One Piece Suits - New kid on the block for ~$250

[allwedrrider]

we are going to be working with select dealers and you should see Teiz gear in stores this year

[malbojah]

Hey Ghazi, I just notice that the links in your signature are formatted wrong (when someone clicks, they get a 'Can't Find Sever @ http.'

[allwedrrider]

thanks for pointing that out - i shall fix em today

[allwedrrider]

Review of the Lombard suit:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=762934

[allwedrrider]

Details on the Lombard V5:
Design & Features are exactly the same.
The main changes are fabric and materials switch. We now use authentic Cordura for a large portion of the suit (with another layer of reinforcements underneath  at critical impact points). We surveyed 300+ customers who have had the suit for more than a  year  -  based on their feedback we have made significant improvements to improve the durability. We have had to increase the price due to conditions of the economy - all our materials have gone up significantly driving our costs up. The Lombard V5 is now (just) $399.
Changes apply to the Mojave & Commute Suit as well. The Mojave is now $349 and commute stays at $299.

We have created a basic comparison chart for our suits here:
http://store.teizms.com/suit-comparison

Now .. here are the new colors for the Power Shell


Black:



 




Hi Viz:

[allwedrrider]

The Navigator Jacket and Pants:

[allwedrrider]

[allwedrrider]

[allwedrrider]

here is the new Mojave color scheme.. large stock of these suits departing the factory today. reserve yours right away:

[allwedrrider]

Power Shell first ride review
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18319227&postcount=2904

[atadaskew]

I've weighed the options very heavily; I love what you're doing with and for the community. I've referred countless people to you both on here (ST.N), on The Pace, and in personal discussion.

I'm sticking with my textile gear with waterproofing in the outer shell.

But believe me, the SECOND you come up with a one-piece with a waterproof outer shell that's not Aerostich money, I'm all over it.  

I'm with you on this.  I do not get waterproof inner liners at all. If you take them out, the suit will be too big/loose on you.  If you get caught in rain you need to take off your suit, replace the waterproof liner, puit the suit back on.  The suit, even with the liner, will absorb water.
I might as well wear my leathers and take a rain over suit.  Which is what I do.

I'll only buy another textile suit if the waterproofing is built into the shell.

[ConPilot1]

They are very good looking suit's, especially in the HiViz.

+1 on the outer shell comments.

[Mrs. DantesDame]

I'm sticking with my textile gear with waterproofing in the outer shell.

But believe me, the SECOND you come up with a one-piece with a waterproof outer shell that's not Aerostich money, I'm all over it.  

Same here!    Although I'm about to drop some $$ on a 'stitch, so it'll be quite some time before I need to buy any more gear  

[M.Brane]

I'm with you on this.  I do not get waterproof inner liners at all. If you take them out, the suit will be too big/loose on you.  If you get caught in rain you need to take off your suit, replace the waterproof liner, puit the suit back on.  The suit, even with the liner, will absorb water.
I might as well wear my leathers and take a rain over suit.  Which is what I do.

I'll only buy another textile suit if the waterproofing is built into the shell.

 Exactly! Except I won't do textiles. Leather only for me. Rain suits are cheap, and easy on-off over leathers. It works well since I don't have to completely un-suit to stay dry.  Maybe if I rode in the rain a lot I'd consider a waterproof suit, but it just doesn't make sense to me to have the waterproof layer underneath the suit itself.

[bluepoof]

Y'all are crazy to dismiss the Teiz suit just because it has waterproof liners.    

I've never found a truly waterproof shell itself; has anyone?  Serious question -- I know Olympia and Aerostitch aren't waterproof. So what's the difference between getting a Teiz and Nikwax'ing it and getting a 'stitch or Olympia/etc and Nikwax'ing it?  

Waterproof liners that are built into the shells are super hot and don't breathe.  I almost bought a Rev'It jacket for my last cross-country trip, but it was so darn hot with the liner built in.  Blecch.

To be fair, I don't use the waterproof liners in my Teiz suit (I agree with atadaskew that it's a PITA to take the suit off in the rain, put the liners in, put the suit back on).  But I have no issue at all with bringing a rain suit to toss on over the Teiz suit just like I did over my Kilimanjaro jacket and my BMW jacket and my Tourmaster jacket and my two-piece leathers.  

FWIW, the Teiz suit is not too big with the waterproof liner removed.  

Anyway, I'm biased, of course, because I love my Teiz suit and look forward to fitting into it again soon.  

[ConPilot1]

Y'all are crazy to dismiss the Teiz suit just because it has waterproof liners.    

I've never found a truly waterproof shell itself; has anyone?  Serious question -- I know Olympia and Aerostitch aren't waterproof.

BS girl except the Olympia part. Olympia shit blows if you ask me, excuse the french.  My Darien and Roadcrafter jackets have been totally waterproof. And the Darien pants. Totally. I've been in drenching frog strangling downpours and have arrived high and dry, everytime.

