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« on: December 28, 2006, 02:05:50 PM »

I can’t believe it’s December 28th and I’m able to sneak in a nice little 60 mile ride near the end of the day today.  Since I just acquired the FZ, I couldn’t wait to get out on her.

I had a quick errand to run downtown before heading 20 miles out Rt. 7 towards Kingwood, WV for a quick site inspection for work.  Riding downtown in traffic, I could tell the FZ is wonderful at slow speeds.  The weight feels low on it and it’s one of the easiest bikes I’ve personally maneuvered in tight spaces.  

Once I completed my downtown errand, I headed back past my house and got caught behind a lot of traffic up Rt. 7.  This was OK because it was only 40 degrees at the time and I have new tires to break in.  I took this time to test out just how cruise-worthy it can be.  While following traffic on a twisty Rt. 7 from Morgantown to Kingwood (all up hill), I put the bike in top gear at 35 MPH.  With the tach  hovering around 2K, I was able to accelerate w/o hesitation on the big I4.  There were no EFI issues and though it doesn’t have the pull in top gear as compared to my old ST3 Duc, it was very respectable.  

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Along the way, I was able to confirm the ergos are great for me.  However, for really long rides, the foot pegs could be down an inch.  I don’t think I’ll ever seen aftermarket adjustable ones because the exhaust can would be in the way.  With my arms right in front of me, my feet right below me, and a nice posture any Mom would be proud of, I started thinking how the FZ1 is like a Liter Bike attached to your favorite chair.  The wide bars made sweepers and twisties easy as I moved my body from side to side.  The view is much better for me since I sit up a little more than my previous and current bikes.  In fact, I was able to catch a glimpse of some water falls which I had never seen before off Rt. 7 w/ the leafs off the trees.  

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After my site inspection, I took a nice scenic trip back to the office.  I made sure I covered every type of road I could from nice fast sweepers to tight technical roads which I have ridden, and I even threw in a few miles on slab to see how it is in the wind.  The FZ1 provided great confidence and feel in regards to all types of turns.  The chassis is solid and provides nice feedback.  The turn-in isn’t as sharp as I thought it would be given the angles, but once in a turn, you felt very comfortable.  

Vibration was minimal with more of a buzz in the left peg over the right one.  The bars would buzz when droning along a long stretch at a certain RPM, but hey… it’s a bike!  They do that.

The brakes stop the bike well, but don’t provide the feedback I like.  My old ST3 and current Daytona both have wonderful brakes that would stop you quickly and provide excellent feedback.  The FZ’s brakes don’t feel soft, they just don’t communicate as much.  I locked up the rear tire when trying some emergency stops on it and I didn’t even know I locked it up until I looked back.  But, I could easily come to nice quick stop w/ front brake only and with two fingers on the lever.  So, they don’t suck, but they’re not great either.  

The wind protection is totally acceptable.  For touring, I could see getting a taller windscreen, but for daily rides, it would be fine.  The upper fairing kept the cold air off my upper body and the windscreen put the wind about midway up my facesheild.  Buffeting was minimal.  I have found buffeting is at its max when the wind hits you either low in the helmet or high in the helmet.

In short, I love this bike.  It has an incredibly strong engine, the ergos are perfect for me, the naked look gives it an edge which I like,  and it rails in the turns.  My only plans on additions or changes at this time would be a taller screen I could switch to for LONG trips, heated grips, and hard luggage.  

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 02:31:48 PM »

Don't be afraid to "give it some" during break-in. Engines like hard acceleration and engine braking. No lugging, no long periods at high RPM, no steady RPMs. But don't believe that stupid 6K limit in the owners manual either. I'd use at least 3/4 of the rev range regularly with a few good hard blasts to redline.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 02:39:34 PM »


Don't be afraid to "give it some" during break-in. Engines like hard acceleration and engine braking. No lugging, no long periods at high RPM, no steady RPMs. But don't believe that stupid 6K limit in the owners manual either. I'd use at least 3/4 of the rev range regularly with a few good hard blasts to redline.


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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 02:52:37 PM »

1st post for new site, feels good.

FZ1 =  Drool

Just a theory on turn in..  Maybe because the bars are wider, you have to move the grips through a wider arc, than on on the 675, to turn the front wheel the same amount.  This gives you the perception of a slower turn in.  I know that's the case with my perception of turn in on dirt bikes for instance.

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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 03:37:53 PM »

Great pics!  Wish I had been there.   Thumbsup

Just told my wife I need another FZ....the dogs will be dealing with my snoring tonight  Lol
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2006, 01:50:06 AM »

Man, that bike looks delectable in blue!  :leghump:


Just a theory on turn in..  Maybe because the bars are wider, you have to move the grips through a wider arc, than on on the 675, to turn the front wheel the same amount.  This gives you the perception of a slower turn in.  I know that's the case with my perception of turn in on dirt bikes for instance.


