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LinkHonda launches V4 concept bikeBy MCN News Desk New bikes 07 October 2008 09:47 Honda has launched a V4 sports bike concept at the Cologne Motorcycle Show. Described as the bike Honda really wants to build. There’s no word on technology inside the bike other than the new V4 motor but the bike has been developed to mark 30 years of the Honda V4 engine configuration. Honda Europe’s Boss Mark Davies said ‘This bike shows exactly what we can do and is the sort of thing that could be reality within a couple of years.’ Check back for more updates throughout the day from the Cologne Motorcycle Show  Additional gallery   I think they forgot to add the axles and tires, and, um... steering abilities??
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 06:25:55 AM » |
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At least it is a pretty red! What more can one ask for?  |
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 06:46:53 AM » |
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I dig some of the streamliner styling cues, but I don't see it as being more than a vessel for the new V4 engine. I think that our kids may be riding bikes like this, but not us. I am not saying that there is no imagination out there in motorbike designs, just that the major manufacturers will probably not be sending us anything this creative in my riding lifetime.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 07:01:26 AM » |
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I dig some of the streamliner styling cues, but I don't see it as being more than a vessel for the new V4 engine. I think that our kids may be riding bikes like this, but not us. I am not saying that there is no imagination out there in motorbike designs, just that the major manufacturers will probably not be sending us anything this creative in my riding lifetime.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 07:04:48 AM » |
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At least it is a pretty red! What more can one ask for? Tires, maybe. |
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 07:08:22 AM » |
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Yeah, I'd probably want some rubber on the road too. Maybe I'm old school though.
It's the prettiest ugly bike I've seen...
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 07:38:15 AM » |
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wasn't there a hubless bike concept once?
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 07:38:15 AM » |
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 07:46:42 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2008, 07:52:20 AM » |
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2008, 07:58:31 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2008, 08:03:35 AM » |
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This bike kind of reminds me of the Suzuki Nuda, I remember reading about it in the motorcycle mags when I was in high school. Two wheel drive, single sided swingarms that housed shaft drives. Heck of a design for 1986 http://www.suzukicycles.org/Concept-Suzuki/Nuda.shtml |
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 08:18:15 AM » |
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 08:22:43 AM » |
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2008, 08:23:54 AM » |
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OK...V4 concept bike...I prefer this one:
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 08:36:22 AM » |
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I don't get it. How do you put power to the ground? Gears. Like a planetary gear system. |
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2008, 08:44:02 AM » |
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I don't get it. How do you put power to the ground? They are banking on a future anti-gravity final drive. |
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2008, 08:49:11 AM » |
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Gears.
Like a planetary gear system.
I understand there's a drive system under that stuff...somewhere. How does that power get to the ground? Where do any moving parts actually touch pavement? Or is this the new VFR Anti-gravity Hovercraft? |
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2008, 08:49:56 AM » |
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naw.... they're gonna use a smaller version of a collider to produce really awesome energy that will make lil black holes in turn will suck the edge of the wheel into itself providing rotational movement of wheel propelling said cycle. and because the particles will accelerate so fast and warp the time continuum making the wheel actually go back to it's previous self and be reformed before the lil black holes suck it in again... and the cycle continues. |
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2008, 08:50:15 AM » |
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Maybe I'm just getting old, but if this is the type of bike that we will be having produced down the road, then I am glad I was born when I was. There is nothing about them that appeals to me. I have always told my wife that when I have to quite riding bikes, a nice convertible is in our future. Looks like maybe the convertible is closer than I think.  |
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Link I think they forgot to add the axles and tires, and, um... steering abilities?? Maybe it steers by bending in the middle?  |
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naw.... they're gonna use a smaller version of a collider to produce really awesome energy that will make lil black holes in turn will suck the edge of the wheel into itself providing rotational movement of wheel propelling said cycle. and because the particles will accelerate so fast and warp the time continuum making the wheel actually go back to it's previous self and be reformed before the lil black holes suck it in again... and the cycle continues. Someone should photoshop a Stargate into those wheels, we need to finish the R&D for those Honda guys.  |
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2008, 09:26:59 AM » |
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There is probably an exposed portion of the tire at the bottom.
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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2008, 09:35:01 AM » |
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This should probably be called concept art rather than anything close to workable even as a prototype. It looks more like a model of what you see in early concept drawings that are only for visual design and have no real ties to a workable prototype. I still dig it though. Way more than the production DN-01.
