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« on: June 23, 2009, 06:01:03 PM »

Just got back from a 3000 mile six day jaunt down to deals gap via the mountains in WV and then blueridge parkway on the return trip. As were riding day after day I was curious why some MC folks waved us by ( thank you who ever you are Wink) when we caught up them, and others would not move over ever Thumbsdown. We would have to wait for ever till there was a passing zone and then fly by to pass the group in the allotted leagal space.   On a few occasions even though our pace was brisk I saw headlights in my mirror and we  moved over as soon as we could do it safely, usually in less than a minute. How about you. Do you speed up,  move over , or just keep on doing what your doing . Just curious.
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2009, 06:21:51 PM »

I practice what I appreciate, courtesy & moving over for the faster traffic.
Might not happen often, but I pull to the right when straight appears and signal them to pass.
I won't up my speed to match strange rider's pace.

Once saw a [female] 'Busa rider not pull over for a faster car (... story here) and it resulted in a bit of road rage.  
Worked out OK, but it was the rider's 'fault.'  


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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2009, 06:33:36 PM »

I'll maintain my pace until I can move over, and slow down, when it is safe to do so to provide an opportunity for anyone faster to quickly pass in my lane. I don't like to compromise my/their safety by providing a too risky opportunity to pass.

On one occasion at DG, I did this, which caused us to go through about 6 - 7 corners before I managed to enable their pass, and I followed them as they pulled ahead with better acceleration on the straight sections.

I arrived at a pull-off 6 - 7 minutes later about a minute after they did (they were just finishing removing their helmets). One headed in my direction, and I figured he was pissed because I slowed them up, so I explained what I did before he could start cursing me out. He didn't say anything, but did run his hand over the bottom edge of my saddlebag commenting "It didn't drag!" and then proceeded to tell me he and his 2 friends couldn't have gotten through the section they were behind me in much faster then we did, they thought I must have dragged a bag in a couple of the corners, were singularly impressed that a Concours 10 could handle like that, and thanked me for allowing a safe pass.

And when I took off my helmet, he said "Man, an' you OLD too!!" We had a good laugh and he went back to his friends.

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 06:36:37 PM »

I just keep doing what i'm doing.  I generally ride pretty fast (I am the headlights in your mirror Lol) but would never get in the way of someone trying to pass me.  There was this one time that things almost got ugly out in Cali but that's another story. Crazy
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2009, 07:08:11 PM »

On a straight road, I just keep going straight at my same speed (in the right lane if multiple lanes).  I figure they can pass if they want to, and they usually do.  If they tailgate, I provide more encouragement for them to pass.

On a curvy road, people catch up to me so infrequently that if it does happen, I try to let them pass ASAP.  This usually involves finding a short straight stretch, slowing down gradually, pulling to the side, and waving them on.  I just wish other people would extend me this same courtesy more often!! (because on the curvy roads, I'm usually the one that's doing the catching up!)
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2009, 07:10:36 PM »

I try to move over and wave faster riders by as soon as I notice them and we get to a decent place for a pass.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2009, 07:13:13 PM »

I distinctly remember Damon (Dinolee) blowing past me on (I think) 199 en route to Fortuna for WCRM III.
I did not have time to move over.....and I'm no slouch in the twisty bits.  EEK!
Oh, well, he's a road racer....  Lol
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 07:16:56 PM »

Right away.  It's so nice of them to run up ahead to check for speed traps for me.  It's a wonderfully kind, self sacrificing service they provide for the rest of us.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2009, 07:28:36 PM »


Right away.  It's so nice of them to run up ahead to check for speed traps for me.  It's a wonderfully kind, self sacrificing service they provide for the rest of us.


