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So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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I don't have enough money to order oil filters for all the bikes I have now.
If I was in the market for a street bike, that would be toward the top of the list with a few KTMs. I have no real interest in street riding, though.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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By all accounts, the bike does handle well for a sportster. If it is a success, how can it
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cut into the sales of the XB's? Some of the Buell riders that I know bought a Buell because they wanted a Harley product but also a bike that would handle well; the XR seems to fit the bill. And.....it's a REAL Harley.
It's still too heavy for me. Shave another 50 lbs. and I might give it a look.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: blackbuell on December 11, 2008, 09:34:37 AM
By all accounts, the bike does handle well for a sportster.
Now that's a backhanded compliment!!
I think it would be less pricey (as well as more effective) to buy a used 1200 and buy aftermarket suspenders and other bits. Roll yer own, ya know.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Might make a good collectors item IF they don't put it into full US production for 2010.
If I had the money, it would be tempting. More tempting than a Buell or naked Euro-bike? I'm not sure about that.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Cycle World sure damned it to hell and back with faint praise...it must be good!
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: blackbuell on December 11, 2008, 09:34:37 AM
By all accounts, the bike does handle well for a sportster. ......
It's still too heavy for me. Shave another 50 lbs. and I might give it a look.
I rode one, and it handles well, period. Not well for a sportster.
Why do you say it is too heavy for you? Have you tried one and then came up with that conclusion? I gotta say, it really was a sweet ride. The way I can see that it was too heavy is that it did not have enough motor to make it quicker than a half the size Ducati 696.
But the upsides are plenty - dealership availiablity and really really easy servicing. And it looks great in real life.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: atadaskew on December 11, 2008, 12:14:21 PM
I rode one, and it handles well, period. Not well for a sportster.
Why do you say it is too heavy for you? Have you tried one and then came up with that conclusion? I gotta say, it really was a sweet ride. The way I can see that it was too heavy is that it did not have enough motor to make it quicker than a half the size Ducati 696.
But the upsides are plenty - dealership availiablity and really really easy servicing. And it looks great in real life.
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I took one out too and thought that the handling was GREAT. Very stable, very easy to lean over.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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I'll demo one if the local HD shop got one.
I'd like to demo a regular Sportster, too, just for grins.
Motorcycles are good. Yum.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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I would have bought the first one at my dealer but fate has not smiled on me... I just had to buy my dad's GL1800. money is, shall I say, tight.
Someone buy my ZZR1200 and I'll put a third down on an XR1200.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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THis thing would sell like fans at a baptist church in August, if:
- the economy wasn't tanking
- Buell didn't exist
I think it would still more than pay it's own way if the economy was in better shape -- hell, I LOVE my Buell, and I'd still like to get one the XRs -- it'd be a great starting point for a real Tracker.
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Quote from: 1KPerDay on December 11, 2008, 01:18:59 PM
Someone buy my ZZR1200 and I'll put a third down on an XR1200.
ZZR1200 = second sexiest bike ever.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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I know one for sale... wink wink...
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Looks good. It's not worth a dime more than a new Bandit though. Yeah........I'm cheap.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Doesn't do a thing for me, it's still a sportster no matter how you dress it up.
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If I had the money I'd already have one on order. Just because.
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Quote from: TheGoose on December 11, 2008, 04:41:42 PM
If I had the money I'd already have one on order. Just because.
As good as the XR looked in the flesh, the pearl white Griso 8V: wow, holy mother of mothers!
Plus Bike magazine rated it numero uno in a group test that included the XR.
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If I had the money I'd have one of each, and a V11 Tenni like Orson's, and a KTM 690 Super Enduro, and I'd have the time to personally make my T3 bullet proof.
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It's still ugly. Looks like it was penned by the Ray Charles House of Design.
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Well, it ain't no Benelli TNT...... now that's fugly.
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Are you kidding? I just bought a real clean 1982 Suzuki GS1100E w/14K miles........not only would it blow the doors off/out handle the XR, it LOOKS better doing it.............and all for $1200.
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Can anyone come up with a reason to buy an XR1200 over the Buell XB12S Lightning Long?
The Lightning is faster, handles better, lighter, and looks better.
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and looks better.
Only to Buell owners...
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Bring it. I've been posting in the "Walmart" thread so I'm ready for the abuse...
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So you think this is less beautiful than the XR1200?
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Quote from: Rogue on December 11, 2008, 08:18:39 PM
Can anyone come up with a reason to buy an XR1200 over the Buell XB12S Lightning Long?
The Lightning is faster, handles better, lighter, and looks better.
It doesn't say "Harley" on the tank.
It's that simple. People who are non-Harley owners that are attracted to the XR would never even consider a Buell.
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best looking harley ever. i'd buy one if...
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Quote from: scottzilla on December 12, 2008, 05:24:56 AM
It doesn't say "Harley" on the tank.
It's that simple. People who are non-Harley owners that are attracted to the XR would never even consider a Buell.
Uh, no. I'm really seriously considering a Buell 1125R as my next bike. But that XR is the best looking Harley ever and looks like a blast to ride...and I don't own a Harley.
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Quote from: FredE on December 11, 2008, 07:10:11 PM
Are you kidding? I just bought a real clean 1982 Suzuki GS1100E w/14K miles........not only would it blow the doors off/out handle the XR, it LOOKS better doing it.............and all for $1200.
Good for you. Faster in a straight line? Yes. Out handle? No (go ride one and see).Looks better? Hell no. Sounds better? No. Easier to work on? No. Got a really sweet lash free low maintenance belt drive? No. Better brakes? No.
So you got one out of seven. And a 26 year old used bike. Sweeeeet.
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Quote from: Rogue on December 11, 2008, 08:18:39 PM
Can anyone come up with a reason to buy an XR1200 over the Buell XB12S Lightning Long?
The Lightning is faster, handles better, lighter, and looks better.
Sure, I'd rather ride the XR because it looks better. Not everyone is performance/spec sheet obsessed.
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Quote from: atadaskew on December 12, 2008, 08:05:19 AM
Good for you. Faster in a straight line? Yes. Out handle? No (go ride one and see).Looks better? Hell no. Sounds better? No. Easier to work on? No. Got a really sweet lash free low maintenance belt drive? No. Better brakes? No.
So you got one out of seven. And a 26 year old used bike. Sweeeeet.
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Quote from: atadaskew on December 12, 2008, 08:05:19 AM
Good for you. Faster in a straight line? Yes. Out handle? No (go ride one and see).Looks better? Hell no. Sounds better? No. Easier to work on? No. Got a really sweet lash free low maintenance belt drive? No. Better brakes? No.
So you got one out of seven.
And a 26 year old used bike.
Sweeeeet.
Bingo. Carb needles and such are getting harder and harder to find...
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Quote from: Rincewind on December 12, 2008, 04:59:39 AM
Yes. No comparison. The Buell is cool in an industrial kind of way, but its far from beautiful. The XR has traditional good looks.
I agree. They appeal to different aesthetics. I think the Buell is great looking (not the water cooled) but the XR showcases the engine, it's just more 'bike' looking and looks much better in real life than in the pics. I like the way the rear cylinder isn't hidden by the frame spar.
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Bingo. Carb needles and such are getting harder and harder to find...
Not too mention all the dried out rubber parts and the super crispy wiring loom.
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I've ridden one and it was very good. Stopped and handled. But if I had the money, I'd buy a Griso instead.
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XR 1200 Specs
Engine Air-cooled, Evolution
Displacement 1202cc
Engine Torque 74 ft. lbs / 100 NM @ 3700 rpm
Horsepower 90hp / 67kW @ 7000 rpm
Bore x Stroke (mm) 88.9 x 96.8
Fuel System Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)
Compression Ratio 10.0:1
Exhaust System Upswept, high-volume 2-1-2 straight shot exhaust system finished in satin chrome
Primary Drive Chain, 57/34 ratio
Final Drive Belt, 68/28 ratio
Clutch 8-plate, wet
Transmission 5 speed
Brakes, Dia (Front/Rear, mm) 292 dual / 260
Caliper Type Dual 4-piston, fixed front, single-piston floating rear
Front Fork 43 mm inverted
Rear Shocks Coil-over; preload dual-adjustable
Suspension Travel (mm) Front 125/Rear 89
Frame Mild steel tubular frame; circular sections; cast junctions
Swingarm Aluminium cast
Length (mm) 2,195
Seat Height (mm) 742
Ground Clearance (mm) 147
Rake at steering head (°) / Trail (mm) 29.3 / 130
Fork Angle (°) 27.8
Wheelbase (mm) Valentino Rossi
Fuel Capacity (liters) 13.3
Oil Capacity with Filter (liters) 2.8
Dry Weight (kg) 250
Color Options Vivid Black; Mirage Orange Pearl; Pewter Denim
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Quote from: Rincewind on December 12, 2008, 04:59:39 AM
Yes. No comparison. The Buell is cool in an industrial kind of way, but its far from beautiful. The XR has traditional good looks.
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You guys are funny. All of a sudden old jap bikes suck?
County- why is the wheelbase measured in "Valentino Rossi"?
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You guys are funny. All of a sudden old jap bikes suck?
County- why is the wheelbase measured in "Valentino Rossi"?
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Not for me. It needs more motor since it's not a cruiser. I'd have to go with a bandit 1250 to satisfy my standard cravings. Smooth torque beats lumpy torque everytime.
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I'm with Gravy.
I think the XR is a cool bike but I can't get past what it really is: A 600 pound bike with 90 hp (probably 70 at the rear wheel) that doesn't stop all that well and in reality, handles well until you start scraping hard parts down.
I think long term ownership of this bike would be tough.
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Quote from: scottzilla on December 12, 2008, 01:17:53 PM
I think the XR is a cool bike but I can't get past what it really is: A 600 pound bike with 90 hp (probably 70 at the rear wheel) that doesn't stop all that well
Actually, it stops really well... the motor does run out of breath pretty quick, though.
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Quote from: desert_rider on December 12, 2008, 01:39:49 PM
Actually, it stops really well... the motor does run out of breath pretty quick, though.
It stops well for a Harley. Have you ever ridden a Harley?
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Quote from: scottzilla on December 12, 2008, 01:43:08 PM
It stops well for a Harley. Have you ever ridden a Harley?
Harley's I've rode: XR1200(demo'ed), Crossbones(demo'ed), Fat Bob(demo'ed), Duece(rented), Heritage Softail(rented), V-Rod(rented), Night Rod(rented).
The XR1200 stops well against any modern bike. It's got real brakes and modern rubber.
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Quote from: scottzilla on December 12, 2008, 01:43:08 PM
It stops well for a Harley. Have you ever ridden a Harley?
It stops well for any bike. Have you ridden the XR?
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I think you guys are smoking crack!
I haven't ridden an XR and don't doubt it has the best brakes to ever appear on a Harley but c'mon, we're talking about Harley's here!
That XR stops as well as an R1? My ass.
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Quote from: scottzilla on December 12, 2008, 02:54:53 PM
I haven't ridden an XR
and don't doubt it has the best brakes to ever appear on a Harley but c'mon, we're talking about Harley's here!
And there you have it.
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Quote from: atadaskew on December 12, 2008, 03:29:41 PM
And there you have it.
Motorcycle.com were impressed with the brakes:
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Never have I ridden a Harley that stops with such force while offering so much feel. H-D teamed up with Nissin again (the company makes calipers for the rest of the Sportster line) in order to come up with an all-new caliper. The dual four-piston pinchers squeeze a set of 292mm rotors with such force that I locked the grippy front Dunlop at one time. These brakes are nothing short of spectacular and should be grasped with caution should you take advantage of an XR1200 demo ride and are expecting the usual Harley brake. This brake set is on-par with the brake systems on any number of Japanese performance-oriented street motorcycles.
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/harley-davidson/2009-harleydavidson-sportster-xr1200-review-87709.html
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Quote from: Aero on December 12, 2008, 05:12:38 PM
It's always a good idea to know what you're talking about before offering an opinion!
Which is why I bolded Scott's comments that he hadn't ridden the bike, but felt that he could pass judgment.
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The XR and harley's in general aren't everyones vessel of tea. Why the hard sell on how good the damn thing is, are you moonlighting at a hog dealer or something?
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Quote from: gritsngravy on December 12, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
The XR and harley's in general aren't everyones vessel of tea. Why the hard sell on how good the damn thing is, are you moonlighting at a hog dealer or something?
No kiddin'..
It's a neat little bike and all, and like the VRod admittedly a quantum leap for HD as far as weight, power, handling, etc... Hell, they're only about 10-15 years behind any typical Japanese standard/sport bike now (vs. 50)!
Face it kids, it's an AMAZING Harley, but a (waaaaay) overpriced, underpowered, overweight MOTORCYCLE. Just not as overpriced, underpowered and overweight as a typical HD, so admittedly a step in the right direction!
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My post:
Are you kidding? I just bought a real clean 1982 Suzuki GS1100E w/14K miles........not only would it blow the doors off/out handle the XR, it LOOKS better doing it.............and all for $1200.
Your response:
Good for you. Faster in a straight line? Yes. Out handle? No (go ride one and see).Looks better? Hell no. Sounds better? No. Easier to work on? No. Got a really sweet lash free low maintenance belt drive? No. Better brakes? No.
So you got one out of seven. And a 26 year old used bike. Sweeeeet.
See.....you DID get my point.........that brand new $11000 lipstick-on-a-pig H-D 600+ lb./70 RWHP rehash follows a 26 year old bike across the finish line.
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How did this get into the Buell forum? It belongs in the Harley forum!
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Quote from: FredE on December 12, 2008, 06:51:21 PM
See.....you DID get my point.........that brand new $11000 lipstick-on-a-pig H-D 600+ lb./70 RWHP rehash follows a 26 year old bike across the finish line.
It takes one category out of seven. Any monkey can stretch a throttle cable in a straight line. If that's what you want, then yes this isn't the bike for you. Add some curves and your old beater will be left in the dust.
From your comments you obviously haven't demoed an XR, but why let facts get in the way of ignorance?
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Quote from: Rogue on December 12, 2008, 08:39:18 PM
How did this get into the Buell forum? It belongs in the Harley forum!
No kidding! Dantes got some esplainin' to do!
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It takes one category out of seven. Any monkey can stretch a throttle cable in a straight line. If that's what you want, then yes this isn't the bike for you. Add some curves and your old beater will be left in the dust.
From your comments you obviously haven't demoed an XR, but why let facts get in the way of ignorance?
Jeebus, but you Harley guys are really something. Here you are, ferociously and stridently defending your $11K rolling anachronism against a $1,200 26-YEAR-OLD THIRD-HAND MACHINE. Does the signifigance of this escape you? Fer cryin' out loud, get a grip..............when your XR shows up, you can still be the "Lead Pirate" at the Lifestyle Parade.
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I'm not a fan of most HD's but I applaud them for bringing the XR home where it belongs. For an HD, it seems to offer reasonable performance (especially for a brand so satisfied w/NOT focusing on performance) but for the life of me, I can't imagine why anyone would spend their $$ on an XR when, for years, Buell XB's were out there, are still less expensive (particularly used ones) lighter, more powerful & no doubt handle & brake better. No-sir-ee, I'd buy an XB12Ss before I'd buy an XR1200.
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Doesn't do a thing for me, it's still a sportster no matter how you dress it up.
I like it but it needs a bigger headlight and either a solo boattail or real dual seat, not a mixture of the two. I'm sure there will be geniune parts available.
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Quote from: FredE on December 12, 2008, 11:17:30 PM
Jeebus, but you Harley guys are really something. Here you are, ferociously and stridently defending your $11K rolling anachronism against a $1,200 26-YEAR-OLD THIRD-HAND MACHINE. Does the signifigance of this escape you? Fer cryin' out loud, get a grip..............when your XR shows up, you can still be the "Lead Pirate" at the Lifestyle Parade.
Nice try. But you started the trolling and now you can't handle the facts. Here's the thing. I notice you have a Tuono. Why did you buy that lump? Don't you know a Hayabusa will absolutely destroy it in a straight line contest? And you can buy an old beaten up first gen Busa for about $4k. Dood, what were you thinking getting that Vtwin?...
Seriously please explain, this should be entertaining...
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Quote from: atadaskew on December 12, 2008, 05:44:50 PM
Which is why I bolded Scott's comments that he hadn't ridden the bike, but felt that he could pass judgment.
You test rode one and therefore, are suddenly an expert?
Every review i've read indicates the brakes are the best to ever appear on a Harley. The brakes my be good enough for the bike but I don't believe for a second Harley suddenly corrected one of the weakest areas of their bikes the last 50 years or so.
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I think it's awesome STN now loves Harleys. Someone write the date down, please.
Do Harley riders still suck?
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Quote from: scottzilla on December 13, 2008, 10:26:12 AM
You test rode one and therefore, are suddenly an expert?
Every review i've read indicates the brakes are the best to ever appear on a Harley. The brakes my be good enough for the bike but I don't believe for a second Harley suddenly corrected one of the weakest areas of their bikes the last 50 years or so.
I can assure you that the brakes are good. Not just enough good, but good. And it handles.
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Nice try. But you started the trolling and now you can't handle the facts. Here's the thing. I notice you have a Tuono. Why did you buy that lump? Don't you know a Hayabusa will absolutely destroy it in a straight line contest? And you can buy an old beaten up first gen Busa for about $4k. Dood, what were you thinking getting that Vtwin?...
Seriously please explain, this should be entertaining...
I have a small stable of bikes.............I buy them because I want to. I don't feel any overriding obligation to justify any of those purchases to anyone.
Specious logic and smokescreens (how did a Tuono vs. a Hayabusa become germane to this interaction?) do not qualify as serious discussion.
Let me distill this:
A query was posed as to who was wanting to buy the newly offered HD XR1200. I responded with my disinclination to do so, and offered my recently purchased '82 GS1100E as an example of why I was so disinclined. Actually there are HUNDREDS of other motorcycle purchases which make more sense to me. Bikes that cost far less, and perform better. You can most likely name a couple of dozen candidates yourself, judging by the bikes you own. This is my point.
Make your XR1200 purchase and be happy with it..............it's YOUR money.
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Quote from: FredE on December 13, 2008, 12:01:49 PM
I have a small stable of bikes.............I buy them because I want to. I don't feel any overriding obligation to justify any of those purchases to anyone.
Specious logic and smokescreens (how did a Tuono vs. a Hayabusa become germane to this interaction?) do not qualify as serious discussion.
Let me distill this:
A query was posed as to who was wanting to buy the newly offered HD XR1200. I responded with my disinclination to do so, and offered my recently purchased '82 GS1100E as an example of why I was so disinclined. Actually there are HUNDREDS of other motorcycle purchases which make more sense to me. Bikes that cost far less, and perform better. You can most likely name a couple of dozen candidates yourself, judging by the bikes you own. This is my point.
Make your XR1200 purchase and be happy with it..............it's YOUR money.
Don't be so grumpy. Nice one on the 82 bike. Buying old stuff has always been the bestest thing to do. But let peeps dream-how many on this thread are actually going to buy one? I liked it, but I wouldn't.
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If Buell didn't exist, I would buy one because a lot of my riding, which is commuting suits the bike well. I like the way the XR1200 looks. I like the fact that it exists for those who want the look and get some performance out of it. But since I'm not in love with its looks, I can't get over the much greater performance of the Buells.
If H-D expects the XR1200 to completely replace the existing Sportster 1200, they need to spice up its look a bit instead of making it too Euro-blacked out. Because this bike will need to attract traditional H-D owners who are all about looks for the most part, as well as new H-D owners, and finally those looking at Buells who may prefer the more standard looking XR1200.
If the XR1200 is to succeed, H-D needs to NOT offer any other Sportster but the XR1200. On top of that, they need to offer high performance parts and bling parts to their catalog for the XR1200. Then they need to promote it heavily for a while. In other words, they need to make a 100% committment to the XR1200. Half-assed efforts in the US market is doomed to fail in the showroom. I've visited many H-D dealers, talked to many H-D owners, I gotta say that I am convinced these customers are NOT at all enthused by Buell and their bikes. Most of them won't even get near the bikes and refuse to understand the reason behind them. So the XR1200 needs to attract many of these riders. I think it does have a good chance if H-D markets and promotes it properly.
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Quote from: FredE on December 12, 2008, 11:17:30 PM
Jeebus, but you Harley guys are really something. Here you are, ferociously and stridently defending your $11K rolling anachronism against a $1,200 26-YEAR-OLD THIRD-HAND MACHINE. Does the signifigance of this escape you? Fer cryin' out loud, get a grip..............when your XR shows up, you can still be the "Lead Pirate" at the Lifestyle Parade.
psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.
And I'll do it without wearing a single piece of leather and in full gear. Promise.
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Quote from: chornbe on December 13, 2008, 06:34:06 PM
psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.
He'll pick a freeway.
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He'll pick a freeway.
That's why I said I get to pick the road.
I had the girl bike out this morning and shit was that fun... I haven't ridden the little one for anything more than a quick run up the road in a month or so. I had to run into work today; took the long way in, ran some errands on the way home... had a kick ass ride. My anachronistic POS is fun and makes me smile.
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Quote from: FredE on December 13, 2008, 12:01:49 PM
I don't feel any overriding obligation to justify any of those purchases to anyone.
Translation: I can make fun of Harleys and those who buy them but they can't make fun of me because it's not nice.
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If the XR1200 is to succeed, H-D needs to NOT offer any other Sportster but the XR1200.
Slap the Buell heads on it and replace everything in the Sportster lineup with it... Hell yes.
Every sportster being sold (except the XR) in the current new lineup is now of the lowered variety and they scrape parts as soon as you leave the parking space.
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I love the idea, love the looks but no.
The Speed Triple is over 120 lbs lighter, has another 40 horsepower, the same torque, a better stigma (in my eyes), comes in black and is sitting in my garage undoubtedly scaring the piss out of my wife's Toyota and my Sprint ST.
I think we are at our federal limit of Harley's in Florida and I'd rather be part of the solution.
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Quote from: chornbe on December 13, 2008, 06:34:06 PM
psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.
And I'll do it without wearing a single piece of leather and in full gear. Promise.
I'll bring the XX. Don't worry, I'll let all the air out of my front tire so you old fucks can keep up.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.
And I'll do it without wearing a single piece of leather and in full gear. Promise.
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He'll pick a freeway.
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That's why I said I get to pick the road.
I had the girl bike out this morning and shit was that fun... I haven't ridden the little one for anything more than a quick run up the road in a month or so. I had to run into work today; took the long way in, ran some errands on the way home... had a kick ass ride. My anachronistic POS is fun and makes me smile.
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Translation: I can make fun of Harleys and those who buy them but they can't make fun of me because it's not nice
You two are hilarious - panties all in a bunch over nothing.
One more time: You buy & ride what you like, and I'll buy & ride what I like.
BTW...........from time to time in life, you WILL encounter others whose opinions differ from yours.
When others voice those opinions, is isn't absolutely necessary to issue grade school challenges..........makes you look juvenile, really.
I don't like Harleys - the two of you do............BFD.
Here's an end to this waste of everyone's time.
Buh bye, now.
P.S. Sorry, Corporal-General Lord Pig - you are correct, of course.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: FredE on December 13, 2008, 08:33:43 PM
One more time: You buy & ride what you like, and I'll buy & ride what I like.
Sez the guy who started this whole thing with:
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Are you kidding? I just bought a real clean 1982 Suzuki GS1100E w/14K miles........not only would it blow the doors off/out handle the XR, it LOOKS better doing it.............and all for $1200. Lol
And then couldn't give a reason why he owns a Tuono even though there are much faster much cheaper beater bikes out there. He can use that logic to slag on the XR, but does not like it when that same logic is applied back.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: scottzilla on December 13, 2008, 10:26:12 AM
You test rode one and therefore, are suddenly an expert?
Compared to you who hasn't, but of course.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: blackbuell on December 11, 2008, 09:34:37 AM
...If it is a success, how can it
not
cut into the sales of the XB's? Some of the Buell riders that I know bought a Buell because they wanted a Harley product but also a bike that would handle well; the XR seems to fit the bill. And.....it's a REAL Harley.
Hmmm...I bought a Buell
despite
the fact it's "a Harley product" (actually, the only part of it that has any relationship with H-D is the engine and tranny, and I believe turnsignals...).
Why do so many riders have such a hate-on for Harleys? Geez, guys, if you don't like 'em, fine, don't ride one. Why this need to rag on 'em? (and no, I'm not one of the Harley faithful--I'd never even been into a Harley shop before I got interested in Buells).
The guy with the '82 GS1100E--hey, I used to ride back when that thing was new. One reason I don't own a bike from that era anymore is because I appreciate radial tires and modern suspension. There's more to motorcycles than horsepower.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Does anybody know someone who has purchased one yet?
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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December 18, 2008, 01:16:24 PM »
Move it over to the HD forum.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: Kootenanny on December 14, 2008, 11:01:54 PM
Why do so many riders have such a hate-on for Harleys? Geez, guys, if you don't like 'em, fine, don't ride one. Why this need to rag on 'em? (and no, I'm not one of the Harley faithful--I'd never even been into a Harley shop before I got interested in Buells).
IMHO it has to do more with the lifestyle than the motorcycle that people dislike.
Or should I say those that ride a HD like the lifestyle more than they like the bike?
damn I don't know.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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February 03, 2009, 03:58:13 PM »
You are correct.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Yes, I have one in my possession. Picked it up last Saturday. The riding position is almost identical to my XB12XT, it even sounds like my Buell.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: josephthreedogs on February 20, 2009, 01:51:12 PM
Yes, I have one in my possession. Picked it up last Saturday. The riding position is almost identical to my XB12XT, it even sounds like my Buell.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: josephthreedogs on February 20, 2009, 01:51:12 PM
Yes, I have one in my possession. Picked it up last Saturday. The riding position is almost identical to my XB12XT, it even sounds like my Buell.
Dood, you currently own 7 Vrods?
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Hmmm, has available rigid molded tank, tail and saddle bags along with a luggage rack to make it , oops I forgot the detachable sport screen,"...into a Euro-style sport tourer.", from the brochure the salesman went and got when I asked how much it weighed. Sat well in the dealership. But $11,000.00!
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: mugwump58 on February 20, 2009, 02:23:05 PM
But $11,000.00!
I know! What a deal!!!!
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: atadaskew on February 20, 2009, 02:01:41 PM
Dood, you currently own 7 Vrods?
Yep, plus a few other bikes. Never met a MC I didn't like.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: josephthreedogs on February 23, 2009, 02:18:49 PM
Yep, plus a few other bikes. Never met a MC I didn't like.
You own 7vrods, all at the same time. Like there are 7 Vrods in your garage right now?
Not knocking the bike, cuz it's cool, but why 7 of them?
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: atadaskew on February 23, 2009, 02:22:44 PM
You own 7vrods, all at the same time. Like there are 7 Vrods in your garage right now?
Not knocking the bike, cuz it's cool, but why 7 of them?
There like puppies, once you touch them you have to take them home.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: atadaskew on February 23, 2009, 02:22:44 PM
You own 7vrods, all at the same time. Like there are 7 Vrods in your garage right now?
Not knocking the bike, cuz it's cool, but why 7 of them?
One for each day of the week!
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: josephthreedogs on February 25, 2009, 08:10:50 AM
There like puppies, once you touch them you have to take them home.
It takes 7 VRods to do what one ST1300 does.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Quote from: scottzilla on February 25, 2009, 09:06:50 AM
It takes 7 VRods to do what one ST1300 does.
No, 7 Vrods will not repel women.
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Quote from: desert_rider on February 25, 2009, 08:12:28 AM
One for each day of the week!
Starting with the Destroyer on Sunday.
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Re: So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?
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Congrats on the XR josephthreedogs, but with all those Vrods what day will you ride the XR???
Quote from: scottzilla on February 25, 2009, 09:06:50 AM
It takes 7 VRods to do what one ST1300 does.
Quote from: atadaskew on February 25, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
No, 7 Vrods will not repel women.
So thats why the wife had no objections to me picking up the ST
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