Givi caes too wide?

[138742]

The Give cases that I am looking at are the e36, e45, or the e360. I don't want a trunk. The Ace' has wide hips on the back and I would have 8 inches or more on either side past the outside of the my leg when saddled up. So I was wondering if anyone had any insight to the effects of having barn doors on the sides of your ride. Gas mileage, twisties, cumbersome?

I was also thinking about the Pelican 1550's. 35 liters a box, bombproof, lifetime guarantee, lockable, very cheap ($90 a box), and slim (less than 8 inches.) Although how bad would that look on a street bike? I am thinking it might work. But I am very optimistic and things look better in my head.

I am torn between the two. If Givi made a slimmer box I would not be posting this, but then again Givi has years of experience and feedback and make them that wide for a reason. I took the tape to the bike and almost crapped myself when I saw how much they will stick out. Maybe my mental imagines of parachutes on the sides may be a little far fetched?  

I have been thinking about this for a while, but I have to order something very soon as I am leaving for the 4,000 mile trip back to school in 3 weeks! Plus I have to fab up and weld the mounts as no one makes any racks for the Ace so the sooner the better. Any thoughts would be wonderful!

Thanks in advance.  

[chornbe]

The Give cases that I am looking at are the e36, e45, or the e360. I don't want a trunk. The Ace' has wide hips on the back and I would have 8 inches or more on either side past the outside of the my leg when saddled up. So I was wondering if anyone had any insight to the effects of having barn doors on the sides of your ride. Gas mileage, twisties, cumbersome?

I had a pair of E41s on my CBR600 for a while. Aside from looking like giant retarded Mickey Mouse ears, they definitely caused some "interesting" issues at speed with how the air wrapped around them. The weight was fine, but the bike definitely let you know they were on there in the wind. It would hunt and wander a bit and had a mind of its own when you let go of the bars. But I guess that's to be expected when you put pontoons onto a ~350lb bike.  

If I had to do it over again, I'd go with a trunk and E21s, or just the E36s, learn to pack lighter and call it done.

http://motorcyclemanifesto.blogspot.com/2007/10/touring-cbr-unveiled.html

[ST-DocLizard1]

E 36 times 3.

Doc

[MadMax96]

Who you callin wide?    

The E41s are whoppers,  but they hold a ton and the top access door is the shiznit.  My mileage sucks when I'm fully loaded...  but the bike isn't the only thing that could afford to loose a little weight - not like my Bandit was ever considered light in the first place.

[DredheadV2.0]

Who you callin wide?    

The E41s are whoppers,  but they hold a ton and the top access door is the shiznit.  My mileage sucks when I'm fully loaded...  but the bike isn't the only thing that could afford to loose a little weight - not like my Bandit was ever considered light in the first place.

That looks hauntingly familiar...

except I went with the SW-Motech racks instead of the Givis.  This has the advantage of being able to quickly remove the racks if I don't want it to look like a bagger, but the disadvantage is the racks set the bags out another inch or two, giving it the Mickey Mouse look in spades.  I love the way the E41's look on the Bandit from the side, though.  And the access doors own - I love them.

If I had it to do over... I'd probably still go with the E41's.

[spinalator]

[MadMax96]

That looks hauntingly familiar...

except I went with the SW-Motech racks instead of the Givis.  This has the advantage of being able to quickly remove the racks if I don't want it to look like a bagger, but the disadvantage is the racks set the bags out another inch or two, giving it the Mickey Mouse look in spades.  I love the way the E41's look on the Bandit from the side, though.  And the access doors own - I love them.

If I had it to do over... I'd probably still go with the E41's.

I don't think SW Motech makes racks for the 1G Bandit.  The reason I went with the Givi tubulars anyway is because I had the Givi monorack first (top case only).  The side tubular racks are able to be fitted without interferring w/ the monorack.  I usually run w/ the monorack only 95% of the time and only fit the side racks for trips.  But with this setup I can run any combo - trunk only/side cases only/all three together/

This side view is pretty deceiving how big these suckers are:

[Rincewind]

This is a timely thread for me as I'm considering the E41's, E21's, and E360's.

Question for those using larger cases like the E41's - does their size prevent you from using them regularly?  Do you only use them while touring?  It's my thought that the larger cases would be more difficult to live with, and that the smaller E21's could stay attached to the bike and replace the topbox for day-to-day riding.

[DredheadV2.0]

This is a timely thread for me as I'm considering the E41's, E21's, and E360's.

Question for those using larger cases like the E41's - does their size prevent you from using them regularly?  Do you only use them while touring?  It's my thought that the larger cases would be more difficult to live with, and that the smaller E21's could stay attached to the bike and replace the topbox for day-to-day riding.