+1 Bigok

 Seriously if I notice someone in my mirrors I'll make room, and wave 'em by as soon as I can do so safely.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2009, 09:48:55 PM »

As soon as I hear someone behind me and can find a place to move over I do so.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 11:32:57 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2009, 03:26:53 AM »


Right away.  It's so nice of them to run up ahead to check for speed traps for me.  It's a wonderfully kind, self sacrificing service they provide for the rest of us.
 good answer! On my trip to the  Robbinsville, Deals gap area we used FRS radios to communicate. If sombody wanted to pass I would radio my buddy in front and let him know  "We had a rabbit" betwen them and mt radar detector we could safely maintain speeds way above the posted and enjoy it.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2009, 04:13:11 AM »

As soon as I notice someone I try to get over and let them pass safely.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2009, 04:32:44 AM »


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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2009, 05:01:28 AM »

i move over when im movin slow cause i know when im moving fast, its nice when people let you by as to not mess with your pass. i find harley riders will not move over. must be the ego that comes with the chrome or something  Headscratch
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2009, 05:15:26 AM »

As soon as I reach a straight section.  If it's a short section, I'll slow down after I move right so the other rider can get by before the next corner.  This usually leads to my own frustration because the rider will blast by then park it in the next corner because they got on the throttle so hard to pass me.  But if they really are going faster they'll only screw up one corner.

I will take/use my whole lane in the corner because it's safest for everyone.  We don't have X-ray vision, and we can't see what's around the corner.
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2009, 06:13:46 AM »


i move over when im movin slow cause i know when im moving fast, its nice when people let you by as to not mess with your pass. i find harley riders will not move over. must be the ego that comes with the chrome or something  Headscratch


I've found the same thing but it seems that it's less ego and more oblivion.  Occasionally, we'll encounter an (.) ^  that will try to prevent the pass but for the most part, they just don't seem to check their mirrors or even consider the possibility that someone could want to get by them.  When they realize that there are 3 or 4 of us that want to get by, they'll usually wave us on.  But they need to know we're there first and that's more often the challenge.  

On this last trip we got stomped by some guy on a cruiser...going through the viaduct where the speed limit is 35 and we never speed.  This guy was being a tool and I made no special provisions for him because it was a ridiculous place to pass.  He went anyway in a blind turn at the most inappropriate speed and incredibly high volume pipes.  I would love to hear how that story gets relayed to his buddies.   Rolleyes

I don't recall being passed by too many folks but I'd let them by pretty quick as there is room.  2 guys on track bikes went by me on the gap once in the other lane and I never knew they were back there.  They were fast but in an annoying using the whole road kind of way.  
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2009, 06:26:25 AM »

I move over if they can just keep up too.  I don't want a race situation developing.  Nothing will make a rider stupid faster than that.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2009, 06:43:12 AM »

I let everyone pass.

I had a guy on a cruiser (honda) catch up to me in the straights and then brake like hell on every turn.  Eventually, i got really sick of it.  Looked at the gps, saw a good bunch of twisties coming up.  He eventually caught up again on a long straight and i didn't feel obligated to let him pass.  He apparently didn't think it was worth it either since he didn't pass.
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2009, 06:52:40 AM »




I've found the same thing but it seems that it's less ego and more oblivion.    


I've run emergency lights and had people react by slamming on their brakes in front of me when they notice I've been following them for a 1/2 mile.

We've had fire trucks running full lights, sirens, and air horns stuck behind pick-em-ups with the windows rolled down for miles on twisty roads because the driver didn't notice.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2009, 07:09:33 AM »

Wow, I guess this is news to me.  I've never given this a thought so I guess that makes me one of the idiots that rides along and looks as if I haven't checked my mirrors in miles.  However, I am always watching because I checked my mirrors constantly.  It just never occurred tome that you would want me to wave you by.  I just expected that if you wanted to pass you would do so in a legal manner using the available lanes.

Please excuse my ignorance and allow me the opportunity to learn.  Is this considered good road manners?  Hummm...I guess I haven't had this happen to me very much and the people that have come up behind me appear to be more reckless than competent.