You may have a point there.  The D675 is a featherweight (lightest in its class) with very agressive geometry.  Anything short of a supermoto would feel slow to turn in compared to that.  However, the FZ1 is equipped with a wide rear tire, 190 series if I remember correctly.  Maybe a switch to a 180 would improve turn in?  Shrug
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 07:03:33 PM »


 However, the FZ1 is equipped with a wide rear tire, 190 series if I remember correctly.  Maybe a switch to a 180 would improve turn in?  Shrug


It is a 190 on the 2nd gen FZ1 and yes, a 180 will most likely improve the turn in. My '05 came with 180's and turn in improved significantly when I got rid of the stock BT020's for some Pilot Powers, which I love. Inlove
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2006, 02:13:17 PM »

Well, I had a nice longer ride on the bike today and realized that the tires were the problem for turn-in.  But, it's not the size of the tires... it was the pressure!  The dealer only had 28 lbs of pressure in the damn tires.  Crazy

I checked them this morning and put 39 lbs in the rear and 36 in the front.... MUCH BETTER.    Bigok
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2006, 10:35:01 AM »

Check out the touring set up from Givi.



They even have an engine guard.

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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2006, 03:33:58 PM »

Thanks Schneegz, that's the exact luggage I have in mind.  I found the entire set w/ hardware and tank bag at twistedthrottle.com for just under $950.00.  

I'm going to wait to see if something else catches my eye at the Cleveland bike show.  Though I doubt I will, I just want to see first.

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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2007, 01:24:58 PM »


Thanks Schneegz, that's the exact luggage I have in mind.  I found the entire set w/ hardware and tank bag at twistedthrottle.com for just under $950.00.  

I'm going to wait to see if something else catches my eye at the Cleveland bike show.  Though I doubt I will, I just want to see first.

$950 seems very reasonable, and I really like the look of this luggage set.  I have two bikes on my short list, the FZ1 and the new Tiger.  The FZ1 is less expensive and, so far, has received a lot more support from the aftermarket.  Not to mention that Yamaha has a much more extensive dealer network than Triumph.  Those practical factors may ultimately sell me on the FZ1, unless the Tiger steals my heart.  Inlove  
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2007, 02:06:15 PM »

You'll see it's hard not to love a triple.  I'm glad I didn't ride a Tiger before getting the FZ1.  I have one Triumph already and would love to have had another.  But, my dealer is nearly 100 miles away and I didn't want to coordinate valve checks for two bikes that far away.  

The FZ1 has 25,000 valve checks, was $2,300 less (MSRP), and does have a big dealer support.  But, that 1050 triple in the Tiger....   Drool

I don't think you could go wrong either way.  
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You'll see it's hard not to love a triple.  I'm glad I didn't ride a Tiger before getting the FZ1.  I have one Triumph already and would love to have had another.  But, my dealer is nearly 100 miles away and I didn't want to coordinate valve checks for two bikes that far away.  

The FZ1 has 25,000 valve checks, was $2,300 less (MSRP), and does have a big dealer support.  But, that 1050 triple in the Tiger....   Drool

I don't think you could go wrong either way.


Are you planning any mods?  I really like the look of this Akrapovic.





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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2007, 08:20:46 PM »

I went with the Leo Vince- and so far have been real pleased- When I picked up my 06 in March of last year- only a few folks had anything- Now the aftermarket is finally catching up.

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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2007, 12:21:06 PM »

to me, that's maybe the best lookin in line 4 bike ever.  lottsa fine bikes avail. nowadays.
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2007, 02:28:22 PM »

My buddy that taught me how to ride has an 04 FZ1 in blue, he also got the full fairing kit on his. He absolutely loves the thing. It is a great all purpose bike, thats for sure.
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2007, 09:14:25 AM »

I really like the look of the new FZ1 I'm hoping the Yamaha fixes the engine management problems (needs more low end torque) and upgrades the suspension system (overly harsh).  I want to like this bike, but in its current form I can't.

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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2007, 10:24:00 AM »

Anyone considering a 1st or 2nd generation FZ-1 should look up the FZ-1 Owners' Association Forum.  The wealth of FZ-1 related knowledge collected there can not be overstated.
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2007, 06:50:13 PM »

I like this exhaust:



Comes in black too.  Made by Micron.

I can't help but wonder if it is still rather loud, even with the sound baffle installed.  Without the baffle, it must scream.  Either way it is nice looking and seems to flow well with the shapes of the bike.
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2007, 09:58:09 PM »

That s a nice looking pipe- I want that tail section for my FZ- with no hand rails, it really looks better- The European folks get the cool stuff.
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2007, 06:41:53 AM »

Hi friends!  I'm sooo excited about my new 07' black FZ1.  This is my first sport touring bike I own.  I've been ridden ONLY sport bikes since 1991.  And I've come from all makes and models almost.  Mostly Yamahas and Hondas.  Had Suzukis and Kawasakis also.  But I think this one is it for me.  It's my supreme comforter on the streets.  
The one and only reason for this badboy is I'm getting old, I guess. LOL!!! My friends think I'm weird when I showed up at the nighttime ride gathering and says, " What the Hell are you riding? "  I grinned and smiled," an FZ1???, I answered with a big smile on my face,LOL!!!
Anyways friends, I just want to say hello to all.  and ONE BIG question if any of you  can help answer this:

