So, who's ordering one of them new XR 1200's?

[atadaskew]

Jeebus, but you Harley guys are really something.  Here you are, ferociously and stridently defending your $11K rolling anachronism against a $1,200 26-YEAR-OLD THIRD-HAND MACHINE.  Does the signifigance of this escape you?  Fer cryin' out loud, get a grip..............when your XR shows up, you can still be the "Lead Pirate" at the Lifestyle Parade.  

Nice try.  But you started the trolling and now you can't handle the facts.  Here's the thing.  I notice you have a Tuono.  Why did you buy that lump?  Don't you know a Hayabusa will absolutely destroy it in a straight line contest? And you can buy an old beaten up first gen Busa for about $4k.  Dood, what were you thinking getting that Vtwin?...
Seriously please explain, this should be entertaining...
 

[scottzilla]

Which is why I bolded Scott's comments that he hadn't ridden the bike, but felt that he could pass judgment.

You test rode one and therefore, are suddenly an expert?
Every review i've read indicates the brakes are the best to ever appear on a Harley.  The brakes my be good enough for the bike but I don't believe for a second Harley suddenly corrected one of the weakest areas of their bikes the last 50 years or so.

[scottzilla]

I think it's awesome STN now loves Harleys.  Someone write the date down, please.
Do Harley riders still suck?

[Papa Lazarou]

You test rode one and therefore, are suddenly an expert?
Every review i've read indicates the brakes are the best to ever appear on a Harley.  The brakes my be good enough for the bike but I don't believe for a second Harley suddenly corrected one of the weakest areas of their bikes the last 50 years or so.

I can assure you that the brakes are good. Not just enough good, but good. And it handles.

[FredE]

Nice try.  But you started the trolling and now you can't handle the facts.  Here's the thing.  I notice you have a Tuono.  Why did you buy that lump?  Don't you know a Hayabusa will absolutely destroy it in a straight line contest? And you can buy an old beaten up first gen Busa for about $4k.  Dood, what were you thinking getting that Vtwin?...
Seriously please explain, this should be entertaining...

I have a small stable of bikes.............I buy them because I want to.  I don't feel any overriding obligation to justify any of those purchases to anyone.  

Specious logic and smokescreens (how did a Tuono vs. a Hayabusa become germane to this interaction?) do not qualify as serious discussion.

Let me distill this:

A query was posed as to who was wanting to buy the newly offered HD XR1200.  I responded with my disinclination to do so, and offered my recently purchased '82 GS1100E as an example of why I was so disinclined.  Actually there are HUNDREDS of other motorcycle purchases which make more sense to me.  Bikes that cost far less, and perform better. You can most likely name a couple of dozen candidates yourself, judging by the bikes you own.  This is my point.

Make your XR1200 purchase and be happy with it..............it's YOUR money.

   

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I have a small stable of bikes.............I buy them because I want to.  I don't feel any overriding obligation to justify any of those purchases to anyone.  

Specious logic and smokescreens (how did a Tuono vs. a Hayabusa become germane to this interaction?) do not qualify as serious discussion.

Let me distill this:

A query was posed as to who was wanting to buy the newly offered HD XR1200.  I responded with my disinclination to do so, and offered my recently purchased '82 GS1100E as an example of why I was so disinclined.  Actually there are HUNDREDS of other motorcycle purchases which make more sense to me.  Bikes that cost far less, and perform better. You can most likely name a couple of dozen candidates yourself, judging by the bikes you own.  This is my point.

Make your XR1200 purchase and be happy with it..............it's YOUR money.

  

 

Don't be so grumpy. Nice one on the 82 bike. Buying old stuff has always been the bestest thing to do. But let peeps dream-how many on this thread are actually going to buy one? I liked it, but I wouldn't.

[Rogue]

If Buell didn't exist, I would buy one because a lot of my riding, which is commuting suits the bike well.  I like the way the XR1200 looks.  I like the fact that it exists for those who want the look and get some performance out of it.  But since I'm not in love with its looks, I can't get over the much greater performance of the Buells.

If H-D expects the XR1200 to completely replace the existing Sportster 1200, they need to spice up its look a bit instead of making it too Euro-blacked out.  Because this bike will need to attract traditional H-D owners who are all about looks for the most part, as well as new H-D owners, and finally those looking at Buells who may prefer the more standard looking XR1200.  

If the XR1200 is to succeed, H-D needs to NOT offer any other Sportster but the XR1200.  On top of that, they need to offer high performance parts and bling parts to their catalog for the XR1200.  Then they need to promote it heavily for a while.  In other words, they need to make a 100% committment to the XR1200.  Half-assed efforts in the US market is doomed to fail in the showroom.  I've visited many H-D dealers, talked to many H-D owners, I gotta say that I am convinced these customers are NOT at all enthused by Buell and their bikes.  Most of them won't even get near the bikes and refuse to understand the reason behind them.  So the XR1200 needs to attract many of these riders.  I think it does have a good chance if H-D markets and promotes it properly.  