I confess, this just never occurred to me,  duh...
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 07:16:24 AM »

I move to the right on a bike if someone comes up on me fast but keep my speed. I also move over in my car if I am on a mountain road and slowing others. There is nothing worse than some kook causing a train up a good road no matter what they are on or in. Crazy
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2009, 07:25:22 AM »

Riding the dirt roads in Costa Rica, we let everyone pass:  tour buses, cars, motos, whatever.  The bridges are all one lane and I want something else as a blocker before we crossed.

For the most part, since we toddled along in first and second gear, I'd just yell at Maggie (horn broken) and we'd pull over, waving the car through.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2009, 07:27:37 AM »


  I just expected that if you wanted to pass you would do so in a legal manner using the available lanes.


 Lol  Welcome to STN where we're all convinced we pass in a safe manner, legal or not.

Seriously, when it's obvious someone will be passing on a straight, legal or not, I always move to the right as far as is safely possible to minimize the risk for everyone.

I don't wave anyone by -- it's up to them to make a safe pass.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2009, 07:34:24 AM »

Well, I'll be the dissenting voice here.  I f'n hate it when people move over for me--especially in cars (or trucks pulling travel trailers) when they'll pull over onto the dirty shoulder, spitting gravel and raising clouds of dust...I've had a number of riders pull to the right and wave me to pass, but dammit, I don't like passing in the same lane, and I don't wanna pull out unless I think it's safe to do so.

I prefer if those I'm following and planning to pass just ignore me; I'll pass when I want, never fear, but I want to be the judge of that.  People waving me to pass around blind corners?  Uh, no...I'll wait.  If it's straight and clear, no need to pull over--I can use the opposite lane, like I'm supposed to.

If someone comes up behind me, I ignore them...they can pass when THEY think it's safe.  I'll usually slow down when they do decide to pass, to help them pass quickly, but move over?  Uh, no...they can use the passing lane--I don't like people passing in my lane.  (I did have a guy pass me once ON THE RIGHT, in my lane--on a section of highway that was long and straight, dotted centerline, no oncoming traffic.  What a dolt!  Had I moved right to let him by, we would have collided Rolleyes )

I tend to ride at a reasonable speed on the straights, but I don't slow down much (sometimes I speed up) for the twisties.  It is annoying to have guys pass me on the straights but then I'm immediately on their tail in the twisties.  If ya wanna lead, lead...but if you pass me, then dammit, keep ahead!

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2009, 07:35:01 AM »

I let faster riders by as soon as they get behind me. I pull to the far ride side of the lane and wave them past. Of course I then usually try to keep up with them Smile.
I hate it when other won't let you pass, specially if they are going under the speed limit. It worst here during the rally, there will be 10-20 bikes all poking along at 10-15mph uner the limit and they won't let you pass. I usually give them 5 minutes or so, then start passing, pulling into thier formation at the end of the passing zone. it usually pisses them off, but that's thier problem. I don't understand why they think their group should be considered as one vehicle instead of individuals?? They do the same at stop signs/lights, one goes through they all do? At least my throttle hand and middle finger get plenty of exercise that week Wink
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2009, 07:43:30 AM »

Once I notice you (usually pretty quick) I move to the right portion of the lane and slow a bit till you're past. Motorcycle passing motorcycle usually can be done in one lane if the slower rider knows the other rider is back there and lets them pass.
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2009, 07:53:59 AM »

About 30 minutes into the Hines/Burns to Vale stretch this past Friday, I noticed a white SUV coming up fairly fast. Thought it might be LEO as I was doing 75mph behind a yellow Subaru compact on a 55mph road.

Turned out to be a Cadillac Escalade doing 90mph. Motioned for it to pass me. It did then after it got around the Subaru, I did likewise and kept the Escalade in sight for awhile (bait!).

Am visually aware of my surroundings while on the road so getting ambushed by faster traffic is pretty rare especially out on the backroads.

I will not masquerade as a rolling obstacle for any other vehicle and will motion for them to pass when safe.

