CANADA IS DANGEROUS !!!!!!! TERRORISTS ABOUND !!!!!

[Flyer]

Fact is, they both suck.

You're right of course.
If only we had a presumption of guilt until proven innocent on both sides, our borders would be much less porous. Dahmmmm liberals.  

[jimmy]

I certainly never implied US immigration laws were great.  But it is telling that Can's are even looser.  Fact is, they both suck.

I wouldn't have responded to your comments, save the fact that you put them in the "Canada Forum". If "Canada's loose immigration laws" can allow all fashion of miscreants to cross through a guarded border entry-point into the US legally, I must conclude that you literally cry yourself to sleep at night worrying about the tens of thousands of illegals skipping across the border to the south, identity unknown, perhaps hoping to find work in an economy dependant on illegal workers.

[bizarro]

I wouldn't have responded to your comments, save the fact that you put them in the "Canada Forum". If "Canada's loose immigration laws" can allow all fashion of miscreants to cross through a guarded border entry-point into the US legally, I must conclude that you literally cry yourself to sleep at night worrying about the tens of thousands of illegals skipping across the border to the south, identity unknown, perhaps hoping to find work in an economy dependant on illegal workers.

 

[spd2918]

I wouldn't have responded to your comments, save the fact that you put them in the "Canada Forum". If "Canada's loose immigration laws" can allow all fashion of miscreants to cross through a guarded border entry-point into the US legally, I must conclude that you literally cry yourself to sleep at night worrying about the tens of thousands of illegals skipping across the border to the south, identity unknown, perhaps hoping to find work in an economy dependant on illegal workers.

That's quite a leap.

[KillerB]

No need to apologize, it makes for good conversation.
I'll say this from my persective across the fence, the US media lacks good objective reporting be it either by oversight or design. They seem to want to discredit or burn at the stake any who speak out against the establishment. Like an alcoholic that doesn't like to be reminded of his demon so it seems America in general doesn't want to be reminded that it has rot occurring in its goverment in its society and in its land of the free and home of the brave. Leave it to the neighbour to lean over the fence and tell you that you have weeds in your garden. We have plenty of weeds too but our garden isn't at center stage.
Take some time away from FOX and CNN, step back for a second and digest all that's going on, maybe even from your neighbour's persective.

So true.

It's a telling indictment of the US media that the most honest and forthright news show on television is "The Daily Show".  And it's fake news.

[Baz]

There are crazy people everywhere but the essence of what Baz is saying seems to me to revolve around the presumption that the greater part of the responsibility for the 9/11 mess as well as the potential for future intrusions from terrorists who have been in Canada, lies with our immigration policies. Rather I suspect that American foreign policy might have had a teeny tiny bit to do with it. Perhaps it might be closer to the root cause of it. But it's always easier for those responsible to shift the blame and it is a fact that we are an easy target. We try to act friendly toward almost all people even when it is sometimes difficult to do so.  

And the thing is, most people trying to blow up things, do not usually take the painfully slow immigration route. Let's face it, if I wanted to slip into either the US or Canada, and had a pile of cash backing me up, it wouldn't be that hard to get into either country. (drug dealers do it by the hour)
I find it amazing that Governments think every terrorist would have to meet with a boarder guard. How easy would it be to run a few hundred people into the WA coast lets say with small boats off a ship in international waters? It's just on our Coastline, there is a hell of a walk involved after you land.

I can't remember what the last statistics I saw were, but even on the best day, you are only going to catch a small percentage of people trying to cross. So if the Canadian record is 10 people caught for every 100 illegal entries and the U.S. record is 9 (But I think the U.S. record is worse than Canada's because more people attempt to get into the U.S.) Are you doing that much better of a job? It is absolutely impossible to form a impenetrable wall around North America due to it's size.

The current U.S. government wants everyone to believe it's possible, so they have no problem getting funding. But as someone stated in an unrelated post on here once, "Show me a 20 foot wall and I will show you a 25 foot ladder". I just screamed when someone in congress suggested they built a wall on our border. Anyone who has rode along the border in Alberta & BC will also find that suggestion so amusing (Can you say the "Great wall of America") We anticipate completion in the year 2640, at a cost of 140 bazillion dollars.

