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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2008, 01:19:29 PM »




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You were part of the above debate, were you? Know for a fact they were going to buy a Stelvio and have evidence they actually have bought a GS because of the ABS availability?  Or are you painting a picture of people you have never met and know nothing about yourself?

 

How do you know its a computer issue?


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I have never met the riders involved, the information comes from the dealer, who I have known for over 20 years.

How do I know it is a computer issue ? Because I know that ABS is already fitted to the Norge, there are no delivery issues from, brembo. The reason for lack of ABS models, I was told, is that they don't sell well on the Italian market, which is 30% of Guzzi sales, so they decided to delay the ABS launch and concentrate on the standard models.

Why a negative report ? Because I love Guzzis and think the Stelvio is going to be a big seller. I think holding back on the ABS version was dumb and will cost them sales. I was also pissed off because I wanted a Stelvio for a summer tour, now it will be 2009 before I get the ABS version. My plans for that year involve flying and borrowing a bike, so it also means I won't get to do a lot of riding on it when I do buy it. When you are informed by Guzzi that there will be an ABS version and base your plans on that, then they change their minds. In the circumstances I have every right to be negative about that decision.

I will do a report when I get the test ride, it was due last Thursday but was cancelled because of registration delays. I don't have the time for a long test ride now for a couple of weeks, I want at least 4 hrs on the bike. The report may or may not be on this forum. If it is a negative report I will put it somewhere else, you don't seem to be able to handle any criticism of Guzzi.

As for your snide comments about my "vast and unique experience" It is long, but hardly unique, in terms of off road riding it is very small.
 Why a simple criticism of Guzzi should cause such an over the top reaction from you, I don't know. Don't you think you may have overreacted just a tad ? Guzzi aren't infallible, nor are they beyond criticism, nor am I some sort of idiot who goes round deliberately slagging off the manufacturer of my own bike for no reason.

 
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2008, 05:16:13 PM »




I have never met the riders involved, the information comes from the dealer, who I have known for over 20 years.


So... I cannot have a little fun with stereotypes to try to raise a smile on the collective Guzzi crowd because I will commit the sin of
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painting a picture of people you have never met and know nothing about.
somehow its OK to commit the same sin to 'dis the business decisions made by the people at Guzzi....    

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How do I know it is a computer issue ? Because I know that ABS is already fitted to the Norge, there are no delivery issues from, brembo. The reason for lack of ABS models, I was told, is that they don't sell well on the Italian market, which is 30% of Guzzi sales, so they decided to delay the ABS launch and concentrate on the standard models.


Who told you? Someone who is close to the decision making and production scheduling process....? Is it not possible that Guzzi, like all other bike builders big and small, builds in batches. Is it not possible that ABS Norge production was completed 6 months ago, that Guzzi have been building 8V Grisos since then. Is it not possible that in that intervening period that the supplier of one of the components of the ABS system cannot supply Guzzi until the second Stelvio batch? Do you know for a fact that your scenario is true? Or did you just cobble together a series of assumptions based on half truths and published them on the 'net to bolster your self importance.

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Why a negative report ? Because I love Guzzis and think the Stelvio is going to be a big seller. I think holding back on the ABS version was dumb and will cost them sales. I was also pissed off because I wanted a Stelvio for a summer tour, now it will be 2009 before I get the ABS version. My plans for that year involve flying and borrowing a bike, so it also means I won't get to do a lot of riding on it when I do buy it. When you are informed by Guzzi that there will be an ABS version and base your plans on that, then they change their minds. In the circumstances I have every right to be negative about that decision.


So let be get this straight... because someone who may or may not have the real information about the delivery schedule Guzzi has for the ABS Stelvio tells you a story that does not dovetail with your summer holiday plans then its time hop on the 'net and tell the world how badly things have turned out.... have a look at the problems Triumph Street Triple 675 buyers in the UK are having. People are waiting 6 to 9 months for delivery after paying a deposit And I get slagged for perpetuating cultural stereotypes.. Lol  

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As for your snide comments about my "vast and unique experience" It is long, but hardly unique, in terms of off road riding it is very small.
... just pointing out the irony of getting into a dick swinging contest about age and experience on a Guzzi list rofl

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I will do a report when I get the test ride, i The report may or may not be on this forum. If it is a negative report I will put it somewhere else, you don't seem to be able to handle any criticism of Guzzi.


Oh get over yourself... honest first hand impressions are always welcome. The rest of the baggage I can do without.



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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2008, 03:49:16 AM »




So... I cannot have a little fun with stereotypes to try to raise a smile on the collective Guzzi crowd because I will commit the sin of  somehow its OK to commit the same sin to 'dis the business decisions made by the people at Guzzi....  

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I will make no further comment on your posts on this issue, it must be very boring for others. You seem to have got your knickers in a twist about something or other, I don't really care what.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2008, 06:05:21 AM »




I will make no further comment on your posts on this issue, it must be very boring for others. You seem to have got your knickers in a twist about something or other, I don't really care what.


Thank you for taking the time to comment on your desire not to comment... and an extra thank you for kicking it all off and engaging us all for days in a dialogue you did not care about... Headscratch

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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2008, 08:45:42 PM »

No ABS and no heated grips,,,, whats up MG? Headscratch
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2008, 09:22:11 PM »

Given you can get heated grips on the Norge and the Breva, you'd think that would be a no brainer for the Stelvio.

Guzzipat - Take a deep breath.  Looking forward to your Stelvio review as it's always fun to read about Guzzi test rides, good, bad, or indifferent.   Cool
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