Can be challenging when stuck behind a group of Harleys/metric cruisers as the "road captain" and "tailgunner" are more focused on keeping the herd together as opposed to letting faster traffic by.

The larger the group, the more likely it is that they won't give a flip about any vehicles queued-up behind them.

While in Lakeview on Sunday, June 14th, we saw 5 Harleys cut west on 140 from southbound 395 while getting ourselves ready to hit the road.

Took 5+ minutes before we hit the road after them. The combo of rainstorms and other vehicles on road btw them and us consumed about one hour before we spotted them in the distance.

They were actually moving along at a good clip, and were passing a slower cager when we caught-up with them. My bud decided not to pass them as their pace was fast enough for him with just a few miles left til we reached Klamath Falls.
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Well, I'll be the dissenting voice here.  I f'n hate it when people move over for me--especially in cars (or trucks pulling travel trailers) when they'll pull over onto the dirty shoulder, spitting gravel and raising clouds of dust...I've had a number of riders pull to the right and wave me to pass, but dammit, I don't like passing in the same lane, and I don't wanna pull out unless I think it's safe to do so.

I prefer if those I'm following and planning to pass just ignore me; I'll pass when I want, never fear, but I want to be the judge of that.  People waving me to pass around blind corners?  Uh, no...I'll wait.  If it's straight and clear, no need to pull over--I can use the opposite lane, like I'm supposed to.

If someone comes up behind me, I ignore them...they can pass when THEY think it's safe.  I'll usually slow down when they do decide to pass, to help them pass quickly, but move over?  Uh, no...they can use the passing lane--I don't like people passing in my lane.  (I did have a guy pass me once ON THE RIGHT, in my lane--on a section of highway that was long and straight, dotted centerline, no oncoming traffic.  What a dolt!  Had I moved right to let him by, we would have collided Rolleyes )

I tend to ride at a reasonable speed on the straights, but I don't slow down much (sometimes I speed up) for the twisties.  It is annoying to have guys pass me on the straights but then I'm immediately on their tail in the twisties.  If ya wanna lead, lead...but if you pass me, then dammit, keep ahead!




That's how I am too. I do pass in the same lane if the person in front of me moves over but I'm never really comfortable doing so. If someone comes up behind me then I'll keep riding my ride and let them figure out when to pass me. If they're moving fast enough to catch us in the twisties then they're skilled enough to know how to pass safely.

But I always move to the right lane on four lane roads so that folks can pass me.

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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2009, 09:31:54 AM »




If someone comes up behind me, I ignore them...they can pass when THEY think it's safe.  I'll usually slow down when they do decide to pass, to help them pass quickly, but move over?  Uh, no...they can use the passing lane--I don't like people passing in my lane.  (I did have a guy pass me once ON THE RIGHT, in my lane--on a section of highway that was long and straight, dotted centerline, no oncoming traffic.  What a dolt!  Had I moved right to let him by, we would have collided Rolleyes )


I always assume my skills are better then theirs and i'm a safer rider, until proven otherwise.  If they want to come up screaming behind me, thats cool, but i can help control their pass by indicating to them, when i'm comfortable.  That decreases the chance of them passing when i'm uncomfortable with them doing so.  
Many times when the guy is quicker then me, I want him infront of me.  Maybe i can steal some riding pointers.  Smile  

I think its good for both parties and have never had a bad situation arise from someone/myself waving a pass.
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« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2009, 10:56:32 AM »

I always move over for faster traffic. Had a fat pirate go into the on coming lane one time to prevent my group from passing at all! Dumba$$  
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« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2009, 11:04:16 AM »


I always move over for faster traffic. Had a fat pirate go into the on coming lane one time to prevent my group from passing at all! Dumba$$  


Yea, seems to be a favorite technique of the more advanced pirates. It has occasionally led me to lose my sense of self preservation and just do the weave through thier formation, get in front, flip em off and disappear.....damn I hate those idiots. I suppose I *should* just pull over and let them get far enough ahead that I don't have to deal with them, but sometimes Wink
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« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2009, 11:04:36 AM »


 fat pirate  Dumba$$  


You can say that again.

