LED BLUE LIGHTS AND THE LAW ... NOW WITH PICS

[sapperranger04]

Ok so i put some blue leds under my bike, they dont flash or anything. some people say blue is illegal, im not sure. yhis is what my state says about them,
" no person shall drive or move any vehicle or equipment upon any highway with any lamp or device thereon displaying or capable of displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front of the center thereof."

Ok so does that mean you can have blue as long as its not pointing forwards like at another vehicle, or does it mean not visible from the front at all?
HERES A COUPLE PICS



I DONT THINK ID CARE AS MUCH ABOUT TAKING THEM OFF IF I DIDNT SPEND SO MUCH TIME MAKING THEM AND WIRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER...YA KNOW

[Mr Sunshine]

Why on earth do you need blue lights on your vehicle?

And you are asking the wrong people...you need to ask a lawyer.

[sapperranger04]

Well i just figured....nevermind.....geeesh

[ZED]

Blue lights on a KLR huh.    That's a new one to me, but hey, if we all had the same shaped behind, they'd only make one kind of plastic un-comfy chair that we would all find comfy.  

Personally I would like to put green flashing beacons on my Unimog because I think it would be neat, but it's against the law here, so who am I to judge.

I would interpret that law as the blue light can't be seen from the front, not which way it points.  It is however upto the cop to care to pull you over (they don't here and I think we have a similar law but don't feel like looking it up) and to the judge if you are pulled over and ticketed.

Have fun with it, and remember, I am not a lawyer, I don't play one on T.V. and advice is often worth it's cost.  

[sapperranger04]

Blue lights on a KLR huh.    That's a new one to me, but hey, if we all had the same shaped behind, they'd only make one kind of plastic un-comfy chair that we would all find comfy.  

Personally I would like to put green flashing beacons on my Unimog because I think it would be neat, but it's against the law here, so who am I to judge.

I would interpret that law as the blue light can't be seen from the front, not which way it points.  It is however upto the cop to care to pull you over (they don't here and I think we have a similar law but don't feel like looking it up) and to the judge if you are pulled over and ticketed.

Have fun with it, and remember, I am not a lawyer, I don't play one on T.V. and advice is often worth it's cost.  

thanks for the input, i think ill run them and if i get pullrd over, ill pull the i didnt know card, and maybe hell let me go with a warnin as long as i turn them off.
i guess i should look around for colord caps. red abd blue make purple

[Mr Sunshine]

Be ready for the impersonating a police offer charge and the time in jail.

[Charles R]

Have you ever seen the underbody Neon lights that showcars often use?

The way it USED to be is that if the light SOURCE was visible, i.e. you can see the light emitting part of the bulb, it was illegal. If only the 'radiant' light was visible, i.e. the reflected glow on the street or body panels, ti was OK.

But, that was the game 15 years ago, and here in California only. The laws may have been updated, (the blue windshield spray nozzles are now specifically prohibited no matter what) or simply not applicable in any other states.

When in doubt, ask a cop. Most are friendly. And if you approach the topic as a, "I'd like to do this to be more visible to automobiles... what are the specifics I CAN'T do?" They'll usually give you a decent, "well I would pull you over IF..." type answer.
By no means is it binding, but it at least gives you a better idea of their mentality.

[Baz]

Here, only emergency vehicles can display forward facing blue or red lighting, flashing or not. Only emergency vehicles can display yellow flashing lighting (and only in extreme cases) A tow truck for instance can't have his flashing lights on while he is moving, unless he is towing a wide load & equipped with a pilot car. He can use the yellow lights while hooking up, or stopped at an accident.

You can place as many blue lights as you want on your bike, but you can't turn them on at anytime while your riding. The same goes for automobiles. The way I interpreted the way the law read was that the only thing that can be displayed on public roads were the colours spelled out in the light descriptions. Front marker lights can only be yellow, rear marker lights may only be red. (Marker lights have a 20 paragraph description) Those Blue show lights you describe would only be allowed to be on display in a private parking lot, and not a public road.

So if you are rolling down the road and Mr. police officer sees a motorcycle with blue lights (or anything other than white or yellow) coming at him, you will soon be off the road.