I have a friend who is in the 2nd year of trying to get his Argentinian wife landed immigrant status. He will argue anyone into a fist fight that it is easy to immigrate to Canada. They have been married & living together for 3.5 years, and still face hearing after hearing.

[Kootenanny]

...Could we tighten everything up? Sure ... but most Canadians will tell you the price of that loss of freedom is too high.

...The fear card does not play well here you must appeal to peoples minds.

Jim's right (as in correct, not right-leaning!)  I'm always slightly amused when Americans shout loudly about their FREEDOM! (see this all the time on various forums), yet they don't seem to realize how much freedom they've lost due to living in fear.  

For example, it's often touted that Americans are more "free" than Canadians because they have the "right to bear arms."  But why do most Americans want to bear arms?  For protection from their fellow Americans!  Doesn't that strike you as a bit...well, ironic?  Lots of Canadians own firearms too, but few store them under their pillows...I've lived all of my 40+ years in Canada, and I'm familiar with firearms (learned to shoot in the military), yet I have never owned a gun, and have never felt any desire to have one in my home.  I don't fear my neighbours--and IMHO, that is "freedom."

[Mike-H]

Jim's right (as in correct, not right-leaning!)  I'm always slightly amused when Americans shout loudly about their FREEDOM! (see this all the time on various forums), yet they don't seem to realize how much freedom they've lost due to living in fear.  

For example, it's often touted that Americans are more "free" than Canadians because they have the "right to bear arms."  But why do most Americans want to bear arms?  For protection from their fellow Americans!  Doesn't that strike you as a bit...well, ironic?  Lots of Canadians own firearms too, but few store them under their pillows...I've lived all of my 40+ years in Canada, and I'm familiar with firearms (learned to shoot in the military), yet I have never owned a gun, and have never felt any desire to have one in my home.  I don't fear my neighbours--and IMHO, that is "freedom."

 

[bizarro]

Jim's right (as in correct, not right-leaning!)  I'm always slightly amused when Americans shout loudly about their FREEDOM! (see this all the time on various forums), yet they don't seem to realize how much freedom they've lost due to living in fear.  

For example, it's often touted that Americans are more "free" than Canadians because they have the "right to bear arms."  But why do most Americans want to bear arms?  For protection from their fellow Americans!  Doesn't that strike you as a bit...well, ironic?  Lots of Canadians own firearms too, but few store them under their pillows...I've lived all of my 40+ years in Canada, and I'm familiar with firearms (learned to shoot in the military), yet I have never owned a gun, and have never felt any desire to have one in my home.  I don't fear my neighbours--and IMHO, that is "freedom."

Used to be that way in the part of Ohio I grew up in. I miss that feeling.

[Mac]

Jim's right (as in correct, not right-leaning!)  I'm always slightly amused when Americans shout loudly about their FREEDOM! (see this all the time on various forums), yet they don't seem to realize how much freedom they've lost due to living in fear.  

For example, it's often touted that Americans are more "free" than Canadians because they have the "right to bear arms."  But why do most Americans want to bear arms?  For protection from their fellow Americans!  Doesn't that strike you as a bit...well, ironic?  Lots of Canadians own firearms too, but few store them under their pillows...I've lived all of my 40+ years in Canada, and I'm familiar with firearms (learned to shoot in the military), yet I have never owned a gun, and have never felt any desire to have one in my home.  I don't fear my neighbours--and IMHO, that is "freedom."

But what is there to protect you and your family when the bears and moose come down from the hills to demand dinner?
 

[Flyer]

But what is there to protect you and your family when the bears and moose come down from the hills to demand dinner?

Tasty, tasty Timbits!

[Mike-H]

Tasty, tasty Timbits!

Yea.....that's why Tim Horton's was started .....besides which every good Canadian owns a hockey stick (guns, we don't need no stinking guns) ....