Pilot Road 2 too new for review?

[shah269]

Sorry guys I did a search but didn't find any reviews on   Pilot Road 2
Are they too new or did I run the search incorrectly?

[jude]

You'll not find many reviews...  Have you seen the prices of those hoops?!  

[Lawn Dart]

Yep, far too expensive for us cheap bastards who surf STN.

We'd much rather spend our money on more fruitful farkles!  

[RoadRat]

Well. I'm ordering a set. I haven't seen any reviews, just read the Michelin blurp about how they are dual compound, hard in the middle and soft on the edges. I figure it'll be around $300 for the set. Gonna take a chance on 'em, my Conti SA only went 1500 miles. If I can get 5K out of these I'll be a happy camper.

[ksann]

$335 a set for me from SWMototires

or


$315 for the RoadII rear and a Power front.


The RoadII is $30 more than a Power2CT



ken

[shah269]

Sorry I thought $300 was the average price for tires.
Ok, i'll keep looking. Just don't want to cheap out too much.
I mean it's my life and skin we are talking about here. And I'm hoping equipment will out weigh my stupidity and the 2,000lb GPZ

[TRaGiK]

Sorry I thought $300 was the average price for tires.

I don't think I've ever paid more than $250 for a pair!

$310 for the Pilot Road 2's is just insane! If I KNEW I'd get 10k miles out of a rear (I get ~7k out of Avon Storm rears), and double that out of a front, I'd be willing to try them. I kind of doubt I would though...

[R Doug]

You just reminded me to update a thread I started a while back  where I plan on comparring the mileage and wear on a set of Pilot Power 2CTs and Corsa IIIs.

So far, Corsas have been mounted on the bike.  The 2CTs are just sitting in the garage right now.  

I'm really hoping these tires help cut down on the squaring-off effect.  

[DFH]

You just reminded me to update a thread I started a while back  where I plan on comparring the mileage and wear on a set of Pilot Power 2CTs and Corsa IIIs.

So far, Corsas have been mounted on the bike.  The 2CTs are just sitting in the garage right now.  

I'm really hoping these tires help cut down on the squaring-off effect.  

The thread is about the Pilot ROAD 2CTs...

You can cut down on the squaring-off effect by riding harder around more corners....





 ... and I'm being bitchy 'cos I'm deep in bike envy over yor KTM...

DFH

[DFH]

Sorry guys I did a search but didn't find any reviews on   Pilot Road 2
Are they too new or did I run the search incorrectly?

I have a set of Pilot Road 2's fitted to my bike. About 3000km on them and about 40% worn on the rear. Now pls take into account that a) its high summer in these parts, b) I live 10mins away from an extensive range of hilly and twisty roads, and c) I do not use the bike to commute and avoid dual carriageway's like the plague.

My bike now has 94,000km on the clock. Previous tyres were the original Pilot Roads (multiple sets) and I have tried the Z6 Metzlers twice. I have also fitted BT020's and Avons to this bike, but never more than once. At this wear rate I expect about 7 to 7,500km from the Road 2's, the original Roads were good for 8 to 8,500km, the Z6's struggled to get 5,500km.

The upside is that with the small decline in endurance comes a significant improvements in handling, grip and feel. Compared to the original Roads ( a slow, consistant and measured steering tyre) its like my bike has lost 40kg in weight. Steering is MUCH sharper and more nimble, but with none of the "I'm cornering on a knife's edge" feel I disliked with the Z6's.

As an aside a mate with a BMW R1200R fitted than after the OEM Contis wore out in 6000km and he gushed like an excited schoolgirl  over the Road 2's...slightly discomfortingly for a 49 year old man...  

Bottom line is... big improvement over the original Roads in terms of riding experience, there looks to be a decline in overall endurance but the rear is keeping its shape well. A much better tyre than the Z6 and Continentals and well worth the small premium over the "old skool" ST tyres folks buy just on price.

DFH

[R Doug]

The thread is about the Pilot ROAD 2CTs...

You can cut down on the squaring-off effect by riding harder around more corners....


DFH

    Or I could just ride on infinite curvy roads!  

Yep, I missed the ROAD part.  Anyhoot... I'll continue on w/ my POWER part of the whole thing and report back when  I have some data.  

[Andrew]

I have about 3.5k miles on a with a set of P/R II,
Well the steering/feel is WAY MORE enjoyable than the standard P/Rs, much more easy turn ins. The original P/R always felt like truck tires.
So far only marginal wear, no cupping or chicken stripe yet
I do commute every day 75 miles round trip (almost all HY) On the bright side I get to tear it up when I take the long way home (lots of twisties)

Will I spend the extra $$$ when this set wear out, If I have the spare $$$ for it I sure will  

[DFH]

    Or I could just ride on infinite curvy roads!  

Yep, I missed the ROAD part.  Anyhoot... I'll continue on w/ my POWER part of the whole thing and report back when  I have some data.  

dats kool... now please tell me that your Superduke is NOT the best bike ever built... so I can sleep easy

DFH

[sane_man]

I just put a pair of them on my Busa, about 400 miles ago.

They work great at a B+ pace in the twisties.  My hope is that I can get close to 7k miles out of them.  I get about 5k from the BT014's.

[FJRmgm]

over on the FJR forum, so far most that have them like them - except for initial purchase price.