I learned all this one time when I commented to the City police spokeman that his Ducati's blue & red lights didn't look legal. (they had a Ducati 749 SS used for PR purposes a dealer donated for a few years)  


http://www.amemagazine.com/pastissues/AME2005april.pdf


I tried to locate our provincial site for vehicle lighting regulations, but can't seem to find it. I am sure each state or province would have different regulations, but the description I once found spelled it out pretty clear.

[2WheelTiger]

Install a switch.  If a cop flips a u-turn, switch them off and say "What blue lights?"

[zer0netgain]

I'm no expert.

IMHO, based on what the law says, you can have red and blue lights on a vehicle so long as they are not directly visible to the front or rear (e.g. accent lighting like modded show cars have).  If they flash it would be an obvious no-no because of how it would be prone to misinterpretation as police lights.

However, in some places, the authorities can be total jerks, and just having them would involve a trip to court.

If you want to do it, stick to the letter of the law (which is what the standard is), install an on/off switch so that if they offend, you can shut them off, and it's best to save such features for when you are parked because while it might enhance visibility on the road, it can also distract people.

I'm surprised those headlight modulators aren't banned on motorcycles because when you see that, many people assume you're a cop, and frankly, a MC cop will be visible by a modulating high beam before you'll see his red and blue strobes.  In spite of that, they are legal.  

[KenH]

Google.

[Zixxerpilot]

You'll fall under the laws for neon underglo, since that is essentially what it will be. Some states don't care, but a lot of them do not allow them to be on while driving, as it is seen as a "distraction" to other drivers.

Wisconsin is like this. However, I do know on bikes they tend to allow it because of the visibility factor. If I'm distracting a driver, that means they have at least seen me. Weather or not they acknowledge me is another story...

[KenH]

You'll fall under the laws for neon underglo, since that is essentially what it will be. Some states don't care, but a lot of them do not allow them to be on while driving, as it is seen as a "distraction" to other drivers.

Wisconsin is like this. However, I do know on bikes they tend to allow it because of the visibility factor. If I'm distracting a driver, that means they have at least seen me. Weather or not they acknowledge me is another story...

+1

[TuffguyF4i]

I always thought white led lights looked the best as 'under the fairing lights'.  Just my opinion.

[marc11]

You'll fall under the laws for neon underglo, since that is essentially what it will be. Some states don't care, but a lot of them do not allow them to be on while driving, as it is seen as a "distraction" to other drivers.

Wisconsin is like this. However, I do know on bikes they tend to allow it because of the visibility factor. If I'm distracting a driver, that means they have at least seen me. Weather or not they acknowledge me is another story...

Okay, but if you are distracting a driver that also means they can get into an accident with someone else and you could be held fully or partially liable.  And really, underlighting a KLR?  Really, that is the best way to bring attention to you from other drivers?    

I mean, UNDERLIGHTING A KLR    

[sapperranger04]

thank for the advide guys. ill find a leo and get there perspective....... oh by the way the lights are on my strom

[arkansawyer]

I wouldn't put blue lights on any vehicle.

There was a serial rapist in the flat area of AR a few years ago.  He had blue lights on his car and posed as a cop.  That sort of thing is why cops are so strict about blue lights, not that they are jerks.  

[Tyrroneous]

A few years ago, a friend and I were riding through a small Alabama town and cop pulled my riding partner over because he had those blue light up valve stem caps..the ones that only come on once the wheel is moving.  You CANNOT see those from the front or rear of the bike since they are directly in the center of the rim.  Anyway, cop made him remove them right then and there.  No ticket though.  

[tjhess74]

sapper, its hard to answer this question since we dont know what state youre in (at least i dont know).  every state is different.  here is sc, it used to be that you couldnt have ANY red or blue showing (back when those lighted washer nozzles on the hood were popular).  the state changed the law shortly thereafter to say if it was visible to the front, it couldt be a flashing light...steady on was generally not a problem.

overall, if the lights dont flash, and youre not riding like a moron, i doubt any officer will give you a hard time about it.  but therein lies the problem...the law is subject to interpretation...and sometimes each officer can interpret it differently.  best advice is to contact a judge/magistrate and follow their interpretation, not just any police officer you come across. the only exception to that would be a state trooper, since they are usually up to speed on equipment laws.  even then, i would ask more than one and get an 'average consensus'.

