Anyone got a lead on an Red 07 Norge?

[prshguy]

After much searching, reading and mental gymnastics, I want a Norge,    but, it's got to be RED.  So far I've found 3 used silver ones but nary a red one in sight.  Anyone out there have a lead on a used one, maybe thinking about selling for whatever reason or maybe know of a smokin' deal on a leftover?

I've called 7-8 CA dealers, only one has indicated he'll consider an offer on a new red one but even if he comes down, I'm still looking at around $13k and that is really pushing the budget too far.  So anyone know a friend, neighbor or fellow rider thinking about selling?

Thanks,
Roger

[radlefty]

Check out www.motointernational.com  in Seatle. They can't list the price on the web anymore because of Guzzi corporate policy, but they had 07's listed for $11,900 before setup, which I would consider a great deal, especially since they are considered one of the best Guzzi dealers in the country.
Speakers in Ohio(www.speakers-cycles.com) also has 2 07 red Norges listed. I purchased my Norge from Speakers & was very pleased with the service, but Moto International is much closer to you so I would call them. I looked for a long time before buying mine & never came across any used red ones, only silver. No disrespect to the silver Norge owners, but if it's Italian it has to be Red. Besides, chicks dig the red  

[kendenton]

The red is nice, but have you seen it in black?  

[prshguy]

The red is nice, but have you seen it in black?  

No, haven't seen the black, but for me it's just got to be red.  

[prshguy]

Just sent MI an email, so we'll see what the "real" price is.  

[kendenton]

Just sent MI an email, so we'll see what the "real" price is.  

Be sure to post up!

[atadaskew]

Make sure that if you buy the bike out of state, it is CA legal.  If not you will not be able to get it registered (unless it has more than 7500 miles on it).

[Jetboy]

Ton Up in Phoenix has a red one on their showroom floor and another silver one at the warehouse.  Both leftover 07's.

[Spectreman]

There's a new multi-dealership that recently opened in Pembroke Pines, FLA; they sell Kawi's, M-G's & Aprillias. I was there 2 weeks back & they had a good stock of M-G's on the floor, several Norge's included. If memory serves me correctly, they had several colors available. Might want to check out their site & give them a call:  http://pineskawasaki.com/Default.asp
Lee

[prshguy]

Thanks for all the input and help!  According to several people, all the Norges are 50-state legal so should be good in that respect.  

I'd prefer to stay west of the Rockies for this purchase, don't mind a fly-ride home deal but can't afford too much vacation time.  Is this fun or what.  

[prshguy]

Ton Up in Phoenix has a red one on their showroom floor and another silver one at the warehouse.  Both leftover 07's.

Thanks, will check it out!  

Just read thread on GuzziTech talking about the lowers that are cracking, is this pretty common?  

[atadaskew]

Thanks for all the input and help!  According to several people, all the Norges are 50-state legal so should be good in that respect.  

Easy way to confirm this is to have someone who owns a Norge that bought it in a state other than CA to look at the emmisions sticker.  If it includes CA, then they are 50 state legal.

[prshguy]

Wouldn't that be too easy?  

[prshguy]

Well, had a lead on a used red one but seller decided to keep it instead so although disapointed, I figure it speaks well for the bike, so the search continues.  

Did find a demo with 400 miles on it but not sure how I feel about buying one, kinda prefer to break it in my way plus it was only $300 less than I had found a new one for.

 

[Orson]

Did find a demo with 400 miles on it but not sure how I feel about buying one, kinda prefer to break it in my way plus it was only $300 less than I had found a new one for.

Some say Guzzis are slow to break in...at least 30,000 miles  

[prshguy]

Some say Guzzis are slow to break in...at least 30,000 miles  

 

[Orson]

I noticed with just over 40,000 miles, the sweet spot on my V11 has gone from 3750 rpm to about 4900 rpm...so maybe there's some truth to that bit of folklore  

[prshguy]

On another note, activity on this board seems light, are most of the Guzzi peeps hanging around Wild Goose?

[Orson]

On another note, activity on this board seems light, are most of the Guzzi peeps hanging around Wild Goose?

