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« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2007, 12:22:11 PM »


Whatever you do, do NOT buy Sigma lenses. The most inferior optics I have ever had the misfortune to use. Second only to Minolta's Maxxum optics of the mid 1980s'.


Hm, I'm about to buy a Sigma 30mm f1.4. Mostly because I've heard good reviews, need a fast "digital prime" lens, and I don't have $2k laying around to buy a Nikkor 28mm f1.4. Is the anti-Sigma sentiment current, or based on history?
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« Reply #101 on: February 22, 2007, 12:27:35 PM »

Both. My last experience (two years ago) with a Sigma lens was their miserable 15-30 zoom that would show a lens flare if somebody lit their fart one state away. Also, the filter adapter would be in the frame if you zoomed all the way out. Overall the optical quality was pure crap.

You will get what you pay for. Look at Tokina if you have to instead. The reason why the Sigma DSLRs arent taken seriously in the professional market is because of their crap optics.
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« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2007, 02:23:26 PM »

I got a Tamron lens recently (200/500 canon), That has good image quality and much lighter than sigma or Nikon.

Just mentioning the manufacturer, I don't believe any one else has.
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« Reply #103 on: February 22, 2007, 02:41:50 PM »


I got a Tamron lens recently (200/500 canon), That has good image quality and much lighter than sigma or Nikon.

Just mentioning the manufacturer, I don't believe any one else has.


I have no personal experience with Tamron, but I have a friend who has done some excellent work with one of their lenses.
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« Reply #104 on: February 22, 2007, 04:26:55 PM »

So isn't there another thread somewhere that deals with cameras, while this thread was intended to deal with methods/techniques? You guys are about as focused as a Poloroid!  Lol
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« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2007, 04:40:47 PM »

I have posted methods in this methods thread.

Actually choices of lenses may be more a method than you think. But it is a gray area.

The angle of an image may be a method while the pic may not be. The fuzz in an image may encourage others to suggest a lens, or an f stop or a shutter speed. It is offered to teach a poster what he is seeking.

It is beneficial but I personally recognize you're concern of going OT. I'll try to restrain myself.

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« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2007, 08:41:22 PM »


I have posted methods in this methods thread.

Actually choices of lenses may be more a method than you think. But it is a gray area.

The angle of an image may be a method while the pic may not be. The fuzz in an image may encourage others to suggest a lens, or an f stop or a shutter speed. It is offered to teach a poster what he is seeking.

Fair 'nuff  Smile
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« Reply #107 on: February 22, 2007, 10:03:24 PM »


So isn't there another thread somewhere that deals with cameras, while this thread was intended to deal with methods/techniques? You guys are about as focused as a Poloroid!  Lol


I requested a separate forum and it was ignored. Dredhead did a nice thing by at least creating stickys. Kind of hard to keep things organized but if thats as good as it gets............
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« Reply #108 on: February 23, 2007, 08:29:13 AM »

I second a separate forum. I am glad Dredhead created the stickys  Thumbsup I think cameras and sport-touring go hand and hand you get to keep the memories of your ride in photos Bigsmile
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« Reply #109 on: February 23, 2007, 08:38:41 AM »

Forum pics inspired me to take some trips last year. I think it makes the forum richer and more interesting, but not as interesting as the syn/dino and tire threads (every 3 months).

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I'll say again, I really like the rotating images in the site header.
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« Reply #110 on: February 23, 2007, 08:40:09 AM »


I second a separate forum. I am glad Dredhead created the stickys  Thumbsup I think cameras and sport-touring go hand and hand you get to keep the memories of your ride in photos Bigsmile


Let me clarify something- My request was ignored by UFO and while I was out with Dredhead one eneving I mentioned it to him.

I dont want anybody thinking that Dred did anything but a good thing here.
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« Reply #111 on: February 23, 2007, 08:42:53 AM »

Dred did a great thing.
I will take anything I can get for the camera info I have received so much info from you guys to improve my pic taking when I ride that come summer I have 2 gigs of photos to take  Lol
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« Reply #112 on: February 23, 2007, 10:38:30 AM »


The few times I've been to big beautiful waterfalls with my camera, I've come nowhere near getting picturesque results. Are there any techniques outside of slow shutter speed and a tripod to get something good?


I would hazard simply that good light and correct exposure is the key with that shot and tricky in a situation like that. The picture you posted looked like a very long exposure, so an ND or polarizing filter would give you a few stops longer shutter without over-exposing.
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« Reply #113 on: February 23, 2007, 11:10:08 AM »

It would seem to me that slow shutter speed is not what you need here. Remember the water is rushing so the slower the shutter the more blur.

Consider faster shutter, increase iso (sensor sensitivity) and the lowest numerical f number your lens will allow and shot with the sun hitting the water. The object is to get as much light & sensitivity for a faster shutter to stop some (not all) of the water movement.

BTW this is a tough shot. You might like to try still water with landscape reflected on it.

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« Reply #114 on: February 23, 2007, 11:15:57 AM »


It would seem to me that slow shutter speed is not what you need here. Remember the water is rushing so the slower the shutter the more blur.

Consider faster shutter, increase iso (sensor sensitivity) and the lowest numerical f number your lens will allow and shot with the sun hitting the water. The object is to get as much light & sensitivity for a faster shutter to stop some (not all) of the water movement.

BTW this is a tough shot. You might like to try still water with landscape reflected on it.

My .02


I don't want more still water photos... I have plenty of those. I'm going to disagree with the faster shutter speed. Faster shutter speed will stop the water motion, and from what I can tell, the slower shutter speeds is what will increase the blur of the water, and since so much of it is rushing by, that's what will give the pseudo glowing effects.

My camera SUCKS at higher ISO, so I'm thinking the best bet is to bring a tripod, set the camera at a low ISO, low shutter speed and experiment with apertures, and do the photographing either early in the morning or dusk before it gets too bright.

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« Reply #115 on: February 23, 2007, 12:17:15 PM »

Jeff the photo looks cool I as well would like to know how this is done. None of my cameras might not be good enough to do this. I have one camera that I can adjust some settings. The link below Starved Rock I hear is a great place for photos so I have a few trips planned on going there.

http://dnr.state.il.us/lands/landmgt/parks/i&m/east/starve/park.htm

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« Reply #116 on: February 23, 2007, 12:19:46 PM »


Jeff the photo looks cool I as well would like to know how this is done. None of my cameras might not be good enough to do this. I have one camera that I can adjust some settings.


Now, I have no idea if that photo is real, but I've seen so many photos similar to that one that I think are just so neat.

I would think if you can have manual control of shutter and aperture, plus a tripod, as Fred stated earlier, that it would work. I just need to get to a waterfall that's not frozen to find out.

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« Reply #117 on: February 23, 2007, 12:50:55 PM »

Jeff look at the falls on this site look at Little Manitou Falls the water looks something like the one in the above posted pic.

http://www.wisconline.com/attractions/waterfalls.html
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« Reply #118 on: February 23, 2007, 01:11:23 PM »


Jeff look at the falls on this site look at Little Manitou Falls the water looks something like the one in the above posted pic.

http://www.wisconline.com/attractions/waterfalls.html


Exactly.
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« Reply #119 on: February 23, 2007, 07:41:10 PM »


A good resource for lens data:

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/index.php


Thanks for posting the reference - tucked in my hat for when I make the next upgrade.
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