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« on: November 28, 2006, 02:42:20 PM »

Any one anxiously awaitng the new bandit.  Seems like a good entry into the sport tourer without a huge investment.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 02:47:46 PM »

Looks to be the little gem of 2007. Suzuki appears to made just the right changes to keep it going for years to come. Other then not having ABS or linked brakes as an option.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 02:48:24 PM »

I would like to see how it compares to the gen I FZ-1 (not 2006+ gen II).
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 06:47:20 PM »

The key for me to think about replacing my '03 1200 bandit with a new one is engine smoothness and good throttle response.   Since the new motor has a balancer shaft I'm hoping it's gonna be a smooth soul-less sweet vanilla of an engine with all the torque bandits have been famous for.  Combine that with the updated headlights, liquid cooling, f.i., centerstand, adjustable seat, available hard bags and updated style, I'm pretty much sold.   Drool
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 07:05:49 PM »

The new 1250 DOES have ABS but NOT linked brakes.  I'm glad to see it comeing out buy my 00 Bandit dosen't seem like its going to die in the foreseeable future so I doubt I'll be out buying one right away.  I like to let new bikes run for a few years before I even consider them also.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2006, 07:24:41 PM »

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The key for me to think about replacing my '03 1200 bandit with a new one is engine smoothness and good throttle response.   Since the new motor has a balancer shaft I'm hoping it's gonna be a smooth soul-less sweet vanilla of an engine with all the torque bandits have been famous for.  Combine that with the updated headlights, liquid cooling, f.i., centerstand, adjustable seat, available hard bags and updated style, I'm pretty much sold.   Drool

Are they offering factory luggage for the new Bandit?
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2006, 08:11:42 PM »

From what I've been able to gather it may not be offered right away but WILL eventually be here.  If there is anything the Japanese bike manf. need to learn from Duc, BMW, and Harley its if you offer factory options people will buy them.  I would rather have some hard luggage like GIVI stuff thrown in on the purchace of the bike instead of having to buy them  outright after i buy the bike.  Its easier to swallow if I only have to pay for it 100 bucks at a time.
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2006, 08:21:31 PM »

This was posted on Motards online. The Bike pictured below has the new Givi bags (They can be seen at Twisted Throttle) but from what I can tell, givi does not yet make a rack for these bags for the Bandit as of yet.
 
The Bike was displayed at a European show.
 
My Suzuki source told me last year that the new Bandit would have bag options but he can still not confirm this is true.
 
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2006, 08:23:34 PM »

It looks nicer than the previous generation and the water-cooled, fuel-injected engine is nice, but it appears to have the same crappy suspension as before. I had an '03. Comfortable, wide-ranging power, good all-arounder, but the suspension was fair, at best. Still, for the price, it looks like a decent deal.

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2006, 08:55:10 PM »

Looks like if they do start to offer those accessories then they are probably aiming more towards the sport touring crowd.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2006, 11:06:39 PM »

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Its easier to swallow if I only have to pay for it 100 bucks at a time.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2006, 04:01:51 AM »

I would hope that they would have a bigger gas tank?
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2006, 08:16:22 AM »

OK, if you had to choose between the bandit and the new sprint of tiger?
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2006, 07:41:20 PM »

Hmmm....looks good to me.Wow
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2006, 07:53:24 PM »

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OK, if you had to choose between the bandit and the new sprint of tiger?

Sorry Banditos.
 
If price weren't an issue the new Tiger.
 
If price were an issue, a newish first Gen FZ1 and a set of beetle bags for less than the price of this new Boat anchor.
 
I don't know how Suzuki expects to sell many of these when it is so clearly blown out of the water performance wise...
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2006, 08:46:18 PM »

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Sorry Banditos.
 
If price weren't an issue the new Tiger.
 
If price were an issue, a newish first Gen FZ1 and a set of beetle bags for less than the price of this new Boat anchor.
 
