Ducati 1098 vs Ford GT

[atadaskew]

The Ford was given a 'sporting' head start...

http://onewheeldrive.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=755&Itemid=1

[Mr. Whippy]

werd.  

[BLARNEY]

 Pwnage



 Tom

[Capirex]

Nice.  Maybe I missed it in the article but where and what is PIR?  I know it can't be Pocono.  

On a somewhat related note, the Ford GT will be a full time competitor next season in the American LeMans series.  I absolutely love that car and it will be cool to finally see it race against Ferrari and Porsche.  

[R Doug]

Is it me, or was that little blurb horribly written?  It had no flow to it at all.

[kevin_stevens]

Nice.  Maybe I missed it in the article but where and what is PIR?  I know it can't be Pocono.  

On a somewhat related note, the Ford GT will be a full time competitor next season in the American LeMans series.  I absolutely love that car and it will be cool to finally see it race against Ferrari and Porsche.  

Thought the GT was discontinued?

KeS

[Capirex]

Thought the GT was discontinued?

They aren't making any more of them but I doubt there are any ALMS rules that require a car to be 'in production'.
It's not actually Ford that is running the car and I don't think any of the ALMS teams actually have 'factory support'*.  

http://www.theracesite.com/index.cfm?template=magazine&mag_id=14514





* Except maybe Corvette?  

[R Doug]

I still have the commercial for the Ford GT on my PC.  If you remember, it was a driver on a closed circuit drifting the car through turns as high speeds.  I watch it about once a month.  

Now I need a video of Polen leaving darkies on a 1098 like he did when he passed the GT in this story.  

[st ryder]

The Brit show "5th Gear" ran a regular Lambo Gallardo and a 999 against the clock on Philips Island a few years ago, 999 wins, and then this year, ran, head to head, ie actually raced each other on the track, don't know which track, a Gallardo Superlegerre against a 1098. The later is *absolutely incredible* to watch but the "good guy" wins, due to the phenomenal acceleration/speed factor, still accelerating on and then passing the Lambo at 150+mph.  . Tried to find the old Youtube links, but apparently it's no longer available. Too bad. Wonder why they didn't use a GSXR1000?  

[Capirex]

I still have the commercial for the Ford GT on my PC.  If you remember, it was a driver on a closed circuit drifting the car through turns as high speeds.  I watch it about once a month.  

This one?    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVPX2ZwlxNs

If you find that Polen video let us know.  

[R Doug]

That's the one!

It actually makes me want to drive a car.  Great ad.

[opus]

Nice.  Maybe I missed it in the article but where and what is PIR?  I know it can't be Pocono.  

On a somewhat related note, the Ford GT will be a full time competitor next season in the American LeMans series.  I absolutely love that car and it will be cool to finally see it race against Ferrari and Porsche.  

Portland International Raceway
Portland, OR

[Capirex]

Portland International Raceway
Portland, OR

Ahso.    

[goodhawk]

Ford did an amazing job with the GT , looks purrrfect.  I've always been fascinated by them, OK that was ' my' guys in high school ' time - LeMans, Chapparals,Turbine Indy Cars,  Lotus-Fords taking over from Offys,  The great Mustang / Camaro / AMC Trans Am  races , rumbling Hemis & 427's in NASCAR . . .
I think maybe 5 years ago, Motorcyclist mag. did a run down Angeles crest with a Viper and GSXR - Viper won, standard real road conditions- sand in corners etc. Least that's how I remember the article.

[atadaskew]

The Viper than lunched it's motor at the end of the test.  So I guess if they decided to run back up the mountain, then it really wasn't the winner..

[Highrider]

Here's the Gallardo vs 1098 link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oz44oGaI4c

[R Doug]

Here's the Gallardo vs 1098 link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oz44oGaI4c

Thanks for the link.

This Ducati didn't do so well.  But then again, the rider wasn't fully tucked and it was a 748, not a 998.

[Bjorn Toulouse]

I still have the commercial for the Ford GT on my PC.  If you remember, it was a driver on a closed circuit drifting the car through turns as high speeds.

I'd give my left nut for a Ford GT and a garage full of tires!


Rex

[baldheadeddork]

I waited a respectful period before bringing this up, but did it occur to Czysz to maybe ride something to challenge the 1098, instead of driving his Ford GT?

[Baz]

An ex client of mine in Calgary had an origional Ford GT-40 (they only made 125 I believe) which I was blessed to get a ride in one day. It was the fastest thing I have ever had my butt cheeks in or on ever.

I would not race his car with any bike I can think of. I would question how skilled the driver of the Ford GT was. I can't believe that a bike can pull more G's around a corner than a GT, nor can I belive it would out accelerate it. I would like to see Michael Schumacher behind the wheel of the GT.

I have ridden a GSX 1000 & R-1 and neither had the straight line punch I was shown in John's GT 40. (his car was geared differently than it would have been on the racetrack however). I believe you would either smoke the back tire off the bike, or send the front wheel to heaven trying to beat one of these in a quarter mile race.

[Dichotomous]

An ex client of mine in Calgary had an origional Ford GT-40 (they only made 125 I believe) which I was blessed to get a ride in one day. It was the fastest thing I have ever had my butt cheeks in or on ever.

I would not race his car with any bike I can think of. I would question how skilled the driver of the Ford GT was. I can't believe that a bike can pull more G's around a corner than a GT, nor can I belive it would out accelerate it. I would like to see Michael Schumacher behind the wheel of the GT.

I have ridden a GSX 1000 & R-1 and neither had the straight line punch I was shown in John's GT 40. (his car was geared differently than it would have been on the racetrack however). I believe you would either smoke the back tire off the bike, or send the front wheel to heaven trying to beat one of these in a quarter mile race.

my civic si FEELS like it pulls more sometimes than my SV650 at full tuck, but it doesnt.  its the torque that you feel and that you are held from behind with a seat instead of actively holding on and with your feet behind you absorbing the pull of inertia.  what are the 1/4mi times for the GT?  a GSXR1000 has a 1/4mi time of less than 10 seconds, beating that in the car world is a whole lot of work

[Capirex]

As Stoddart alludes to, the GT's performance is incredible. For its January 2004 cover story, "Judgment Day!" a Car and Driver magazine test driver drove a Ford GT from 0-60 mph in 3.3 seconds. Car and Driver also recorded a quarter-mile time of 11.6 seconds at 128 mph. In the same test, Ferrari's $193,000 Challenge Stradale took four seconds to reach 60 mph and was 0.8 second and 13 mph slower through the quarter-mile.

http://www.fordgt.net/

[kevin_stevens]

Yes, but I thought that what was being referenced was an ACTUAL Ford classic racing GT40.  Those actually had less power (and less weight) than the Ford GT.  The race car would be highly dependent on gearing, but I still don't think they'd be as fast in a 1/4 as a bike.  120-180mph might be a different matter.

KeS

[atadaskew]

In the right hands, i.e. someone who knows what he is doing, a Ford GT would beat a 1098 on the track.
I recently saw a clip on youtube from one of those English car shows.  They raced a Lambo Gayardo against a 1098 on the track. The rider on the Duc was a current competing Brit road racing ace (sorry I forget his name).  The driver in the car was some slob English journo    Anyway, the bike JUST beat the car on the track (ok the driver cheated a bit with the start) but the point is the Ford is much faster around a track than the Lambo.

[goodhawk]

checking out the link to you tube / GT 40 in post above, there's a GT 40  film  linked that includes  a little of the original Lemans races - sideways out of corners . . . by jkstang, about 7 min total.
great job by Ford.