Almost forgot, I move over as soon as possible.
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« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2009, 11:52:28 AM »


I always move over for faster traffic. Had a fat pirate go into the on coming lane one time to prevent my group from passing at all! Dumba$$  


I've encountered that numerous times, especially with their 'parades'.  They also do that on the freeway, hogging several lanes, riding slow.

Then again, there are plenty of videos on u-tube of stunters shutting down entire freeways in rush hour so they can pull wheelies an' stuff.  But the pirate thing is much more common.
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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2009, 12:09:28 PM »

Immediately.   I really appreciate it from those that do the same for me.  
 
 

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That pr!ck will get a fuggin MotoGP pass from me, up his right armpit, so close he'll forget what side of the road he's on.  Very few situations on the road get me tweaked, but that one would get me every time.   And if he finds me later on the road, he'd better have a big biker chain and lots of BB's.   I guess he'd better have some jiu jitsu as well.
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2009, 12:24:24 PM »


Immediately.   I really appreciate it from those that do the same for me.  
 
 

 
That pr!ck will get a fuggin MotoGP pass from me, up his right armpit, so close he'll forget what side of the road he's on.  Very few situations on the road get me tweaked, but that one would get me every time.   And if he finds me later on the road, he'd better have a big biker chain and lots of BB's.   I guess he'd better have some jiu jitsu as well.
 
 
 
 



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« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2009, 12:58:20 PM »


 I just expected that if you wanted to pass you would do so in a legal manner using the available lanes.




I'm sure a lot of people go along thinking this......till they get their tower buzzed by some local tired of waiting for the wave.


In the south, we typically say to that: "You ain't from round here ARE you BOY" and excuse it.

If I'm really getting into the zone, and moving at a good clip, I think nothing of blazing past a car/truck/bike/liquor-cicle at warp speed (if I can see VERY clearly around them and there is no doubt nothing is coming) and continuing to roll.......because I'm a hoon.......but then there are times I'd never think of doing that. I have no idea what controls the urge. But if I'm getting the press from someone behind me I won't get OFF the road, but I'll hug the white line and wave them past (as to not kick up gravel...etc)

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« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2009, 01:07:51 PM »


Wow, I guess this is news to me.  I've never given this a thought so I guess that makes me one of the idiots that rides along and looks as if I haven't checked my mirrors in miles.  However, I am always watching because I checked my mirrors constantly.  It just never occurred tome that you would want me to wave you by.  I just expected that if you wanted to pass you would do so in a legal manner using the available lanes.

Please excuse my ignorance and allow me the opportunity to learn.  Is this considered good road manners?  Hummm...I guess I haven't had this happen to me very much and the people that have come up behind me appear to be more reckless than competent.

I confess, this just never occurred to me,  duh...
The only time it really bothers me is in the twisites. I don't really care if I go fast on the straits, that's where the radar trap are. So if I get on a road that has hundreds of gorgeous curves and no passing zones it can really Suck being held back by somebody who slows down for every corner and kills the enjoyment I get of "flowing" through the turns. Some folks get it and pull over and others are happy to hold you up, especially the  gay pirates Hanging from their jungle Gym..
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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2009, 01:10:45 PM »


Had a fat pirate go into the on coming lane one time to prevent my group from passing at all! Dumba$$  


He'll prolly get out of the way if you're carrying something
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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2009, 01:28:10 PM »


 ...So if I get on a road that has hundreds of gorgeous curves and no passing zones it can really Suck being held back by somebody who slows down for every corner and kills the enjoyment I get of "flowing" through the turns. Some folks get it and pull over and others are happy to hold you up...

So, pass 'em.  What, you gotta wait for their OK to blow past?  Who says THEY know better than you do where it's safe?