[sapperranger04]

sapper, its hard to answer this question since we dont know what state youre in (at least i dont know).  every state is different.  here is sc, it used to be that you couldnt have ANY red or blue showing (back when those lighted washer nozzles on the hood were popular).  the state changed the law shortly thereafter to say if it was visible to the front, it couldt be a flashing light...steady on was generally not a problem.

overall, if the lights dont flash, and youre not riding like a moron, i doubt any officer will give you a hard time about it.  but therein lies the problem...the law is subject to interpretation...and sometimes each officer can interpret it differently.  best advice is to contact a judge/magistrate and follow their interpretation, not just any police officer you come across. the only exception to that would be a state trooper, since they are usually up to speed on equipment laws.  even then, i would ask more than one and get an 'average consensus'.

I live in oklahoma, and one of the roads that i ride down alot usualy has a state trooper set up in a speed trap. so next time i pass by there ill swing in and ask him,,,, maybe offer him a donut ...jk.. but maybe hell give me some insite on the situation.

[CBRXXBLACKBIRD]

I know in Wi you can not have a visible blue or red light on while moving unless you are a emergency vehicle.

[Formerly Known as Bigfoot]

As a LEO I'd say you're probably asking for trouble with those lights.  As a rider I'd say it looks pretty cool.

[sapperranger04]

As a LEO I'd say you're probably asking for trouble with those lights.  As a rider I'd say it looks pretty cool.

Thanks. Im guesing that your probably right, im going to look for somthing red to put over the lights, cause red and blue make purple, so maybe that will look good to. Oh well it was worth a shot, but not worth paying a ticket over.

[Bjorn Toulouse]

Personally, I would worry less about the legalities and more about the gayness!  
But, that's just me.


Rex

[sapperranger04]

Personally, I would worry less about the legalities and more about the gayness!  
But, that's just me.


Rex

AND ITS GAY HOW?????
MORE IMPORTANTLY,, HOW DID YOU BECOME AN EXPERT ON THINGS BIENG GAY????

[FJR1300]

Personally, I would worry less about the legalities and more about the gayness!

I agree!

But, that's just me.

You're finally coming out!  Congratulations!

[Geoff]

LED lights aren't for me, but they do look cool when a bike is parked.  To avoid issues with the law, I'd leave them turned off when riding.

[dm_gsxr]

In Virginia it's illegal, full stop.

In Colorado it depends on the color. One part of the law is that the light source can't be visible too.

I did mine a little differently.



My right side wires touched the radiator so they've burned through. When I get the bike back, I'll be tracing wires and getting them working again

Carl

[Stray Cat]

I think that if these types of lights provide me with a better chance of being seen, then I don't have a problem with them.
Pay no attention to the gay comments. I know at least one other STN'r here that has them on his "busa and nobody made any "gay" comments to him about them, when he showed up at the 2007 National meet. It's just typical STN Asshatery and Internet toughguy syndrome.  

Edited to say:
Well there you go! See above post!

[1moreroad]

I know at least one other STN'r here that has them on his "busa and nobody made any "gay" comments to him about them, when he showed up at the 2007 National meet. It's just typical STN Asshatery and Internet toughguy syndrome.  

   Rocketbunny showed off hers at the CSTN to lots of compliments.

I wanted to do this, until I found out fire fighters in personal vehicles have to obey all traffic laws!

[Spiffious]

Sorry, its been confirmed.  The LED lights like that on bikes are ghey.  Worse on a v-strom.  Nobody gave folks a hard time in person so as not to offend them in person.  But, here, the truth comes out.    

[deagle10]

Years ago I bought a used car that had running blue lights along the sides.  Before I got a chance to remove them I got pulled over because of them.  