I love the look of the FZ1 N ( Naked  version ) in Canada or Europe.  Is there by any chance I can switch out the single headlight of theirs for mine.  It's basically the same identical bike down to the very handle bar.  The only modification I would do is switching out MY dual headlight pod for a single headlight pod and take out MY front fairing.  What you guys think? Any ideas where I can get this piece?  
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2007, 09:05:46 AM »

I'd ask about that here:  http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/

It is probably possible to order the parts from dealers in Europe or Canada, but that is likely to be expensive.
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2007, 09:07:32 AM »

You can get the parts- I am working with a Canadian dealer right now for some FZ1 parts for mine- They have a section that goes on Right below the tank, and I am trying to decide about the tail section- I  will email them and ask if it is OK to post their information here
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2007, 08:56:35 PM »

Thanks guys, and esp. RedFZ1.  I am so grateful if you'd be kind to ask them in details about the price to switch out to the single Canadian version FZ1 N, headlight.  I love the FZ1 so much, I am just not liking the dual headlights version here in the U.S of A.   The ONLY modification I would consider doing to this amazing machine is the obvious, the single headlight, and lower the handlebar with the GYTR-kit.  
Oh, that reminds me, please inquire about the lowrise GYTR handlebar kit for me too if it's not too much trouble.  I wish I can find some friend in Canada to help me with all this.  
  I tell you this friends.  The FZ1 is an all around machine.  I've ridden alot of super sports bike and this is just comfortable around town.  To be honest, I wouldn't ride it farther than a 100 miles.  I guess cuz I'm 5'4" and my arms are a little short.  It's a little reach to the bars whereas, I see many riders in the pics with their arms bent touching the handlebars.  It's not too bad,  and the bars are kinda high also, that's why I'm having them lowered just a tad bit.  Compromising the sporty and touring feel of the bike.  The best of both worlds is what I can say about this bike.  

Again, thanks RedFZ1 for your input on my search.  
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2007, 09:26:43 PM »

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You can get the parts- I am working with a Canadian dealer right now for some FZ1 parts for mine- They have a section that goes on Right below the tank, and I am trying to decide about the tail section- I  will email them and ask if it is OK to post their information here


Canada doesn't get the FZ1N either.........Europe, Asia, Africa and Australia are the sources for the naked version parts.  I found a dealer in England, and worked with them to convert my USA tailsection to the FZ1N's.  It was spendy (around $1K w/shipping), but will look very unique here in the States.  Here's a parts list for everything needed to do the job, if anyone is interested:


The USA FZ1/British FZ1N Tail Conversion Kit

PART# - ITEM - QTY - COLOR

1. 2D1-21651-00-P0 Cover, Rear Fender (1) UR SMX Midnight Black
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2D1-21651-00-P1 Cover, Rear Fender (1) UR S3 Silver Tech
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2D1-21651-00-P2 Cover, Rear Fender (1) UR LRYS1 Yellow
2. 2D1-24747-00 Damper, Seat (1)
3. 2D1-2163A-00 Cover, Rear Fender 1 (1)
4. 98902-06012 Screw, Bind (1)
5. 2D1-2117E-00 Bracket, Taillight (1)
6. 2D1-21669-00 Seal (1)
7. 95827-08012 Bolt, Flange (2)
8. 2D1-21261-00 Bracket, Rear Fender (1)
9. 2D1-21611-00 Fender, Rear (1)
10. 2D1-21639-00 Damper 2 (1)
11. 4KN-2836B-10 Tuning Fork Mark (1)
12. 2D1-84736-00 Damper, Tail 1 (1)
13. 2D1-21341-01 Bracket, Seat (1)
14. 5BN-24741-00 Pad, Seat (2)
15. If you want a rear seat:
2D1-24750-00 Tandem Seat Assy. (1)
16. If you want a rear cowl:
2D1-W0771-63-00 Seat Cover (1) SMX Midnight Black
OR
2D1-W0771-61-00 Seat Cover (1) S3 Silver Tech
OR
2D1-W0771-64-00 Seat Cover (1) LRYS1 Yellow

Obviously, if you want to run a seat and a cowl at alternate times – you’ll need to order both. As far as paint matches – you’re on your own. I’m going to live with the Euro Midnight Black & hope it matches my Raven black pretty well. If I missed any parts you need, sorry ‘bout that – but I’ve done my best. I’ll be ordering this setup on Monday, I will let everyone know how it goes, cost-wise. I strongly urge anyone doing this conversion to use Flitwick Motorcycles as a source for the parts. Of all the dealers I contacted, only they responded with what we needed. Here is a link to their site: http://www.flitwickmotorcycles.co.uk/

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