[shah269]

I went continental.
I'm cheap and they look good.

[HipGnosis]

From everthing I've read to date, the BT021 is a better value for the rear.

I'm VERY happy with Conti Road Attack fronts (3 of em on 2 diff. bikes) and haven't read anything to sway me from them.

[Ant]

I don't think I've ever paid more than $250 for a pair!

$310 for the Pilot Road 2's is just insane! If I KNEW I'd get 10k miles out of a rear (I get ~7k out of Avon Storm rears), and double that out of a front, I'd be willing to try them. I kind of doubt I would though...

You want to come over to the UK I'd kiss the supplier who could sell me a set of tyres for less than £150!! I'm looking at around £120 fitted for a single rear Conti Road Attack! And I've shopped around, thats just how much it costs  

[Baz]

From everthing I've read to date, the BT021 is a better value for the rear.

I'm VERY happy with Conti Road Attack fronts (3 of em on 2 diff. bikes) and haven't read anything to sway me from them.

Michelin has delayed delivery of the 180 rears here since December. The dealer gave a most recent ETA of mid April, so I got impatient & purchased 021's today. The 021's were just short of 100 bucks cheaper for the set.

[popwud]

Pilot road 2 are my next set of tyres.....running pilot roads at the mo......original tyres where bridgestone 020s I got 6300 miles then changed to pilot roads which have done 9000 miles but ready for the pilot road 2s after my novice track day........the pilot roads are more stable in wet and dry with no twitching on corners......prices here for a pair of p/r2s £182 delivered but not fitted.

[throttlemeister]

Michelin has delayed delivery of the 180 rears here since December. The dealer gave a most recent ETA of mid April, so I got impatient & purchased 021's today. The 021's were just short of 100 bucks cheaper for the set.

They also wear twice as fast and are generally a lesser tire compared to the competition than the 020 was when it was new.

[bpg]

Michelin has delayed delivery of the 180 rears here since December. The dealer gave a most recent ETA of mid April, so I got impatient & purchased 021's today. The 021's were just short of 100 bucks cheaper for the set.

I have over 7K miles on a rear BT-021, on a Blackbird.  Might even eek out another 500 or so miles.  Ridiculously good tire - in my experience it's wear, grip, and price differential have knocked the PRII out of consideration.

Frankly, the BT-021 is simply another dual-compound tire that does everything the PRII is purported to do, for $50 less.  (Bridgestone has a long history of dual-compound work)

YMMV, and from what I understand they're only great as a REAR tire on our heavier bikes, the front BT-021 wears out rapidly for some reason.  No matter, I run a Metz M-1 up front and love it (10K miles, grips very well).

[Baz]

It's true, tire threads are like oil threads!

But I will quote a local rider on his 021's. (I would be more than happy with 12,000 kms).

My dealer tells me it was his best selling ST tire in 2007 and has had people make 2nd purchases. Like everyone in the US, we are paying a premium for the Michelins here because of currency exchange, and well like I said, the PR2's can't be had here right now anyway.

Baz, I am running the BT-021's on my 05, Currently I have 12,000 km's on them and they look not too bad. Probably try to run them until just before I take off to Golden CO in July (with any kind of luck) I will probably try another set. I watch my tire pressure fairly close and maintain it at 45/ 43 psi.

[PaulF]

It's true, tire threads are like oil threads!

But I will quote a local rider on his 021's. (I would be more than happy with 12,000 kms).

My dealer tells me it was his best selling ST tire in 2007 and has had people make 2nd purchases. Like everyone in the US, we are paying a premium for the Michelins here because of currency exchange, and well like I said, the PR2's can't be had here right now anyway.


Parts Canada has them listed at $579 per pair.  Your local shop should discount that price by 25% which makes them about $435 a pair for us Canucks

[Rabidsnipe]

Well the steering/feel is WAY MORE enjoyable than the standard P/Rs, much more easy turn ins. The original P/R always felt like truck tires.

Agreed!  I just put a set on my VFR (from Diablo Stradas) I felt like I was going to fall off into the corner.  It was a little alarming at first but once I got the feel for it  

[boris badenov]

I have a set of PR 2 installed right now; have less than 1K on them so it is too early to comment on longevity. Big improvement on handling comparing to original PR that they replaced but somehow I always feel that when replacing old tires with new ones…  

[JoBu]

I'm having one spooned on the rear of my FJR tomorrow.  I'm really curious to see how it handles/holds up.  

Cheers,

Joe

[IvanJ]

I have a set of PRII on my Futura.  After ~1k mi, I love these tires.  Turn in is way fast, and they just seem to hold the line.  I plan on buying a set for my Monster as well.  For me, they are worth the cost.

FWIW, I put a BT-021 rear on my Monster when the stock BT-014 wore out after 6k mi, I do not like it at all.  I've ridden my friend's Monster with PP, and the difference in turn-in is dramatic.  The BT profile seems to be more neutral, while the profile of the Mich provides fast turn-in.  I guess I'm a Michelin man.

[opus]

I've had a pair of PR2's on my 95 VFR for about a month, and haven't they haven't even made one revolution yet!  My bike is sooooooo close to being on the road.  /sigh

I really loved the PR1's on my 04 VFR, though.  So maybe I should have just stuck with them and rode on in ignorant financially-better-off bliss...