I went for two solid years without taking the cases off (unless I was checking into a motel or something).  I thought I'd hate having them on, but they ended up becoming indispensable.

Now that I live in the city again, and have a 15-minute commute to work.  I leave all three off in favor of a backpack unless there's rain in the forecast and I'll need my wet weather gear.  

[Doug Just Doug]

My E-21s never come off.  They don't stick out past my bar-ends, and being top-loading they'll carry more than you may think.  I've done several 7-day trips with the E-21s and a small (Cortech Mini) tank bag.

[MadMax96]

This is a timely thread for me as I'm considering the E41's, E21's, and E360's.

Question for those using larger cases like the E41's - does their size prevent you from using them regularly?  Do you only use them while touring?  It's my thought that the larger cases would be more difficult to live with, and that the smaller E21's could stay attached to the bike and replace the topbox for day-to-day riding.

I've considered getting the E21s also (not to replace the E41s) but I don't think I'd use them that much.  I prefer to use the topbox only instead of smaller side cases.  It might not look as streamlined, but having the top box doesn't make the bike any wider - this is a huge deal because I regularly squeeze between my car and the side of the garage to enter/exit the garage.  The trunk and doesn't get in my way when getting on/off the bike.

It's also easier to just chuck something in the top case rather than having to try and evenly distribute weight between the two sides.  When I can commute with my bike (limited since I had my daughter) my laptop bag goes in the trunk.  There's no way it'd fit in an E21.

[Rincewind]

Thanks for the feedback.  Unfortunately I'm still undecided.  

Good pics in this thread, but with my particular bike, the high mount exhaust pushes the racks out a little further, so 'pretty wide' becomes 'very wide.'   Other Tiger owners with these bigger bags are reporting an overall width of about 48", which is wider than a Gold Wing.  

[bomber]

Rince -- you're right -- I've got Givis on my 07 Tiger, and they are wide, no doubt

I'm lovin em, though -- lots of capacity!

[138742]

Thanks guys. Rincewind couldn't have said it better. I guess once I get them I will get use to the huge badonkadonk and accept them for their awesome storage capabilities.  

[KLRchickie]

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I was also thinking about the Pelican 1550's. 35 liters a box, bombproof, lifetime guarantee, lockable, very cheap ($90 a box), and slim (less than 8 inches.)
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Where are you finding Pelican 1550's for $90 a box?!?!  That *is* cheap....

[138742]

http://www.caseclub.com/pelican.htm#1550. $90

http://www.all-pelican-cases-4-less.com/detail_pelican_1550.html $94

https://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/3594 $99

All under $100 but I don't know what the shipping is from the sites. They might bend you over on that.

Goodluck!

[ccryder]

Have you looked at the Givi V35's?






They tuck under your tail section so they are not as wide as normal bags.
Neil S.

[zer0netgain]

I have what was the largest Givi standard cases made (might still be).

If you are touring, you don't care how wide it makes the bike look.  You'll be happy to have the space to stow gear in.

Biggest issue for me is remembering (in parking lots) to allow for the extra width.  You can see my avatar to have an idea of how "fat" they make my bike look.

[homebrew]

I chose to forego the Givi case for this custom case.




Actually, I was just doing some cross border shopping and doing the importing myself to avoid the $25 UPS brokerage fee.  At any rate, I too am looking at getting a trunk, but can't settle on an appropriate size that doesn't look like an egg or a square box.

[138742]

Thanks for the pictures and advice fellas. I ordered the E360's and when they come in I will start making the mounts for the bike. If I can figure it out and make it work I am going to have them in the normal saddle position when I have a pillion but when I don't I want them to raise and sit just above the back seat so they are out of the way.  It wouldn't be mounted like a trunk, but just like the saddle bag position, just really close together. I will probably run into some problems but I will see what I can do.

It's very true that it doesn't really matter how wide they are because the waterproof and lockable space is priceless. I was more concerned with my mileage dropping down a lot. But once they are on and I start using them I am sure I won't be disappointed.

I post up some pictures when she is all done.

[RowdyRed94]

I'm a little late here, but I have 360's and a V46 and got 45-48 mpg on my trip to the Dragon. I was shocked, not because of the cases but because I'd never seen that before with the Bandit.

No worries. Your lumpy self messes up the aero more than the cases will.

[Magnarider]

I have Givi E360s on my GPz and I don't find them cumbersome at all.  I never take them off, they're nice to keep things like raingear and such with you all the time.  Have yet to run into issues with the bike feeling weird because of them while riding and, well, I just love these sidecases.  Here's a shot: