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« Reply #100 on: January 29, 2007, 09:48:56 PM »


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« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2007, 06:51:21 AM »

I saw the new Victory at the IMC this past weekend.  I took a couple of pictures, but overall, I didn't like it very much (but didn't hate it either).  Most unusual bikes tend to grow on me.  I don't know if this one will or not.  A couple of things (others may have already addressed this): it is not shaft drive (the belt can be seen in the photos already in this thread); the engine is mounted transversely, like any other American V-twin (not a Guzzi).

The wouldn't let anyone sit on it, which I think is pretty stupid at a motorcycle show... especially when there is more than one on display.  Keep one behind the ropes to stay pretty and let people sit on the other one.  Stupid manufacturers.  Kawasaki did the same thing with the new Connie, though, they only had the one display model.

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« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2007, 09:44:28 PM »

Well, by reading all of the posts, I say Victory is succeeding at Brand 101 - create a design that will differentiate yourself from your competitors.  Will it sell?  I don't know.  What I do know is that although HD is selling 300k+ units in the USA annually, there are is a base of people whom want an American cruiser but don't want an HD.  These people are fueling Victory's industry leading growth (granted, from a small base).  
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« Reply #103 on: January 31, 2007, 03:23:39 AM »


Well, by reading all of the posts, I say Victory is succeeding at Brand 101 - create a design that will differentiate yourself from your competitors.  Will it sell?  I don't know.  What I do know is that although HD is selling 300k+ units in the USA annually, there are is a base of people whom want an American cruiser but don't want an HD.  These people are fueling Victory's industry leading growth (granted, from a small base).  


What is the reason why these people want an American cruiser?  Headscratch

It's been well documented that HD's have a list of parts, not made in the US of A.  Goldwings are all pretty much made in Ohio by American workers.  What is the difference?

This also applies to every American-made car or truck, full of foreign parts and metric fasteners.



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« Reply #104 on: January 31, 2007, 04:22:28 AM »




What is the reason why these people want an American cruiser?  Headscratch

It's been well documented that HD's have a list of parts, not made in the US of A.  Goldwings are all pretty much made in Ohio by American workers.  What is the difference?

This also applies to every American-made car or truck, full of foreign parts and metric fasteners.






It's because the company is American owned, not because of where it's built.  I'd bet that there are more Japaneese cars made here than American ones... US workers are cheaper than Japaneese workers.  Question... since when do metric fasteners have anything to do with where something is made?
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« Reply #105 on: January 31, 2007, 05:42:20 AM »

I was in NYC at the unveiling, audience response was subdued, so I am not sure how well the broad market will take to it.  I think it is one of the top 10 ugliest bikes every built.  I think it may be successful by Victory terms, based on their sales volumes, but it will not be successful across the broad market.  It will take sales away from the Goldwing and possibly some Road Glides, but that is about
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« Reply #106 on: January 31, 2007, 01:52:35 PM »




It's because the company is American owned, not because of where it's built.  I'd bet that there are more Japaneese cars made here than American ones... US workers are cheaper than Japaneese workers.  Question... since when do metric fasteners have anything to do with where something is made?


I said most vehicles have metric rather then standard fasteners.

HD's have Japanese carbs, forks, brakes, and many other bits and pieces.  My point is what is so American about them if it ain't all-American?  
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« Reply #107 on: January 31, 2007, 04:41:07 PM »

I couldn't find a picture but isn't this thing the same bike that Stalone road in Judge Dredd?  Wink
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« Reply #108 on: February 01, 2007, 06:39:08 AM »


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« Reply #109 on: February 01, 2007, 01:02:20 PM »

PC800 meets 50s Caddie meets HD Glide...  

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« Reply #110 on: February 01, 2007, 02:34:39 PM »


I couldn't find a picture but isn't this thing the same bike that Stalone road in Judge Dredd?  Wink


Nah.  You can tell because the LawMaster 4000 actually looked pretty cool.
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