[bomber]

doode -- first, it's your bike, do what you want, but don't post on the intertubes if you're not prepared for some negative responses . . . .  

second, thanks for changing the lil gif at the end of your posts -- I'm sure the short lil caroons are supposed to amuse, prove something wonderful about you, or otherwise bring light to a dark world --- the first one ya had up did the opposite -- the present one is just, er, a use of bandwidth.

ya know?

[dm_gsxr]

doode -- first, it's your bike, do what you want, but don't post on the intertubes if you're not prepared for some negative responses . . . .  

second, thanks for changing the lil gif at the end of your posts -- I'm sure the short lil caroons are supposed to amuse, prove something wonderful about you, or otherwise bring light to a dark world --- the first one ya had up did the opposite -- the present one is just, er, a use of bandwidth.

ya know?

What? You don't like Stewie? How unAmerican  

Technically CBRXXBLACKBIRD's machine gunning smilie is larger than this guys Stewie. Just saying.

Carl

[bomber]

yeah, but at least a smiley with a Madeuce is, oh, I dunno, uncommon, yes?

[sapperranger04]

Well personaly i could care less if they like my lights, or my bike. Its my bike, and ill farkle it how I want to. I think it looks neat and im going to keep it that way unless the law says otherwise. So anyone who has a problem with my bike and contents there of can kiss my A$$.

I normaly dont get snotty on here cause theres no real point in it...All your doing when you make snod comments is proving you have nothing better to do with your pathetic life.
So any way,,where were we...oh yea. I installed a toggle switch so that way i can killem quick if i have to.


***** I went ahead and took Stewy off so i wouldnt waste extra bandwith

[bubba zanetti]

tough crowd on a Friday  

[Formerly Known as Bigfoot]

Well personaly i could care less if they like my lights, or my bike. Its my bike, and ill farkle it how I want to. I think it looks neat and im going to keep it that way unless the law says otherwise. So anyone who has a problem with my bike and contents there of can kiss my A$$.

I normaly dont get snotty on here cause theres no real point in it...All your doing when you make snod comments is proving you have nothing better to do with your pathetic life.
So any way,,where were we...oh yea. I installed a toggle switch so that way i can killem quick if i have to.

Uh oh.  

[Baz]

I am having a hard time washing mine these days so blue lights would really just emphasize the mud anyway.

[sapperranger04]

In Virginia it's illegal, full stop.

In Colorado it depends on the color. One part of the law is that the light source can't be visible too.

I did mine a little differently.



My right side wires touched the radiator so they've burned through. When I get the bike back, I'll be tracing wires and getting them working again

Carl

Nice bike, the lights look real good on it.

[Stray Cat]

I agree!



You're finally coming out!  Congratulations!

Now it's your turn!

[FJR1300]

So anyone who has a problem with my bike and contents there of can kiss my A$$.

I normaly dont get snotty on here cause theres no real point in it...All your doing when you make snod comments is proving you have nothing better to do with your pathetic life.

Posted on: April 17, 2009, 03:25:54 pm

Now it's your turn!

In your dreams!  

[dm_gsxr]

Weirdly mine have been very helpful for times when I'm touring and need to put air in the rear tire. Hit the light, rotate the tire, remove the cap, fill it up, and I don't have to fumble around for the cap, it's right there. Put it back on and I'm on my way again.

And after I installed the lights, I was down in Tucson and coming back from a 7/11. I was extra cautious coming back and spotted a couple in a car start to pull out then stop as I went by.

And I have a switch too

Carl

[sapperranger04]

I'm a firm believer that the more light you emit around you the better chance you have of someone noticing you faster. specially differant colors. every vehicle or bike on the road has the same lights, white,yellow, and red. people are so use to seeing those colors that they see you but not really register you. Now if you throw in other colors people will still see you but there going to take that extra second to see what that odd light is, therefore registering you are there..... Am i making any sense or am i just rambling on?

[Stray Cat]

Carl,
Good point. Oh wait, was that a useful tip in the thread? Careful, your sexuality might be questioned....  

I'm a firm believer that the more light you emit around you the better chance you have of someone noticing you faster. specially differant colors. every vehicle or bike on the road has the same lights, white,yellow, and red. people are so use to seeing those colors that they see you but not really register you. Now if you throw in other colors people will still see you but there going to take that extra second to see what that odd light is, therefore registering you are there..... Am i making any sense or am i just rambling on?

And another good point.

You are all the ghey!!!  

[sapperranger04]

Carl,
Good point. Oh wait, was that a useful tip in the thread? Careful, your sexuality might be questioned....  

And another good point.

You are all the ghey!!!  

Is today ghey friday or somthing.  

[sapperranger04]

Posted on: April 17, 2009, 03:25:54 pm

In your dreams!  

 

[oldenslow]

What color are the lights on your lowrider?

 

[Mookie]

Let's see,

Questionable legality?  Check.
Pretty gay (in the most non-gay sense of the word - they normally have pretty good style sense)?  Check.
Tacky?  Check.
Pointless?  Check.

Carry on my wayward son.  

[Stray Cat]

Well there you have it. DM_GXSR tested
Mookie approved!

Case closed.

[sagerat]

Being a white child of suburbia, those ground effects lights look pretty barrio to me.  My Filipino buddy from da hood has tried to educate me.  

That setup would be illegal in Orygun.

Still, if it makes you happy, Shine On, You Crazy Diamond.    

[EricJ]

Well this was a bright idea!

[Mookie]

Well there you have it. DM_GXSR tested
Mookie approved!

Case closed.

 Can't get any more settled than that  

I had a PC cooling fan with an LED on the ole' VFR R/R.  It was SWEET.  

[Windblown]

I dig the look of this type of lighting in a "Hanging out in front of Starbucks" kind of way. But then again, my ugly bikes and mug I don't hang out at Starbucks.

Can't speak for Oklahoma but I'm pretty sure this type of accent lighting is illegal in VA.  My daughter has some friends that had under car light kits and they were told they could only have them lit while parked. (Something about them being non DOT rated lights)

[dm_gsxr]

I dig the look of this type of lighting in a "Hanging out in front of Starbucks" kind of way. But then again, my ugly bikes and mug I don't hang out at Starbucks.

Can't speak for Oklahoma but I'm pretty sure this type of accent lighting is illegal in VA.  My daughter has some friends that had under car light kits and they were told they could only have them lit while parked. (Something about them being non DOT rated lights)

I used to live there and said earlier that they are illegal. It's one reason I make sure to put a switch on my bike. If the cops do pull me over, I can plead ignorance, that it's legal in Colorado and flip off the light. I'm not so hung up on the lights and don't hang out at Starbucks so it probably won't come up all that often if at all

Carl

[spd2918]

I'm a firm believer that the more light you emit around you the better chance you have of someone noticing you faster. specially differant colors. every vehicle or bike on the road has the same lights, white,yellow, and red. people are so use to seeing those colors that they see you but not really register you. Now if you throw in other colors people will still see you but there going to take that extra second to see what that odd light is, therefore registering you are there..... Am i making any sense or am i just rambling on?

The colors are important even if you never think about them.  You and other drivers can make snap driving decisions at night by the light you see.  You don't have to think about what direction the other car is going because of the standard set up.


Getting noticed by other drivers is not that tough to do with legal lights.  You can add more, add brighter, and add some to make an odd pattern.  The small, mostly inneffective lower fork mounted highway lights are legal but get you noticed because they make an uncommon pattern.  Small flashing LED brake lights are probably not legal in many states, but they are far less likely to get you a ticket than over the top purple Fast and Furious neon stuff.  Add some reflective panels on the rear, too.

Of course, there will always be brain dead morons behind the wheel.  I have investigated crashes in which people have driven into the back of full sized trucks in broad daylight.  Fooking cell phones will lead to more motorcycle deaths than any other thing but alcohol.  I can write tickets for "distracted driving" for cell phone users only if they are making driving mistakes on top of using the phones.

If you want LEO's to notice you, then by all means add the purple neon.

[Mr.Black]

I live near the town of Southbridge Ma. All the "Homeys" gots da blue neonses.

OK that may have been a little racist........
So go ahead and pop a cap in my ass!, er I mean Shoot me.