I don't know how Suzuki expects to sell many of these when it is so clearly blown out of the water performance wise...
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Well up here it's priced the same as a new gen FZ-1 which is still a far superior & more modern bike. The ABS model is MSRP of $11,299. So much for a budget ride! The 2006 model could be had for $8300.00.Headscratch
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2006, 09:06:45 PM »

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Sorry Banditos.
 If price weren't an issue the new Tiger.
 If price were an issue, a newish first Gen FZ1 and a set of beetle bags for less than the price of this new Boat anchor.
 I don't know how Suzuki expects to sell many of these when it is so clearly blown out of the water performance wise...

Umm. Let's see...
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  • It has a tractor motor (I am guessing, comparing with the old one)
  • It is a street bike, not a track bike, not a traillie.
  • There are 2 million current or former Bandit owners who may keep an eye on how this one rides.
  • It is now liquid cooled and has bold new graphics.
  • Possible Baggage
  • They will be priced competitively most likely
The new FZ1 makes a lot of HP because it revs out to 40,000 which is not where I like to live on the street. Frick, Yamaha should have given the thing some more balls in the low and midrange and knock 20 HP off the top. Other than that, I like the new FZ1 and where they are going with it. The Tiger is a totally different segment which is supposed to be compteing with the Strom. Although I have yet to see a dirty one.

I would take any three, but will likely be walking this summer, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2006, 09:37:22 PM »

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Sorry Banditos.
 
If price weren't an issue the new Tiger.
 
If price were an issue, a newish first Gen FZ1 and a set of beetle bags for less than the price of this new Boat anchor.
 
I don't know how Suzuki expects to sell many of these when it is so clearly blown out of the water performance wise...
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With  the gsxr's, busa and now the bking in the line up I don't think suzuki was concerned with making a performance rep for itself with the new 1250.   The big bandit always has and always will be an everyman's practical performance bike.   I don't see suzuki touting the new bandit as a top performance beast.....it's just a modern version of the now 'classic' bandits.   If you really want to fly suzuki would rather you fly a gsxr, busa or maybe a b king into battle.  Personally, if all I wanted was ultimate power in a livable package I'd be looking  at a zx-14 or NEW concours 14.
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2006, 09:37:46 PM »

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The 2006 model could be had for $8300.00.Headscratch

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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2006, 02:01:43 AM »

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Yes, that is true. I think you were being punished!
 
I was in another local dealer today and the new 1250 priced out at 200 dollars more than the new FZ1. The salesman there (BTW this is the largest Suzuki dealer in my town) said that last year they only sold 4, 2006 B-12's (That was at the $8300.00 price) He does not think they will sell many at $11,500. I would very much agree with him.
 
They had a fully bagged 2006 brand new V-strom 1000 on sale for $10,500. There is no doubt in my mind which bike I would buy. (I am even one of those Bandit cult followers). Sorry, but that Strom would make a much better touring bike than the new Bandit will, and don't forget you would be adding about another $2000.00 to the B-1250 to equip it with hard luggage. (we are now at $12,500.00) You would have a bike with similar performance and also great two up comfort.
 
Lets see, for another $2000.00, you could have a Busa, which with a few mods would make a better, lighter & much faster ST bike than that new Bandit could ever be. Give me a Busa any day on a nice deserted BC highway.
 
Unless Suzuki puts some deep discounts on the new Bandit & get it back to the Budget ST bike, I am betting the new Bandit will be a huge sales failure.
 
I should also point out that the new FZ-1 will kick the new B-1250's butt in every aspect of performance. You just have to ride it differently than the B-1250. Just because the FZ-1 lacks in mid range torque, it does not make it a bad bike. The ZX-14 does not come to life until 6000 rpm either. Yes, mid range torque is fun, but that alone does not make a good all around motorcycle. I am sorry, but the new B-1250 was very dated in weight & suspension the minute it rolled off the assembly line. I have stated before that putting a WC & FI engine in the old Bandito, is much like putting lipstick on a pig! You still have an 80's era bike her boys & girls, at 21st century pricing.
 
My reason for buying my 2002 Bandit was a pretty decent all around bike, for a very low price. I can see no reason why I would make the same decsion at the MFG suggested list price of the 2007 1250.
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