Tubeless tire with a tube in it? Safe or not/

[gunz]

I have a friend, First time rider that bought a Honda shadow 750 Tha back tire is bald so he ordered tire and  tube online. Tire says tubeless on the sidewall. He has done some research waiting for the company he bought it from to call him, and everyone says its fine. Not sure myself so I thinght i would post here for general consensus. If they wont make it right without charging him an arm and a leg would it hurt to run it.

[Capirex]

If the tire is tubeless why not run it without the tube?  

[Rincewind]

If the tire is tubeless why not run it without the tube?  

Probably cause the rims are spoked.

Yes, you can run tubes in tubeless tires.  It seems to me there was a thread on this recently, but the search isn't workin for me.

[Rincewind]

Here's the previous thread - http://www.sport-touring.net/forums/index.php/topic,13503.0.html  

[Capirex]

I'm pretty sure I've heard you can seal spoked wheels to run them without the tube.

[bizarro]

Or you can run Pirelli Sport Demons. I love 'em on my Goose and I know the House of Honda guys (locals who ride beautifully maintained early gen VFs and VFRs) are loving them on their bikes. YMMV.

[Scum]

The tire will be fine with the tube. It is probably even stamped "on tube-type wheel use tube" in small print on the sidewall.

[gunz]

Or you can run Pirelli Sport Demons. I love 'em on my Goose and I know the House of Honda guys (locals who ride beautifully maintained early gen VFs and VFRs) are loving them on their bikes. YMMV.

That applies to this thread how? Yip i asked what tires everyone is running pirelli tires and how they liked them. Who cares what tires your running. Maybe you should read the thread before you post next time. I am asking about tubes in tubless tires.

So the general consensus is that its O.k.  Thats cool. i feel better knowing that the people here (that have something intelligent to reply with) think its fine to go ahead. Thansk folks. Keep the rubber side down

[bizarro]

Go fuck yourself asshole. I offered the Pirellis as an alternative to using a tubeless tire on a tubed rim. Take one of your gunz and shove it up your ass fuckwit.

[gunz]

Go fuck yourself asshole. I offered the Pirellis as an alternative to using a tubeless tire on a tubed rim. Take one of your gunz and shove it up your ass fuckwit.

your the asshat that cant read. dont get bent at me for pointing it out. Dumbass.

[jschmidt]

Ahhh, the personal grudge. Get a grip Gunz. You're in a moderated forum now. You have to learn to turn it off and on depending on where you are. And, well, personal grudges are unseemly anyway.

[DigST]

Better watch out, here come the BB's

[jschmidt]

Better watch out, here come the BB's

Post of the week!

[gunz]

Ahhh, the personal grudge. Get a grip Gunz. You're in a moderated forum now. You have to learn to turn it off and on depending on where you are. And, well, personal grudges are unseemly anyway.

So the guy that posted the first profanity towards me is excused somehow?

I only give what I get. If he wouldnt have told me to GFM, i wouldnt have replied so harshly. Civility breeds civility.

And sure with the BBS. Endanger my life and it might not be BBs.

[thatguy]

Damn this is getting just like it was before the big crash.Hijack completed.

[jschmidt]

So the guy that posted the first profanity towards me is excused somehow?

I only give what I get.

You confuse obnoxious with obscene. You started it. As to your second point, maybe you ought to rethink it. Cause its dumb.

[bizarro]

your the asshat that cant read. dont get bent at me for pointing it out. Dumbass.

Fuck you shit heel. I offered an alternative if your friend wanted to a tire that was actually designed for his rim. You're talking to me about civility after jumping on me? Fuck you.

[gunz]

Go fuck yourself asshole. I offered the Pirellis as an alternative to using a tubeless tire on a tubed rim. Take one of your gunz and shove it up your ass fuckwit.

Yip your right

Guess you missed htis.

If your talkng about me posting about his pirellies. Well it was a stupid post in a thread about tubless tires.  Good god , if people want to post how much they like their tires. make theri own dang thread, Not just posting random  garbage that doesnt pertain to anything in that thread.

[bizarro]

And I guess you missed the part where I was providing an alternative to using tubeless tires on tubed rims. It wasn't random garbage. Why are second amendment nuts almost always pricks? Anyhow, enjoy your bbs.

[gunz]

And I guess you missed the part where I was providing an alternative to using tubeless tires on tubed rims. It wasn't random garbage. Why are second amendment nuts almost always pricks? Anyhow, enjoy your bbs.

What the hell does the second ammendment have anything to do with you wanting to brag up your pirellis in a thread that isnt asking anything about tire brands?

Yip, your right, i asked what tire should i replace them with.Again i say

Pay attention. In the future I will type slow so you can keep up

Anyhow Back on topic . Thansk for the advice, I called my friend and told him the good news that the tubless tire would work with his tube and spoke wheels. I think he is working on mounting them now. Thanks all.

[Penforhire]

Ahem, back on topic, if the reason he can't leave it tubeless are spokes in the wheel he really needs to be careful to have the spoke nipples well taped over on the inside.  If there are any sharp edges they can rub on the tube and, well, you know what happens next.

[gunz]

Thetubes came with the new rubber strips for covering the spokes. I think he is in there. We will see if he rides it to work tomorrow

[Orson]

That applies to this thread how? Yip i asked what tires everyone is running pirelli tires and how they liked them. Who cares what tires your running. Maybe you should read the thread before you post next time. I am asking about tubes in tubless tires.