I've never been to Wild Goose.

their pretty friendly and helpful over on v11lemans.com

there's a new one called squadra guzzista or something.

[prshguy]

I've never been to Wild Goose.

their pretty friendly and helpful over on v11lemans.com

there's a new one called squadra guzzista or something.

Been to v11/lemans, and they do seem nice but was curious if the Norge folks spend much time there since that is my focus right now, trying to learn all I can.

[cmgies]

Try Guzzitech.  http://forum.guzzitech.com/index.php.  Being a newish (5300 miles) Norge owner, I hang out on all three: here, Wild Goose and Guzzitech.

Michael

'07 Norge Red

[prshguy]

Try Guzzitech.  http://forum.guzzitech.com/index.php.  Being a newish (5300 miles) Norge owner, I hang out on all three: here, Wild Goose and Guzzitech.

Michael

'07 Norge Red

Thanks.  

[Jetboy]

Agree with Michael on the forums.  As far as the lowers I think it is more related to install and removal of the panels.  I've had no issues with anything in 12,000 miles.  Well one thing.  I had the bumper for the centerstand cut down a bit further cause the stand was dragging in the really tight stuff at speed.  Cutting down the rubber bumper stop fixed that.

[thekiwiguy]

I just ordered a silver Norge from Moto International. I pick it up on Saturday! They had a red seat on it, from a 1200s, and i told them to keep it on. It looks sweet with a red seat and silver body. I got a GREAT deal on it $11999! I am curious about the reported issues with center stand dragging. Is this common?

[atadaskew]

Thousand Oaks Moto Guzzi (California) are selling red 07 Norges for $10990.  Silver too.

http://www.vespato.com/pre_owned_list.asp

[cmgies]

I just ordered a silver Norge from Moto International. I pick it up on Saturday! They had a red seat on it, from a 1200s, and i told them to keep it on. It looks sweet with a red seat and silver body. I got a GREAT deal on it $11999! I am curious about the reported issues with center stand dragging. Is this common?

I saw this bike there when I got my 6K service done.  I agree.  It looks really great with that red seat.  Congratulations!

Michael
'07 Red Norge

[prshguy]

Thousand Oaks Moto Guzzi (California) are selling red 07 Norges for $10990.  Silver too.

http://www.vespato.com/pre_owned_list.asp

What is their reputation like regarding proper set-up?  I test rode a Norge at a local dealer and it was obvious from the way it ran and was assembled that is was poorly done.  Came away unimpressed.  Since I would be buying from out of the area, I won't be able to go back if there are issues.

[Jetboy]

I just ordered a silver Norge from Moto International. I pick it up on Saturday! They had a red seat on it, from a 1200s, and i told them to keep it on. It looks sweet with a red seat and silver body. I got a GREAT deal on it $11999! I am curious about the reported issues with center stand dragging. Is this common?

Congrats on the new ride.  The Norge is capable of excellent handling so dragging the center stand is pretty easy to do.  Firm up the rear preload and shave down the rubber bump stop for the centerstand and you should be good to go.

[atadaskew]

What is their reputation like regarding proper set-up?  

Umm, my experience with them has been horrible but maybe things have changed...
A couple of years ago my g/f took a test ride on an Aprilia Mojito scooter that they had.  While she was on the ride, the owner of the shop bad mouthed my local LA Vespa dealer saying how shoddy their work was.  Well.. next thing I see is my g/f walking up the street, sans scooter.  It had broken down.  Turns out the shop monkey had no properly attached the spark plug cap and it had come loose...

[prshguy]

Well, it looks like I've found my bike!    It's an 07, red of course, with 2600 miles, stock and unmolested.  Talked with the owner, sounds to be very well taken care of, service is up to date and is just what I'm looking for.  Going to do a fly and ride on Saturday.  Wish me luck, going from San Juan Capistrano back up to Sacramento.  

[atadaskew]

Wow, good luck and have fun!  Did the PO say the engine was smooth?  Or can you back out of the deal if you no likey?