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I understand there's a drive system under that stuff...somewhere. How does that power get to the ground? Where do any moving parts actually touch pavement? Or is this the new VFR Anti-gravity Hovercraft? Oh, they use the force. Nothing unusual for Honda. Yeah....the force. |
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2008, 10:49:16 AM » |
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As the conceived for production in 2020...  As built for 2020...  |
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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2008, 10:50:51 AM » |
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Tires, maybe.
Tires? Where we're going, we don't need tires.
There is probably an exposed portion of the tire at the bottom.
I doubt that there is enough exposed to do any real cornering!  I still don't understand how raising the rider can lower the center of gravity enough to be practical? It's like a cat with its tail in the air! Give me a Gurney Alligator! |
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« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2008, 10:59:13 AM » |
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As the conceived for production in 2020...
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« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2008, 07:54:51 PM » |
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There is probably an exposed portion of the tire at the bottom.
And leaned over? I think Honda just did that to make people go, "WTF?!?!" or Honda's engineers have been using all their R&D money on really good drugs and too much time getting plastered at karaoke bars instead of working on new models. |
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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2008, 08:09:01 PM » |
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That is such a BS concept bike by Honda. Basically a glorified card board cut out. They couldn't even be bothered to make an even vaguely real looking attempt.
Other concept vehicles may not be runners, but at least they look like maybe you could see how they would work.
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Dang...beat me to it. Still...I kinda like the stream-lining theme of the bike. It is nice to see something different coming out of Big Red...well, at least in conceptual form. Combined with some of their other recently-shown concept bikes, I'm hoping to see some truly unique bikes out on the road in the next few years. Cheers, Joe |
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At least it is a pretty red! What more can one ask for? BNG!!! |
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Wait a sec... I only measure 45º between the cylinders... coupled with the
obvious long stroke it adds up to more of a V2 than V4...
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Even BLS is losing faith...
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The only faith I've lost is with American Honda Motorcycle Division... why I'd fire the majority of them...
starting with the ones who drive to work instead of ride to work... That is exactly what is wrong with Honda nowadays. The motorcycle guys have all been replaced with cars guys because thats where the big bucks are to keep the shareholders happy. It would truly suck to be a (motorcycle) R&D or future product development guy at Honda. It could very well be that we are witnessing the slow death of Honda's motorcycle division. |
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It is truly SAD when you have a CONcept motorcycle that does not even have tires.
I didn't really like the NAS. I could appreciate it, but it just wasn't the bike for me. BUT you could see that it was possible.
This one... well... its red and shiny.
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Sbarro's been working the concept for years. Those wheels are not hubless, as evidenced by the big frigging hubs in the middle. They are simply "spokeless" wheels that use a clear plastic in place of the spokes that one would normally see. They are basically just clear wheels, that won't be clear after about five miles of dust from those gigantic disk brakes. |
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Uhhhh, why waste money doing basically a large piece of jewelry versus a true concept?
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Uhhhh, why waste money doing basically a large piece of jewelry versus a true concept?
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spinalator
Brudderhood of Travelling Action Pants
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Years Contributed: '07, '08
Years Supported: '11
GPS: Bald Arse Prairie, Canada
Miles Typed: 1418
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« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2008, 08:09:24 PM » |
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Wow I forgot about the NAS. It still looks pertty good for an 8 year old design. Some interesting functional points have found their way into production bikes. We got the rune but not the NAS...  |
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Baz
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Years Contributed: '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11, '12
Motorcycles: Yamaha FJR
GPS: St. Albert, AB, Canada
Miles Typed: 8244
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« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2008, 08:14:55 PM » |
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Did Eric Buell design this? |
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"A skittish motorbike with a touch of blood in it is better than all the riding animals on earth." - T.E. Lawrence
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JoBu
Breakin' Wind
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Years Contributed: '07
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: '01 Yamaha R1; '06 Goldwing; '07 Speed Triple (Roulette Green); '07 Yamaha FJR1300AE; '08 Suzuki B-King (Black)
GPS: Space Coast, FL
Miles Typed: 1220
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« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2008, 01:26:37 AM » |
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Did Eric Buell design this?
Nah, those air scoops would have been increased by at least a factor of 10.  Cheers, Joe |
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“It was the kind of crowd that would have made the Fool Killer lower his club and shake his head and walk away, frustrated by the magnitude of the opportunity.” – Tom Wolfe |
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Kootenanny
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Miles Typed: 3900
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Buellshit!
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« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2008, 08:25:33 PM » |
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Did Eric Buell design this?
No...if he had, it'd be in production!!! (I do see a couple of his "signature" design concepts in the NAS--both patented, too, IIRC.) |
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E=MC2
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