So the general consensus is that its O.k.  Thats cool. i feel better knowing that the people here (that have something intelligent to reply with) think its fine to go ahead. Thansk folks. Keep the rubber side down

sheesh...here's a picture of bizarro's goose with spoked rims.



Just ignore information you don't need rather than jumping down people's throats.

Let's make an effort to get along even if it kills us  

[gamountains]

Cant we just get along?

[Albie]

Isn't running a tube in a tubeless tire kinda like wearing suspenders AND a belt?  

[Tyrroneous]

Only if your pants already have an elastic waistband.  

[Leanintree]

Isn't running a tube in a tubeless tire kinda like wearing suspenders AND a belt?  

Not necessarily. At occasional points in the past, I've had a puncture on an effectively brand new tire that my shop wouldn't repair. Not necessarily because it wouldn't hold, just THEY wouldn't do tire patches/plugs on bike tires. When that happened, I'd just slap a tube in it and be done, no more worry about the nail hole repair. Note, this was on a smaller bike than I currently ride, but I don't see why it would be a problem if you can't afford a new tire (or don't want to replace a good one).

Leanintree

[jschmidt]

Since it got such a good reaction before, let me recommend Dunlop GT501s as a bias ply tube-tubeless performance tire. We're running these on the wife's '79 XS, and they're pretty phenominal.

[stk0308]

I'm pretty sure I've heard you can seal spoked wheels to run them without the tube.

Motard riders have been experimenting with that technology.  Some good results, some snake oil setups.  I wouldn't trust it on the street, and especially on tour.  Better to buy rims intended on running tubeless tires than to try and make an old fashioned spoked rim go tubeless.

[highside]

Yes, you can run tubes in just about anything, in fact it's safe enough that the tire manufactures state as much. Then again, I thought you were unwilling to deviate from the owner's manual? It was written by engineers who clearly know much more about this than anyone here.

I do have to call bullshit on you having a friend though. You certainly haven't shown a single likeable trait since fate shat you into this forum. I can't say that about anyone here, even the people that piss me off on a regular basis.

[Walker]

And I guess you missed the part where I was providing an alternative to using tubeless tires on tubed rims. It wasn't random garbage. Why are second amendment nuts almost always pricks? Anyhow, enjoy your bbs.

Jeeze man, whatever animosity you have with Gunz, you had to go there and insult other people not even involved?  And you're feelings about the Second Ammendment bear upon this thread how?

And so I guess you have something against the rest of the Bill of Rights too?  Accept them all, or accept none of them.

Hey, I may be an ass sometimes, but I'm not a prick  

[bizarro]

Guess you failed reading comprehension. Go back and look for the word 'almost'. Secondly, I've read more of gunz/bandit 1's posts than this one so that's where the 2nd Amendment business comes from. Lastly, you seem pretty sensitive about the 2nd Amendment but I don't have any issues with you, nor do you know what my stance on it is.

[Walker]

Guess you failed reading comprehension. Go back and look for the word 'almost'. Secondly, I've read more of gunz/bandit 1's posts than this one so that's where the 2nd Amendment business comes from. Lastly, you seem pretty sensitive about the 2nd Amendment but I don't have any issues with you, nor do you know what my stance on it is.

Nope, scored top percentile in reading comprehension back in the day... your words were "almost always", which implies just that, the majority.  Since I consider myself to be pro Bill of Rights and pro Second Ammendment, and having been inculcated from birth to be such, I consider myself to be of that majority.  Since you seemed to be painting with a very wide brush then yes I'm a little sensitive there.... but really, this is a topic more suitable for a different forum.

Anyway, I understood your original post about the Pirelli's.... seems to me the Cool Hand Luke quote fits here best....

[Walker]

You certainly haven't shown a single likeable trait since fate shat you into this forum.

 

[bizarro]

Nope, scored top percentile in reading comprehension back in the day... your words were "almost always", which implies just that, the majority.  Since I consider myself to be pro Bill of Rights and pro Second Ammendment, and having been inculcated from birth to be such, I consider myself to be of that majority.  Since you seemed to be painting with a very wide brush then yes I'm a little sensitive there.... but really, this is a topic more suitable for a different forum.

Anyway, I understood your original post about the Pirelli's.... seems to me the Cool Hand Luke quote fits here best....

Fair enough.   With regards the 2nd, just fyi, I'm for people being able to own any fire arm they want, pretty much, but I believe wait periods and background checks are both reasonable and necessary.

[Walker]

Fair enough.   With regards the 2nd, just fyi, I'm for people being able to own any fire arm they want, pretty much, but I believe wait periods and background checks are both reasonable and necessary.

Background check  
Waiting period:    

No reason for it with instant background checks.  To me that is on par with having a waiting period to be approved for a car loan.

However I do think that the background check database needs to be better maintained and populated, i.e. mental health records, etc...

[HipGnosis]

Isn't running a tube in a tubeless tire kinda like wearing suspenders AND a belt?  

Not when they're on a rim that requires a tube.
It's the antitheisis of wearing a belt on pants w/o belt loops.

[HorizonJob]

I don't believe I actually read this whole thread!