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« on: December 23, 2006, 03:00:30 PM »
Which Ducati wins best of sound???

A) Desmosedici V4...
Start
http://www.hyperpastabiker.net/desmosedici_start.mp3
Fly by
http://www.hyperpastabiker.net/desmosedici%20fly%20by.mp3

B) WSBK 998 V2...
Start
http://www.hyperpastabiker.net/998f02start.mp3
Fly by...
http://www.hyperpastabiker.net/4V%20fly%20by.wav
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2006, 07:48:02 PM »
If there isn't an option for the whirr of the bevel drives and the megaphone exhausts of a pre-Pantah engine, this poll is worthless. Bigsmile
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2006, 04:01:29 AM »
One of your complaints concerning V-Twins is that the V-Twin configuration results in a rearward weight biass.  How does a V-4 of identical cylinder angle prevent such a weight biass?  Headscratch

For example, how would the Desmosedici engine result in a more forward weight biass than the Testastreta?
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2006, 04:09:23 AM »
To answer the original question, I like the sound of the 998 better than that of the Desmosedici.  I recognize that the Desmosedici is the superior race engine, but the I like the thudding baritone growl of the 998.  I also like the way it sounds like a WWII fighter (Mustang, maybe?) on approach.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2006, 06:48:46 AM »
 (A) - The Desmo V4 on the flyby gives me goose-bumps! Inlove
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2006, 08:22:00 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2006, 12:07:50 PM »
I like the sound of the 1098 ... hopefully, I'll be hearing it while I ride one this spring.  Bigok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WXLZWgkwfU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2RbkwzWox0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzDHXJeS95c

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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2006, 07:29:43 PM »
Man, that V-4 is spine tingling.  In the "start" clip, when it "gets on the pipe" and begins to wail, it brings tears to my eyes.  I must've listened to that clip 200 times when I was bike shopping.  It drove my family crazy;  over and over and over again.  Geez...I love it....

I shoulda bought a Ducati.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2006, 06:20:10 AM »
Firstly, is the interest level regarding how *other* sport bikes sound the same as the interest level of how a Ducati sounds, or is the keen interest in how a Ducati sounds, waaayyyy above and beyond any interest on how other sport bikes sound?

That fly by Desmosedici clip sounds more like an F1/Indy car than a v-4 bike. If it is a Desmosedici, it's very sexy, but the 999 at idle/take-off sounds the best of the clips. Too bad the sound of my ST3 on the Sil pipe is not included. That's the best sound of all to my ear.  Lol  
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2006, 08:50:37 PM »
Quote from: Schneegz on December 24, 2006, 04:01:29 AM

One of your complaints concerning V-Twins is that the V-Twin configuration results in a rearward weight biass.  How does a V-4 of identical cylinder angle prevent such a weight biass?  Headscratch

For example, how would the Desmosedici engine result in a more forward weight biass than the Testastreta?


Ducati's own V2 and their V4 sport identical cylinder angles... what's different is the length of those
cylinders... V2 sports long cylinders due to 990cc being divided by 2 whereas the V4 sports short cylinders
due to the 990cc being divided up by 4... the shorter the cylinder the more forward weight bias can be
achieved by moving the engine closer to the front contact patch...  

Long V2 cylinders...


Short V4 cylinders...
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 01:41:14 AM »
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b) WSBK 998 V2...
Start
http://www.hyperpastabiker.net/998f02start.mp3
Fly by...
http://www.hyperpastabiker.net/4V%20fly%20by.wav


The twin of course.  The MotoGP bike sounds too much like a I-4.   Lol
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 01:43:30 AM »
Quote from: Busa@11K on December 24, 2006, 12:07:50 PM

I like the sound of the 1098 ... hopefully, I'll be hearing it while I ride one this spring.  Bigok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WXLZWgkwfU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2RbkwzWox0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzDHXJeS95c

right click, save as:
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Oh I didn't notice the 1098 has a digital tach.  Boo!  Thumbsdown
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 03:53:42 AM »
Quote from: Busy Little Shop on December 26, 2006, 08:50:37 PM
Ducati's own V2 and their V4 sport identical cylinder angles... what's different is the length of those
cylinders... V2 sports long cylinders due to 990cc being divided by 2 whereas the V4 sports short cylinders
due to the 990cc being divided up by 4... the shorter the cylinder the more forward weight bias can be
achieved by moving the engine closer to the front contact patch...


Aso... I see.  But then it would be even better if the V-4 was designed with a more narrow cylinder angle, like Aprilia's 65o V-4.  Is that correct?  But then twin counterbalancers are required to reduce vibration.  Counterbalancers add weight and sap power.  How does one compensate for that?
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2006, 09:22:49 AM »
Quote from: Schneegz on December 27, 2006, 03:53:42 AM



Aso... I see.  But then it would be even better if the V-4 was designed with a more narrow cylinder angle, like Aprilia's 65o V-4.  Is that correct?  But then twin counterbalancers are required to reduce vibration.  Counterbalancers add weight and sap power.  How does one compensate for that?



A 65º angle V4 would afford an engineer the option of designing the crankshaft closer to the front
contact patch... but that option (as you point out) will add the weight and the complexity of power
sapping counterbalancers... an engineer would compensate by extracking even more power per given
cc... but then again the 90º competition could easily match that rise and then some... so there are
always trade offs in any given design... I believe the 90º V4 offers an engineer the least amount of
trade offs...

I predict that if Aprilia sticks with a 65º V4... they will face the same problems as their 60º V2... not
enough power to match the 90º competition... because you can't spin counterbalancers and top the
field in an all out HP war...
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2006, 09:40:35 AM »
Quote from: Mr Sunshine on December 27, 2006, 01:41:14 AM



The twin of course.  The MotoGP bike sounds too much like a I-4.   Lol


Come to Laguna Seca Chris... where the MotoGp I4s sound like V4s...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2928884336312290935&q=motogp
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2006, 09:59:39 AM »
I went to the 2005 MotoGP round at Laguna.  The bike I remember the most is the Kawasaki thrapping down pit lane.  That was cool.

Aplejax and I are heading down again this year (2007) but we are going to work at the track during the races.  Not sure what we'll be doing but I'm looking forward to working the corners.  Nothing like picking up multi-million dollar bikes and multi-million dollar riders.   Thumbsup
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2007, 06:23:59 PM »
I love the sound of my ST4S talking through its carbon Ducati Performance cans BUT...

the Desmosedici is my pick as the sickest sounding machine I've ever heard in person.   Thumbsup
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2007, 06:41:56 PM »
The 1098 gets my vote.  Peet's sounds great with the CF Termi cans.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2007, 07:40:51 PM »
The short stroke 750 Paul Smart rode at Vintage Days at Mid Ohio in 2005.

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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2007, 05:20:35 PM »
IMO, my friend's 750 Laguna Seca with open Conti "silencer" was the best sounding Duc I've heard/ridden.
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