I've had people pull over for me in the absolutely most unsafe spots...blind corners, gravel on the road, etc.  Fer chrissakes, just DRIVE!  Keep it on the road, don't worry about me, I'll pass when I think it's safe, dammit!

Those of you suggesting that anyone not pulling over is intentionally holding up traffic, get over it!  Yes, people pass me--not too often, and usually on the straights--if they're on my ass in the twisties, then they're better riders than I am and can decide for themselves when it's safe to pass.  When I come up behind slower traffic, I assess the situation, and pass--or not--when it's safe.  When I feel it's safe.  I don't want Joe Motorhomerentaldriver deciding when it's safe for me to pass him, pulling onto the shoulder and showering me with gravel and dust...I don't want Mr. Wingenbanger waving me to pass him on a blind corner, in his lane, with a logging truck coming the other way just out of sight...

If you're in front of me, just ignore me and I'll get by when I'm ready.  If you come up behind me, you can pass me in the passing lane, when there's no oncoming traffic.  You're a big boy, you don't need me to tell you when to pass (and fer gossake, DON'T pass me then slow down to a lower speed than I was originally travelling!).  

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« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2009, 01:54:23 PM »

I move to the right side of the lane, slowly roll off the gas and wave them by at the first safe spot as soon as I see riders in my rear view. It's what I wish other riders would do for me. I don't want to pass on a corner, but will gladly pass (or be passed) on a short straight between corners when it's safe.
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So, pass 'em.  What, you gotta wait for their OK to blow past?  Who says THEY know better than you do where it's safe?

I've had people pull over for me in the absolutely most unsafe spots...blind corners, gravel on the road, etc.  Fer chrissakes, just DRIVE!  Keep it on the road, don't worry about me, I'll pass when I think it's safe, dammit!

Those of you suggesting that anyone not pulling over is intentionally holding up traffic, get over it!  Yes, people pass me--not too often, and usually on the straights--if they're on my ass in the twisties, then they're better riders than I am and can decide for themselves when it's safe to pass.  When I come up behind slower traffic, I assess the situation, and pass--or not--when it's safe.  When I feel it's safe.  I don't want Joe Motorhomerentaldriver deciding when it's safe for me to pass him, pulling onto the shoulder and showering me with gravel and dust...I don't want Mr. Wingenbanger waving me to pass him on a blind corner, in his lane, with a logging truck coming the other way just out of sight...

If you're in front of me, just ignore me and I'll get by when I'm ready. If you come up behind me, you can pass me in the passing lane, when there's no oncoming traffic.  You're a big boy, you don't need me to tell you when to pass (and fer gossake, DON'T pass me then slow down to a lower speed than I was originally travelling!).  


Sorry I disagree. Its safer when you Both know that you are passing and they are expecting you too. especially in the example I gave where its all corners. If they don't pull over and know you are going to pass them where can you do it safely?  blind corners?  Short straits with no passing?  So that was you I was following. Don't those ape hangers bother your circulation? Smile
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Those of you suggesting that anyone not pulling over is intentionally holding up traffic, get over it!  



I was referring to people intentionally holding up traffic (ie. riders in the driving and passing lane going the same speed). They are dicks and I treat them as such.
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« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2009, 04:43:32 PM »

A bit off topic but... on a recent trip, we were heading south towards Lakeview, Oregon - some very long, straight, boring stretches. We were doing about 75-ish and I think it's a 55 zone. A big shiny pickup came up behind us at great speed but then wouldn't pass but stayed uncomfortably close. We pulled just over to the right half of our lane and waved the drive by. He wouldn't move. We slowed down and waved him by again. After a few more times, he finally passed, slowed down and screamed something and waved a fist at me. Go figure. I guess he thought I'd be his rabbit and I didn't want to play his game.