[TuffguyF4i]

I don't have any underlighting on my bike.  

But hey if you like it, then by all means enjoy it man.  I think that color blue is actually pretty nice.  

[radman]

Easy in Minnesota, everything's illegal.

[steve.m]

red abd blue make purple

blue and yellow make green, at least that way you could call your bike slimer

[Thundergod]

I always thought about a phosphorescent paint job....light green in the middle of the day-- glowing throughout the night.

Of course...NEVER on my GTS.

[sapperranger04]

I Realy like the blue light that glows around the bike at night. The real question is should i leave them on the bike for looks or take them off so i dont get busted by the man or have everyone here call me a squid. not that the squid thing realy matters tho. oh what to do, what to do.........................hmmmm what about that paint that glows in the dark   jk...might look kewl tho.

[steve.m]

Leave em on there, light em up when you're parked.  leave em off when you're riding.  Problem solved.  buy some scotchlite if you're worried about being seen.

[sleazy rider]

Back in the day, I had about 60 of them blue pods on my pearl blue GL1800, but I did a lot of other stupid shit to that bike too.  Way too much chrome pigeon doodads IMHO.  Hell, even the windshield lit up.     Now, I'm more of the functional stuff type.  If it don't make me go faster or my travel easier, it's not going on the bike.



That picture was taken when I was about half done with the installation.    It drew huge crowds while posing at rallies.  My buddy and I stopped all traffic in Lake George at Americade one night when we turned 'em on and I got invited to lead the light parade into town.  

[Orson]

I heard someone say that car guys use these lights to give the impression that the car is floating off the ground.

I just can't see it.  

Besides, trying to pull off the illusion that a Moto Guzzi is floating would be almost impossible  

[TuffguyF4i]

I have a rediculously intense red LED strobe (50leds) that faces rear on my F4i.  Its more laser beam than LED.
Hooked up to a pushbutton on the bars.  Its the generation of LEDS the leos don't even have yet.  Friends in low places.

I use it for drivers that are trying to get too friendly with my rear, or are coming up on me too quickly.  Also, in areas with super dense fog.  

[Xeraux]

I have a rediculously intense red LED strobe (50leds) that faces rear on my F4i.  Its more laser beam than LED.
Hooked up to a pushbutton on the bars.  Its the generation of LEDS the leos don't even have yet.  Friends in low places.

I use it for drivers that are trying to get too friendly with my rear, or are coming up on me too quickly.  Also, in areas with super dense fog.  

That's cool and all, but it isn't legal anywhere.  Keep your fingers crossed that the car that's following you isn't an unmarked LEO.  

[TuffguyF4i]

That's cool and all, but it isn't legal anywhere.  Keep your fingers crossed that the car that's following you isn't an unmarked LEO.  

I'll accept the risk of a fix it ticket, if it prevents me from getting run over.

[nomagnashn]

I've had LEDs in my garage for over 4 years now that I've been meaning to put on my bike (originally for the ZZR1200 I used to own).  I got the idea from Carl (dm_gsxr) back when I lived in Colorado.

One of these days, I'll get around to putting them on....  (I don't even remember what color they are any more!)  

[oddfire]

Q:  "Why on earth do you need blue lights on your vehicle?"

A:  Cuz all the Hawt Chic's dig that stuff!

[sapperranger04]

Q:  "Why on earth do you need blue lights on your vehicle?"

A:  Cuz all the Hawt Chic's dig that stuff!

danm right!

[JETSET]

FTP no offense bling bling blue  
Lets not forget about the Babes  

[looking for mileage]

Wow not gonna lie, that's a little much. But props for being ballsy enought to ride it.

[M]

Sapper,

Blue/red lights visible from the front of a vehicle in Oklahoma are illegal. If you're lucky you'll be cited for operating an improper/defective light. If it's not your day you can be cited for several more serious charges, up to impersonating a police officer - even on a motorcycle. A judge won't give you much slack, as there are now both low profile and unmarked police motorcycles in OK (mostly BMW RT-Ps)

§47-12-227
B.  Except as provided in Sections 12-218, 12-218.1, 12-228 and 12-229 of this title, no person shall drive or move any vehicle or equipment upon any highway with any lamp or device thereon displaying or capable of displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front of the center thereof.