Yeah, the outside of the jacket is wet pretty good, but I've always stayed dry. I've done the under the highway overpass chicken dance putting on underliners/overgear. It's nice to just say fuck it and keep rolling.

That said I've also got a 35$ EXO Ebay cheap azz rain suit set that is the bomb, but cheap zippers and such. I wore that thing on a naked bike through flooding rains a couple summers ago. Poly coated nylon though, I much prefer the Gore-Tex. And I had another totally waterproof shell jacket a few years ago, a Canukian made Arctyrex jacket, but not a bike jacket by any means.

JIMHO.....

ghazi's got some nice gear here though. Glad to see his company growing. Thanks Ghazi for actually listening to your client base.  

[atadaskew]

Y'all are crazy to dismiss the Teiz suit just because it has waterproof liners.    

I've never found a truly waterproof shell itself; has anyone?  Serious question -- I know Olympia and Aerostitch aren't waterproof. So what's the difference between getting a Teiz and Nikwax'ing it and getting a 'stitch or Olympia/etc and Nikwax'ing it?  

Waterproof liners that are built into the shells are super hot and don't breathe.  I almost bought a Rev'It jacket for my last cross-country trip, but it was so darn hot with the liner built in.  Blecch.

To be fair, I don't use the waterproof liners in my Teiz suit (I agree with atadaskew that it's a PITA to take the suit off in the rain, put the liners in, put the suit back on).  But I have no issue at all with bringing a rain suit to toss on over the Teiz suit just like I did over my Kilimanjaro jacket and my BMW jacket and my Tourmaster jacket and my two-piece leathers.  

FWIW, the Teiz suit is not too big with the waterproof liner removed.  

Anyway, I'm biased, of course, because I love my Teiz suit and look forward to fitting into it again soon.  

Which is why I use leathers with a waterproof outersuit.
The leathers fit much better than any textile suit - much snugger/fitted with no flapping in the wind.
Leather actually breathes.  Leather is much more protective.  Leather is much sexier..
Plus, I don't buy the 'I can wear street clothes under my suit' argument at all, unless it is for a short commute.
If I am touring at the end of the day I want to take my leathers off, shower, put on clean clothes.  I don't want to be wearing street clothes that I have been perspiring in for the last 8 hours.  That's just gross.

[bluepoof]

If I am touring at the end of the day I want to take my leathers off, shower, put on clean clothes.  I don't want to be wearing street clothes that I have been perspiring in for the last 8 hours.  That's just gross.

Oh, yeah, agreed.  I tend to wear the same things under my textiles when touring as I did under my leather suit (wicking T-shirt, compression shorts).  The only difference is that I can fit looser shorts on under the textile pants.  

Frenchie wrote:

I'm not going to switch from my existing 2-piece kit which is surprisingly waterproof (Fieldsheer pants, Bilt jacket) to a one-piece where I know I'm giving up waterproofing.

That's just my point, though, I don't think the Teiz is any less waterproof.    To be 100% fair, I haven't ridden in it in an extended solid downpour, but for a good 20 minutes in a nice rain, I wasn't wet.  

I'm coming across as more antagonistic than I intend to -- it just seemed like the impression was that the Teiz is a sieve in the rain and that's not the case.  Even without Nikwax'ing it yet, it's been on par with my BMW Santiago or Firstgear Kilimanjaro jackets.

Blah blah, I'm rambling on the internet because I'd really rather be out riding.

[allwedrrider]

the SECOND you come up with a one-piece with a waterproof outer shell that's not Aerostich money, I'm all over it.  

i am not sure when that will happen. our focus is not on absolute waterproofing. A 100% waterproof garment requires too many compromises for when it is not raining.

I'm with you on this.  I do not get waterproof inner liners at all. If you take them out, the suit will be too big/loose on you.  If you get caught in rain you need to take off your suit, replace the waterproof liner, puit the suit back on.  The suit, even with the liner, will absorb water.
I might as well wear my leathers and take a rain over suit.  Which is what I do.

 Exactly! Except I won't do textiles. Leather only for me. Rain suits are cheap, and easy on-off over leathers. It works well since I don't have to completely un-suit to stay dry.  Maybe if I rode in the rain a lot I'd consider a waterproof suit, but it just doesn't make sense to me to have the waterproof layer underneath the suit itself.

This is actually  the Teiz philosophy as well and we don't provide waterproof liners with some of our high-end suits. Read my post here:
http://www.teizms.com/blog/2011/09/19/waterproof-jackets-and-liners/

The only reason we include inner waterproof liners with some of suits is because "that segment of customers ASKS for waterproof liners".  We provide the liners but still always recommend rain suits as a superior alternative. This particular point has been under debate several times on various forums.

One correction would be that waterproof liners do not change the fit of the suit by much.

Take a look at our Navigator & Power Shell suits. they do not come with inner waterproof liners and we recommend rain suits to be worn on top.  We also have leather touring suits which follow the same design philosophy.

[allwedrrider]

I'm biased, of course, because I love my Teiz suit and look forward to fitting into it again soon.  

  i am glad u like yr suit!!