[chornbe]

Jeebus, but you Harley guys are really something.  Here you are, ferociously and stridently defending your $11K rolling anachronism against a $1,200 26-YEAR-OLD THIRD-HAND MACHINE.  Does the signifigance of this escape you?  Fer cryin' out loud, get a grip..............when your XR shows up, you can still be the "Lead Pirate" at the Lifestyle Parade.  

psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.

And I'll do it without wearing a single piece of leather and in full gear. Promise.  

[atadaskew]

psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.

He'll pick a freeway.

[chornbe]

He'll pick a freeway.

That's why I said I get to pick the road.

I had the girl bike out this morning and shit was that fun... I haven't ridden the little one for anything more than a quick run up the road in a month or so. I had to run into work today; took the long way in, ran some errands on the way home... had a kick ass ride. My anachronistic POS is fun and makes me smile.  

[atadaskew]

 I don't feel any overriding obligation to justify any of those purchases to anyone.  

 

Translation: I can make fun of Harleys and those who buy them but they can't make fun of me because it's not nice.

[chornbe]

If the XR1200 is to succeed, H-D needs to NOT offer any other Sportster but the XR1200.

Slap the Buell heads on it and replace everything in the Sportster lineup with it... Hell yes.  

Every sportster being sold (except the XR) in the current new lineup is now of the lowered variety and they scrape parts as soon as you leave the parking space.  

[Hink]

I love the idea, love the looks but no.

The Speed Triple is over 120 lbs lighter, has another 40 horsepower, the same torque, a better stigma (in my eyes), comes in black and is sitting in my garage undoubtedly scaring the piss out of my wife's Toyota and my Sprint ST.

I think we are at our federal limit of Harley's in Florida and I'd rather be part of the solution.

[scottzilla]

psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.

And I'll do it without wearing a single piece of leather and in full gear. Promise.  

I'll bring the XX.  Don't worry, I'll let all the air out of my front tire so you old fucks can keep up.

[FredE]

psst... grab your GS and I'll grab my girlie 883, I pick the road. I'll even let you leave first.

And I'll do it without wearing a single piece of leather and in full gear. Promise.

He'll pick a freeway.

That's why I said I get to pick the road.

I had the girl bike out this morning and shit was that fun... I haven't ridden the little one for anything more than a quick run up the road in a month or so. I had to run into work today; took the long way in, ran some errands on the way home... had a kick ass ride. My anachronistic POS is fun and makes me smile.

Translation: I can make fun of Harleys and those who buy them but they can't make fun of me because it's not nice

You two are hilarious - panties all in a bunch over nothing.  

One more time: You buy & ride what you like, and I'll buy & ride what I like.

BTW...........from time to time in life, you WILL encounter others whose opinions differ from yours.

When others voice those opinions, is isn't absolutely necessary to issue grade school challenges..........makes you look juvenile, really.

I don't like Harleys - the two of you do............BFD.

Here's an end to this waste of everyone's time.

Buh bye, now.

P.S. Sorry, Corporal-General Lord Pig - you are correct, of course.

[atadaskew]

One more time: You buy & ride what you like, and I'll buy & ride what I like.

Sez the guy who started this whole thing with:

Are you kidding?  I just bought a real clean 1982 Suzuki GS1100E w/14K miles........not only would it blow the doors off/out handle the XR, it LOOKS better doing it.............and all for $1200.   Lol

And then couldn't give a reason why he owns a Tuono even though there are much faster much cheaper beater bikes out there.  He can use that logic to slag on the XR, but does not like it when that same logic is applied back.

 

[atadaskew]

You test rode one and therefore, are suddenly an expert?

Compared to you who hasn't, but of course.

[Kootenanny]

...If it is a success, how can it not cut into the sales of the XB's? Some of the Buell riders that I know bought a Buell because they wanted a Harley product but also a bike that would handle well; the XR seems to fit the bill. And.....it's a REAL Harley.

Hmmm...I bought a Buell despite the fact it's "a Harley product" (actually, the only part of it that has any relationship with H-D is the engine and tranny, and I believe turnsignals...).


Why do so many riders have such a hate-on for Harleys?  Geez, guys, if you don't like 'em, fine, don't ride one.  Why this need to rag on 'em?  (and no, I'm not one of the Harley faithful--I'd never even been into a Harley shop before I got interested in Buells).

The guy with the '82 GS1100E--hey, I used to ride back when that thing was new.  One reason I don't own a bike from that era anymore is because I appreciate radial tires and modern suspension.  There's more to motorcycles than horsepower.

[blackbuell]

Does anybody know someone who has purchased one yet?

[Thunderbox]

Move it over to the HD forum.