[prshguy]

Forgot to raise that question  , was more concerned that it didn't surge and was assured it didn't.  He used to ride an RT1150 like me and knew what I was worried about.  I guess I could walk away if it turned out to be a turkey.  

[atadaskew]

Well, hopefully it will work out.  Why is he selling so soon?
I hope you are going to take your time riding back and pick some nic e roads instead of slabbing it.
Sometime one forgets (in the excitement) to do some basic things like check tyre pressures, oil level etc before you leave...

[sagerat]

Congrats!  Those Norges are sweet-looking and I'll bet you'll be entranced by the Guzzi V-twin.  You going to ride up PCH to enjoy your new best friend or just drone along I-5 (or The Five as my Cali buddies call their roads.  Weird to hear them move up to Orygun and call our main hwy The 97 when we all call U.S. 97.

Enjoy the Norge.

[prshguy]

Well, hopefully it will work out.  Why is he selling so soon?
I hope you are going to take your time riding back and pick some nic e roads instead of slabbing it.
Sometime one forgets (in the excitement) to do some basic things like check tyre pressures, oil level etc before you leave...

His story is that his he has a bad back and cannot get used to the Norge's position.  How do you ever really know what someone's reasons are though.    I know some bikes I've had in the past caused me pain no matter what I tried so it's plausible.

I've been debating that exact question about scenic vs slabbing it.  My riding buddy is also encouraging me to take a scenic route back but part of me wants to get it home quickly and give it a good once over before "playing" on it.  

Thanks for the reminder to check things over before heading out, I'll add a tire guage to my little travel kit.  What tire pressures seem to be best for this bike?

[c_galardi]

Thanks for the reminder to check things over before heading out, I'll add a tire guage to my little travel kit.  What tire pressures seem to be best for this bike?

On my similar Breva 1100 I run 34-36 psi front, 38-40 psi rear.

[prshguy]

On my similar Breva 1100 I run 34-36 psi front, 38-40 psi rear.

Okay, thanks. Is this the recommened/standard pressure or what you've found suits the bike/load?

[sagerat]

36/42 on my Breva; tried not to run 18/20 as my buddy did when he rode a new to him Triumph T-Bird back to Bend.    What's truly a kick in the pants is we both knew better and both had tire gauges with us.

I say take the scenic as there's no better to learn a bike then riding curves.  You don't have to drag pegs or centerstand prongs to just have an enjoyable ride.

[atadaskew]

I've been debating that exact question about scenic vs slabbing it.  My riding buddy is also encouraging me to take a scenic route back but part of me wants to get it home quickly and give it a good once over before "playing" on it.  

Dood.  Take the scenic route.  A new Guzzi, the coast highway.  You'll learn far more about your bike on that ride than slabbing it. Plus that's what that bike is designed for!
Just check your oil, check your tyres and you'll be fine.  Remember to pack a camera for those scenic shots of your bike and the Pacific Ocean behind it!
September is the perfect time of year for this ride...

[Baron Samedi]

Just saw this. I'll be test riding a Norge and a V7 Classic on Saturday...

[c_galardi]

Okay, thanks. Is this the recommened/standard pressure or what you've found suits the bike/load?

I THINK recommended is 36/40.  They quote it as 2.5 ATM front and 2.8 ATM rear as a solo rider.

[tpfaff100]

There is a red Norge for sale on the MGNOC site.

Thomas

[prshguy]

There is a red Norge for sale on the MGNOC site.

Thomas

Thanks for the heads up.  Found one this week here on the left coast otherwise would have likely bought that one.  It was on ebay last week and with shipping and not being able to see it first I was reluctant to pursue it.

[prshguy]

Just saw this. I'll be test riding a Norge and a V7 Classic on Saturday...

So, what did you think?

Made it home safely with my new toy this Saturday.   Started to go over to the coast but traffic was terrible.  After being stuck on 101 for over an hour I gave up and headed up Hwy 33 thru Ojai.  What a great road, bunch of twisties gave me my first chance to see how the bike really handles.  Played with the rear rebound just a little and then it was great!!    For the next 3 hours I was treated to curves, hairpins and straights.  Had to slab-it the rest of the way on I-5 but for those 3 hours I had a blast and can tell this bike is going to be a treat.  Taking a 3-day ride on it in a couple of weeks, can't wait!  