[chornbe]

My brother put blue LEDs on his bike and has never been stopped.

I think they look garish and stupid, but opinions and all that...

[Mr.Black]

My brother put blue LEDs on his bike and has never been stopped.

I think they look garish and stupid, but opinions and all that...

uh huh.

[Hardware]

If one is serious about improving their overall conspicuity, there are way more efficient ways to do it without pushing legal envelopes like:

- a bright helmet with added 3M tape;
- bright riding gear (top & bottom) with reflective tape/piping;
- additional OEM/DOT lighting;
- a headlight modulator (if legal in your region); and
- add 3M tape to the bike.

Accent lighting just screams squid and even gang-banger in many areas.  It can attract cops,"...like a black guy riding a giant doughnut."

[M]

Headlight modulators are legal in all fifty states FMVSS 108 Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards - 49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4 and Canada Technical Standards Document No. 108, Revision 4.

I concur with the 3M Solas tape. I use it on all my cycles as supplementary reflectors.

[Mrs. Leanintree]

Holy Necro-thread...  9 months? did it just give birth?

[sapperranger04]

wow, has it already been 9 months. good thing is, lights still work great, and no cops yet.  

[ice-cycle]

Given that many American states are not very big  

and a rider can cross three or four in an easy day's ride,

and the laws obviously vary wildly from one state to the other,

how can you ever figure out what the law is?  

[spd2918]

Given that many American states are not very big  

and a rider can cross three or four in an easy day's ride,

and the laws obviously vary wildly from one state to the other,

how can you ever figure out what the law is?  

Equipment type laws are generally enforced in your home state.  For example, very dark tint on a Florida car is OK in Minnesota.

[jdub1242]

If you look closely at the package the lights came in, you will likely see fine print that says these lights are for use on show or display vehicles. Your motorcycle comes with approved lighting from the factory. Altering or adding lights of different colors is illegal. Oklahoma law allows for red or amber lights visible from the rear and white or amber from the front. Would I write you a ticket? Probably not. Some of these lights look good, just not while riding around. Good luck.

[cooter]

They don't look any bluer than the headlights on all the ricers around here.

Worst you could probably get is a "compliance" ticket. Like a burned out tail light. Fix it and it goes away.

[ConPilot1]

Blue lights on a KLR huh.

Uhhh, BTW:, It's a Strom.

[thatguy]

Attempting to be conspicuous is a waste of time and effort.People pull out in front of dump trucks every day and they're big,noisy and hard to miss.You're better off learning avoidance techniques.Unless you enjoy the pretty lights and using the visibility thing as an excuse.

[Liquidsilver]

I like women.  
 
 
 

[thatguy]

I like what they possess.

[Formerly Known as Bigfoot]

They don't look any bluer than the headlights on all the ricers around here.

Worst you could probably get is a "compliance" ticket. Like a burned out tail light. Fix it and it goes away.

Careful with this kind of advice.  Not every state has something like this.  VA will allow you to comply with law (CWL) for things such as no OL or registration in possession.  There is nothing in the law that allows you to fix something such as a light/equipment issue then expect it to be dismissed.  Not every state is the same.

[FJR1300]

Careful with this kind of advice.  Not every state has something like this.  VA will allow you to comply with law (CWL) for things such as no OL or registration in possession.  There is nothing in the law that allows you to fix something such as a light/equipment issue then expect it to be dismissed.  Not every state is the same.

I was thinking the same thing, but I figured I'd be wasting my breath.

[Formerly Known as Bigfoot]

I was thinking the same thing, but I figured I'd be wasting my breath.

You breathe with your fingers?

[FJR1300]

You breathe with your fingers?

Why else would they be in my nose?  Duh!

[spd2918]

Attempting to be conspicuous is a waste of time and effort.People pull out in front of dump trucks every day and they're big,noisy and hard to miss.You're better off learning avoidance techniques.Unless you enjoy the pretty lights and using the visibility thing as an excuse.

Do both.