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« on: May 29, 2008, 03:08:25 PM »

So I have a 2006 800ss that has maybe 3000 miles on it.  Perfect shape, looks like new.  Always taken care of, parked in a closed garage in SoCal with a full tank of gas.
Bike starts to run badly, like a fuel starvation problem.  Lo and behold the gas tank is merrily rusting away from the inside clogging the fuel filter, resulting in the fuel starvation problem.
Take the bike to the shop, Ducati will cover the gas tank under warranty, right?  Wrong.  Ducati has refused my warranty coverage claiming the damage is due to "environmental conditions".  The gas tank is covered under the emissions warranty (that every bike in the USA has) which is in addition to the standard bike warranty.  This warranty is for 5 years from the purchase of the bike or 18,641 miles, whichever comes first.  It's all in the owner's manual.  Within that it also states limitations to this warranty.  "Environmental conditions" are not mentioned.
This is so bogus and I am furious.  I have older bikes (and an older Ducati) sitting in the garage right next to the 800ss, they are all treated the same and have no rust in the tank issues.
I feel that basically Ducati NA is treating the warranty that it provides in a cavalier manner, not in the intention of the contract.
Buyer beware.  Your Ducati warranty may be worthless.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 03:13:16 PM »

Uh, did you try a different dealer?  If it's in writing, it's in writing.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 03:17:39 PM »

+1.  Also, DNA is in your neck of the woods, call them.  They have always been VERY responsive whenever I've called--I suspect it's the dealer, not DNA.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 03:23:20 PM »

I've had friends for whom DNA has stepped to the plate with a little prodding by a willing dealer.  Worth the extra effort.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 03:29:59 PM »

Something sounds fishy to me. Take it to a different dealer. I know that my local dealer stuck up for me on numerous occasions and got them to warranty items. I think it's your dealer that is sucking.

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 03:35:48 PM »

No, this is direct from Ducati NA customer service, it is not the dealer.  They first claimed that the rust was due to "environmental damage" so I asked (I was on the phone with them) where in the emissions warranty does that state that that is their escape clause.  They could not give me a response as it is not part of the warranty limitation.  So it was basically a denial just to deny coverage.  They then came back and said that it's not a warranty issue as it does not affect emissions (screw that it blocks the fuel filter and prevents the bike from running) as there is no fuel leak.  I mentioned that there pretty soon will be a fuel leak once the rust perforates the tank.  Then there also will be a fire hazard.
Next day I got a form letter from Ducati NA in Cupertino stating that my warranty claim is denied and in their mind the case is closed.

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 03:45:45 PM »

You should be. That is a load of crap. I was really lucky in my dealing with DNA and their warranty support. Much luckier than I was with the bike.

I don't know what your recourse is but tanks shouldn't run you that much on E-bay.

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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 04:17:07 PM »

I know they (he) is not official, but can Motoservizio help you out?  Maybe he knows somebody inside DNA.

Good luck.  Sorry to hear.  As a consolation, at least you have bikes to ride.
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 04:32:54 PM »

I go to Scott at Motoservizio for all my servicing needs.  He is fantastic.  I didn't use him for this as it was a warranty issue....
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 04:35:48 PM »

Wow, that sucks. I feel for you, it’s hard to like the bike when you start hating the company. I was also dealing here with 'the best dealer and the best mechanic’ and to this day no one can believe why I had so many problems with them when everyone else loves them. I also brought my ST3 three times for one problem and told them what to check and they did everything else before they did what I was telling them to do. I did end up having some warranty work done to my bike but I never dealt with  DNA, so I can’t comment on them.  

As for the super sport tank. They are very expensive.

When the same shitty dealer scratched up my 900SS tank while doing a valve service, I looked for a used one but found none. They wouldn’t replace the scratched one with a new ones and ended up painting it.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 05:34:17 PM »

That's weird that the tank would rust that bad in a coupla years.  Wonder what caused it?
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 05:40:25 PM »


That's weird that the tank would rust that bad in a coupla years.  Wonder what caused it?


Seeing that the tank in my 2003 St4s is fine, I'd say substandard materials/construction.  Ya know, something that would be covered by the warranty.  F-ers.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 05:50:53 PM »

Time for a lawyer perhaps?

Sorry about your warranty problems.  I keep my fingers crossed with my Buell as I've heard stories before.
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 06:00:28 PM »


As for the super sport tank. They are very expensive.


Not really. Look on ebay and ducati.ms and craigslist. You might have to paint it but that is still cheaper than a brand new tank.

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2008, 06:48:29 PM »




Not really. Look on ebay and ducati.ms and craigslist. You might have to paint it but that is still cheaper than a brand new tank.

james

The tanks that I have seen for sale are in the $450 to $500 range and damaged.  That is on the outside, who knows what the inside looks like no matter what the seller claims.
Worse case scenario I will try to chemically repair my tank as it looks brand spankin' new from the outside.
This reminds me of the red neck comedy tour:
"You think Ducati will honour your warranty?  Here's yer number..."
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2008, 06:56:04 PM »


That's weird that the tank would rust that bad in a coupla years.  Wonder what caused it?


The environment.  Duh.
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2008, 07:51:08 PM »

clearly sounds like you've been had ...


Re: How good is your warranty? Ducati NA warranty sucks.


Fortunately ... pleased with the Yamaha Extended Warranty on the FJR,
'course part of that might be the dealer in Prosser, WA.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2008, 07:58:46 PM »

What really sucks about Ducati North America is that they changed their story once I disclaimed their position.  They first stated to me, on the phone, that the warranty claim was being rejected because the damage was due to environmental damage.  When I then showed them that no where in the warranty documentation was "environmental damage" listed as a limitation to the warranty, they then changed their tune and stated that the tank would not be covered because rust was not considered as effecting emissions.  Even though the tank is listed as part of the emissions equipment and that an eventual rust perforation would cause an emissions problem.
Basically they arbitrarily decided to refuse warranty coverage.  A-holes.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2008, 07:59:46 PM »


clearly sounds like you've been had ...



Fortunately ... pleased with the Yamaha Extended Warranty on the FJR,
'course part of that might be the dealer in Prosser, WA.


have you needed warranty work, and if so what?
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2008, 08:15:59 PM »


Time for a lawyer perhaps?



 The threat of legal action looks to be a viable option in this case. Who knows maybe if you become a big enough pain in their ass they might change their mind about replacing that tank.
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