[Viffer Vern]

I've found a fairly local dealer (only about 100 miles away) that has 2 leftover 2006 models on sale, 0 miles on both.  One is white, other is black...either one is 7499.00.  I think I'm gonna check these out next week and probably pull the trigger.

I'd jump on that.  Is it asphalt black like the 04's?  If so you will like the color over the long run.  I've done a lot of riding in the rain and well, mud on my black bike and all and all it still cleans up really nice.

BTW, what part of the country do you live in where they have left over models laying around like that?  That deal would be gone before you even knew about it in CA.  Great find!

[rauchman]

I'd jump on that.  Is it asphalt black like the 04's?  If so you will like the color over the long run.  I've done a lot of riding in the rain and well, mud on my black bike and all and all it still cleans up really nice.

BTW, what part of the country do you live in where they have left over models laying around like that?  That deal would be gone before you even knew about it in CA.  Great find!

The 06's have a metallic flake black....almost gun metal grey but darker.

[tripledigits]

I just test rode a '00 VFR.  I've crossed the VFR off my list officially now.  Don't want the VTEC....my shop won't work on it....and I sure won't.  The 2000 was a nice ride but underpowered IMO......not enough juice.  No dice for me.

I sold my '02 VFR for precisely that reason.  It was a great bike in every respect but power.  I do some freeway commuting, and the bike doesn't have the grunt in 6th to contend with traffic.  I did like the ABS, ergos, looks and handling.  VTEC was an unnecessary and complicated feature.  Bought a Blackbird to replace the VFR and have never looked back.

[MuddDawg]

I sold my '02 VFR for precisely that reason.  It was a great bike in every respect but power.  I do some freeway commuting, and the bike doesn't have the grunt in 6th to contend with traffic.  I did like the ABS, ergos, looks and handling.  VTEC was an unnecessary and complicated feature.  Bought a Blackbird to replace the VFR and have never looked back.

So why didn't you just ride 1 gear down?

[traveler]

So why didn't you just ride 1 gear down?

Exactly. When I ride the local freeways, I'm usually in 4th or 5th, to be able to dodge all the idiots. Hurts fuel economy, saves lives.

[kyzrex]

I'd jump on that.  Is it asphalt black like the 04's?  If so you will like the color over the long run.  I've done a lot of riding in the rain and well, mud on my black bike and all and all it still cleans up really nice.

BTW, what part of the country do you live in where they have left over models laying around like that?  That deal would be gone before you even knew about it in CA.  Great find!

update on the 2006 vfr's.....called the dealership yesterday and got the "out the door" price.....add 637.00 dollars for fees and other charges!  I don't mind paying resonable costs...but 250.00 for dealer prep?  Who's preping it?  Al Ludington?  Only the black one is left...sspowersports, clarksville, indiana