[atadaskew]

Congrats!  So does this one run smoother than the others that you didn't like?

[Orson]

 

[Baron Samedi]

So, what did you think?

Made it home safely with my new toy this Saturday.   Started to go over to the coast but traffic was terrible.  After being stuck on 101 for over an hour I gave up and headed up Hwy 33 thru Ojai.  What a great road, bunch of twisties gave me my first chance to see how the bike really handles.  Played with the rear rebound just a little and then it was great!!    For the next 3 hours I was treated to curves, hairpins and straights.  Had to slab-it the rest of the way on I-5 but for those 3 hours I had a blast and can tell this bike is going to be a treat.  Taking a 3-day ride on it in a couple of weeks, can't wait!  

A disc lock interface feck up stopped me testing...but soon!

[sagerat]

Scrape the centerstand or had the lower fairings crack from the heat, yet?  

Glad you are loving the Norge, they do seem like the next great sport-tourer.  They've had a few glitches (the fairing cracks, there's a recall out on the headlight wiring) but the three people I've talked to who actually have them love the bejabbers out of their Nor-gays (I was told the bike does not rhyme with forge.  They their Norges oodles of cross-country miles.

Hope you have lots and lots of happy tours and don't forget to post pics.  The ups and downs I've had with my Breva have surprisingly not stopped me from looking at a Norge with lusty fingers reaching for my wallet.  Luckily, Ural Ballast Babe is also our Finance Minister or else we'd have a garage full of motorcycles and no retirement monies.  

[prshguy]

Congrats!  So does this one run smoother than the others that you didn't like?

Don't have much to compare I'm afraid.  Only other one I test rode was for 10 minutes at the local dealer that didn't seem well prepped.  It's not a smooth as I would like, but not bad enough to put me off.  My last v-twin was an ST3 Duck that was very smooth at freeway speeds. I'll be checking it over in the next few weeks and check for TB sync, I think it might be off just a hair.

Sagerat, how do I post pics?      

[sagerat]

When you post down at the bottom there's a section marked "Additional Options" on the lower left.

Click and you'll get a menu with a Browse button.  From that go to where you file your pics on your computer and selct the pic you want posted.  There's a size requirement, so you may have to resize your pics.

Hey, if I can do it, any one can.  

[kendenton]

By the way, you can remove the lower fairing if you like.  I think it improves the looks of the bike.

[prshguy]

By the way, you can remove the lower fairing if you like.  I think it improves the looks of the bike.

I think I agree with you.  Took the pieces off this week and have been looking at it each night  .  Going back and forth but I think it's cleaner without them.  Thought about adding a Breva chin spoiler and front fender since the fender is all red on the Breva or Sport, can't remember at this moment.  Have seen varied opinions on whether or not it makes difference to perceived heat reflection or better cooling. 

[Orson]

Yah...it's a shame to cover up that big lump of an engine  

[kendenton]

If you'd like to lower the footpegs a bit, this is a trick setup:



Order them from here: (worst website EVAH)

http://www.motointernational.com/main.htm

[atadaskew]

It does look better with out the lower fairing. Huh.

[kendenton]

It does look better with out the lower fairing. Huh.

Yup, that bottom section is too sharp/angular IMHO.

[prshguy]

If you'd like to lower the footpegs a bit, this is a trick setup:



Order them from here: (worst website EVAH)

http://www.motointernational.com/main.htm

Those look very sanitary, mind if I ask the cost and how much ground clearance do you loose?

[kendenton]

Those look very sanitary, mind if I ask the cost and how much ground clearance do you loose?

Yes, they do look great.  I came across them while thinking about getting a Norge - the highish pegs were the only ergonomic thing I didn't like.  I can't tell you about the cornering clearance, but from what I've read the centerstand is going to touch down first anyway.  Pretty sure I read about them on wildguzzi.com but I can't find the post....

[prshguy]

Which chin spoiler is that?