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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2008, 08:36:21 AM »


My ST1300 has a load capactiy of 410 pounds maximum.  That's all it can carry, and that includes passangers, gear, luggage, etc.  The ST is a large bike.  Even a GoldWing has a maximum load capacity of around 400 lbs, and the biggest harleys are around 450 I think....

Not sure about a Triumph Sprint - but its probably in the 300-350 range.

Try +100lbs.  Like 465.

Most BMWs and Triumph's Tiger and Sprint ST have ridiculous load caps.  The Suzuki GSX650F has a 480lb load cap.  Beefy bikes are out there - but they're hard to find.

Most Japanese bikes have lower weight capacities than Triumphs and BMWs.  Load capacity was a factor when I bought my BMW, since it was going to serve as a 2-up tourer some of the time (and it does the job *very* well).

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DL650 -> 925 GVWR, 472 ready-to-ride -> 453 load cap
DL1000 -> 965 GVWR, 517 ready to ride -> 448 load cap
Sprint ST 1050 -> , 554 ready to ride -> ??? load cap
My R1100S -> 992 GVWR, 504 ready to ride -> 488 load cap

... etc.

If I find the Sprint ST GVWR, I'll add it.  Same with GSX650F.  I remember being utterly shocked at the GSX650F's load capacity.  Keep in mind none of these load caps take into account addition of luggage systems, which will increase the "ready to ride" weight, thereby decreasing the available load capacity.
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2008, 08:36:21 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2008, 12:05:33 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2008, 10:24:07 PM »

Just a couple of quick notes:

1.  Congrats on wanting to join the ranks!  Always good for new blood to come in.
2.  Your first bike.  Whatever it is, buy USED if you can!  A used Honda Shadow 750 cruiser, for instance, can be had under $4k with less than 5,000 miles on them.  Many used bikes out there, especially the Japanese cruisers, can be had for a song.  Don't worry about it not having enough power, suspension, or whatever:  it's a stepping stone.  Use it to learn on.  Use it to figure what kind of riding you REALLY want to do.  Too many people make the mistake of trying to buy their "dream bike" as their first bike.  Then they drop it backing it out of the garage (which, btw, is how you will likely drop the bike the first time.  We've pretty much all done it.  It's all part of the learning curve.)
3.  Put 6,000 miles on the bike BEFORE deciding what you need to change, etc.  Given your weight, max out the pre-load on the rear shock and, at least for the short term, just call it good until you get the basics of riding down.  It takes 6mo. / 6000 miles to get used to clutching, throttling, downshifting, braking, etc.  It just takes time for the controls to become ingrained in your behavior.
4.  Assuming you buy used, factor in the cost of new tires ($300-400 mounted), brake & oil & radiator fluid change ($120) and a battery ($75).  The tires are likely old and ozone cracked while the fluids just need to be changed because the bike was likely sitting for a long time, absorbing moisture.Possible, but not likely on low mileage models might include a new chain and brake pads.  But not likely.

Bikes I like:
1995-ish BMW R1100R.  
Wee-strom.
Any sub-1000cc J4 (aka, Japanese Big 4 Mfg's) cruiser.  There's a darn good chance of finding something of a modern day classic like the Kawasaki Vulcan Drifter in an 800cc model with super low miles.  J4 bikes, shaft drive, medium displacement cruisers are just this side of indestructible.  It takes crashing of a small nuke to truly damage them.
Honda CB750 Nighthawk
Suzuki Bandit 600

IMO, the first three options are likely the better ones.  

Accept a certain degree of humility in this.  Chances are you will dump the bike.  Several times.  Chances are you will think you are a better rider than you really are.  Humility will be your friend here.  It takes a solid 6-10000 miles to really start to get the flow of riding.  And another 25,000 miles of work to reach a true level of competence.   Take it slow.  Take it easy.  Be open to learning.  And be open to a bit of caution - especially when you start thinking "I've got this licked." and you dial in another bit of throttle.  That's when danger really happens - it's called overconfidence.  Lord knows, it can bite us all.

Crashing sucks.  Invest in a decent set of riding gear, including some riding pants.  A very good friend of mine (Viffer Vern) crashed at 35mph.  Hit a dog at night.  Broken collar bone, tweaked ankle, possible rotator cuff damage.  Some knee rash where his leathers wore through.  Big concussion.  He was wearing full leathers and a full face helmet.  Shit can happen at any speed.  Imagine the damage had he not invested in good gear.  

Good places to shop for gear:

www.ironpony.com  - check out Teknic textiles - lots and lots of supercheap clearance stuff.  
www.newenough.com  - great place.  great owner.  I heard he rode through an ice-storm to donate his left kidney to someone in Montana in the dead of winter.  
www.ebay.com  - you just never know...

Good Luck!

Oh, and post back when you think you've found some solid bike examples!

Regards,

Robert
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2008, 05:38:49 PM »

Hey guys, what's the load capacity on the older style Goldwings?  Maybe he could get one of those (the pre-1800cc engine ones) and it would suit the weight issues and comfort issues fine, and still not take a monetary beating when it gets dropped.
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2008, 08:29:17 PM »


Just a couple of quick notes:

1.  Congrats on wanting to join the ranks!
2.  .......Don't worry about it not having enough power, suspension, or whatever:  it's a stepping stone.  Use it to learn on.


Join the ranks, not the statics.  It's your first bike, not your last Smile
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2008, 09:05:51 AM »

35nready,

Welcome back to life on two wheels.  I too did the dirt bike thing while a pre teen and early teem years and 10 years ago got the itch and wanted to ride again.  At that time I was 6'2" and probably topped around 350 lbs.

Walked into a dealer that was a "friend" and he overcharged me a thousand bucks for a Honda VTX1100.
That bike was just baaaaaaaddddd.  So I bought a Harley Electra Glide because another friend didn't think I could.  After 20 minutes on that bike my low back throbbed.  I sold it because we built our house and I knew I wasn't going to ride for awhile.

During the time I was without a bike I walked into a local dealer and saw a Honda ST1300.  I explained to the dealer my back problems and he indicated that the lean forward of a sport bike / sport touring takes the pressure off of the lower back.

After a lot of thought I decided against the ST1300 and found a left over 2003 Kawasaki ZR-7S.
I agree with the other folks, find an inexpensive bike as a starter in the 600 to 800cc range.  The one thing that has given me the edge in riding long distance is padded bicycling pants.  That one accessory has added many miles to my riding comfort.  I also purchased an aftermarker seat, this helped a lot also.

I will also add something.  As yo continue to loose the weight your riding enjoyment will increase also.  I am down from 340 to 240 pounds.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2008, 09:17:50 AM »

I dunno about a cruiser boys.  This guy is heavy and having all that upper body pushing down his spine to his tailbone with his feet forward may cause some back issues.  A 150-160 pd guy slouching w/ feet forward on a cruiser with no way to weight is feet is one thing but add a couple hundred pounds to that and he may wind up with back trouble, a sore coccyx at the least.

Beef up the suspension on a DL650, old 750 NightHawk, Versys or any older standard and get to gittin'.


If Loud Pipes Save Lives, How Come So Many People Who Have Em' Crash?
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2008, 10:26:36 AM »

got a katana 1100 that will hold you up with no problem
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2008, 07:03:47 PM »


If Loud Pipes Save Lives, How Come So Many People Who Have Em' Crash?


It's different when the crash is rider error, you know that.
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