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« on: November 29, 2006, 06:51:44 AM »

well, I am a noob Headscratch  to winterizing. When living with my parents, I had a heated garage, and started it regularly. Well I am living on my own and dont have a heated garage. What steps should I be doing to properly winterize and protect my 02 Honda CB919?

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2006, 07:13:05 AM »

*fill gas tank and add appropriate amount of stabil...allow engine to run a few min. to get to the carb/injectors
 
*air up your tires to the max on the sidewalls (prevent flat spotting)
 
*remove spark plugs and place a table spoon of marvel mystery oil or simple motor oil into each cylinder. Place a clean rag over the open plug holes and blip the starter a sec. or so to spread the oil inside the cylinders. Replace spark plugs.
 
*remove you battery and bring it inside and hook to a good trickle charger
 
*grease cables/pivot points and lube chain
 
*you may want to put the bike up on a lift if available or move around every couple of weeks to further avoid flat spots.
 
Cover bike if possible (especially if outside)
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2006, 07:50:17 AM »

This is the website I look at for winter storage and maintenance tips: http://www.clarity.net/~adam/winter-storage-content.html
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2006, 09:35:14 AM »

Clean oil in, battery tender on, full tank of stabilized fuel, run some through the system, DON'T start it unless you're going to run it at speed for 30 minutes or so to evaporate the contaminants in the oil.
 
Or go for a 30-45-minute ride once or twice a month. Unless you live in Canada that should be possible, IMO.
 
I go stir-crazy if I can't ride at least that often.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 11:14:23 AM »

thanks for all the suggestions. And yes I do live in Canada, and do go stir crazy when I cannot ride. Crazy
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 11:38:45 AM »

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*remove spark plugs and place a table spoon of marvel mystery oil or simple motor oil into each cylinder. Place a clean rag over the open plug holes and blip the starter a sec. or so to spread the oil inside the cylinders. Replace spark plugs.

Modern high-voltage ignition systems can be destroyed by running them open-loop, so when you get to the "blip the starter" part, either disconnect the coils or put the plugs back on the wires and ground them to the frame.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 02:08:22 PM »

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And yes I do live in Canada, and do go stir crazy when I cannot ride. Crazy

 
Forgive my ignorance,but does it really get so bad that you actually cannot ride ???
 
Or is it a case that you don`t want to subject your bike to the ravages of Winter ??
 
That`s partly why I own so many....I have some purely for leisure and perfect weather which are polished to perfection,and some which are still looked after,but which I`m not paranoid about using on our god-awful salty and crud caked roads.
 
 
P.S. I know it`s been mentioned above,but you`ll do more harm than good by starting ypour bike up and not riding it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2006, 02:20:52 PM »

it deffinetely does get to bad to ride. There have been times I could not get anywhere in my car, let alone a motorcycle. The roads are like hockey rinks. If were possible to get by year round, I would not own a car. Last year I was able to have my bike out a few time sin January, and that was lucky.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2006, 02:30:03 PM »

I have been riding for 25yrs and all I do is start it everyonce and a while during winter. Never had a problem with any of my bikes not even a dead battery.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2006, 02:32:14 PM »

Quote from: wonderings;3353
it deffinetely does get to bad to ride. There have been times I could not get anywhere in my car, let alone a motorcycle. The roads are like hockey rinks. If were possible to get by year round, I would not own a car. Last year I was able to have my bike out a few time sin January, and that was lucky.

 
Wow...I can`t ever remember a time worse than when we had about a foot of snow for a day here.
 
Our roads are terrible for about three months though,because my local council uses rock salt grit on the roads and when the conditions are damp,then dry out,every vehicle is covered in a grey salty layer.
I`ve known bike parts to corrode overnight...hence my 'winter bikes'.
In some more rural areas they use a mix of rock salt and sugar beet which is terrible to try and wash off,as well as being very slippy in the wet.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2006, 02:36:39 PM »

This is what I do. But it is with the intention that I am going to ride at least a couple days a month during the winter.

1. Change oil
2. Put bike on center stand
3. Put mat under front tire
4. Fill with gas
5. Stabilizer in gas tank
6. Trickle charger
7. Run bike once a month around 20 min if not riding it.
8. Disinfectant in bags
9. Other maintenance if necessary (optional)

I really don't care about filling tires with air, maybe it just me but flat spotting occurs if riding tires over inflated. Riding bicycles taught me to deflate tires for storage but they have tubes. Shrug
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2006, 02:47:09 PM »

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I have been riding for 25yrs and all I do is start it everyonce and a while during winter. Never had a problem with any of my bikes not even a dead battery.



That's what I do... I run them HOT so the fan comes on, just to get things circulating nicely.

Oh... and use an optimate on trickle to keep the battary in tip-top.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2006, 03:51:03 PM »

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it deffinetely does get to bad to ride. There have been times I could not get anywhere in my car, let alone a motorcycle. The roads are like hockey rinks. If were possible to get by year round, I would not own a car.
Here's a pal of mine from Alaska... he runs studs in the winter. Note the temp. No, that's not Celsius.
 

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2006, 03:54:15 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2006, 05:05:09 PM »

Quote from: wonderings;3055
thanks for all the suggestions. And yes I do live in Canada, and do go stir crazy when I cannot ride. Crazy

Depending on where you live,  I'd also make sure the antifreeze in the bike is up to it.   Mine's rated to -40.
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2006, 05:09:39 PM »

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I have been riding for 25yrs and all I do is start it everyonce and a while during winter. Never had a problem with any of my bikes not even a dead battery.


Yes,  but you have the mighty XX.    I left mine in an unheated garage, no stabilizer, not trickle feed,  nothing but fresh oil.  Didn't touch it Nov to April.  Temps went as low as -30 C  (about 20 below F) .     Put the key in, tried it twice and it started.    I was impressed,  but I'd not recommend it.  Usually I remove the battery, and add fuel stabilizer.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2006, 06:04:03 PM »

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Note the temp. No, that's not Celsius.

 
You speakee foreign lingo now.........
so what is it in Celcius then ????Shrug
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2006, 06:17:15 PM »

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so what is it in Celcius then ????Shrug
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2006, 06:34:57 PM »

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Forgive my ignorance,but does it really get so bad that you actually cannot ride ???

I live here:http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/RedBeem/407.jpg
 
Riding is not recommended at this time.
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2006, 07:38:29 PM »

Hmmmm, lets see, we had a windchill factor of -42 degrees celcius yesterday. (-40 C & -40 F are identicle by the way). You can (I am not exagerating here) skate on the roads in Edmonton right now. Even driving my 4x4, is a challenge, and people here are used to driving on ice & snow.
 
Any exposed flesh will freeze in 30 seconds at that temp. People loose fingers and toes here all the time due to frostbite (frozen flesh) Still feel like riding? People have actually died here when their cars broke down & they try walking for help. I would give the toughest man or woman about two blocks before they went screaming into a warm building.
 
I had my Seattle boss visit here a few years back when the windchill factor hit -67 (It was his 1st time in really cold weather) He descibed the effect of that sort of cold, as having your testicles assend to your neck. It also leaves you litterally breathless. He never comes to visit in the winter anymore!
 
 
Temperature Conversion Chart

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