Normally, I'm happy to pull to the right of my lane when it's safe for a following driver to pass, and wave them by. I almost always get a friendly wave in return.
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« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2009, 07:42:00 PM »


 Sorry I disagree. Its safer when you Both know that you are passing and they are expecting you too. especially in the example I gave where its all corners. If they don't pull over and know you are going to pass them where can you do it safely?  blind corners?  Short straits with no passing?  So that was you I was following. Don't those ape hangers bother your circulation? Smile

My point is, I've had people pull over and expect me to pass in places that are NOT safe--blind corners, etc.  I'm not gonna pass 'em there, thanks...I'm not in such a hurry I can't wait for a safe place ("safe" depends on a lot of factors).  It's annoying to have the guy ahead slowing down and pulling over in a place where I'm simply not gonna pass him...if he'd just drive, we'd get to a safe passing spot that much more quickly (and I wouldn't get showered with dirt from the shoulder).

Rather than expecting someone ahead of me to pull over for me, I plan my passes for spots where I can blow past them safely.  Part of that includes NOT passing in their lane, but passing at a location where I can move completely into the passing lane.  I much prefer to be in control of when/where I'm gonna pull out than some stranger who happens to be driving ahead of me.
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« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2009, 07:54:53 PM »


I was referring to people intentionally holding up traffic (ie. riders in the driving and passing lane going the same speed). They are dicks and I treat them as such.

Agreed.

Had a situation today, driving my cage into town.  I was in a long train of traffic following a very slow motorhome.  There is a short passing lane, and with the motorhome in the slow lane, traffic started passing.  Suddenly, a school bus--full of kids, BTW--pulls out of the slow lane (it had been following the motorhome) to make the pass.  The end of the lane is coming up, and the schoolbus driver decides he's not gonna make it, so he hits the brakes.  Meanwhile, the motorhome driver hits the brakes, hoping to let the bus past before he has to merge.  Both these vehicles are now on the brakes, neither is willing to move ahead, and the entire train of traffic (yes, there were still a lot of cars behind them) slows to a near stop.  Finally, the motorhome edges back onto the road, followed by the schoolbus...it didn't end there, the schoolbus driver continued to drive like a dick for a while yet until he finally pulled out to pass (again, cutting off other traffic also trying to pass).  I finally got by...only to be stuck in another train of traffic behind Mr. Righteous Harley Rider Rolleyes  Oh, well...had I been riding, I would have been on the back road and would have missed all the drama...serves me right!
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« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2009, 08:46:37 PM »

I appreciate a wave to pass, lets me know the rider/driver up front has seen me and has figured out I'm coming through. But I hardly expect it, and I pick when I want to make my move. After all, it's always the passers job to do so safely.

As for waving others around? Hmmm... Last time I was passed I was railing up a twisty mountain side on the DR-Z with a GSX-R 600 chasing me. He managed to squeek by me on a corner exit.  I didn't wave him past but in no way was offended. He didn't wave me by when I passed him back going into a hard right hander on the way back down the other side of the mountain.  LOL

We'll pulled off together at the bottom of the mountain intoduced ourselves to one another and had a good laugh about it.  Bigok

Some folks get all bent out of shape when they get passed, I've been cussed, honked at, had a pick-up truck or two swerve into the oncoming lane in an attempt to block me, had a beer bottle chucked at me once, and had some cruiser rider approach me at a rest stop to let me know I had passed him.  Whatever.  Twofinger  Lol

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« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2009, 04:30:48 PM »

I love to get passed.  Some one closes in on me and I let them by ASAP.
I don't wave, but if the road is twisty I'll cut deep to the inside of a righthander and stay off the gas coming out of a curve.

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« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2009, 06:49:51 PM »

I am more than happy to let faster riders pass.  Unfortunately, when I am focused on herding the Battlestar Galactica through the curves as gracefully (and quickly) as possible, I am not always aware of those who come up quickly behind me.  For this, I apologize to all you fellow road burners.

Just got back from the COG rally at Fontana Village the first week of June; and had plenty of time while there in the mountain twisties to play, and usually I was the guy in somebody else's mirrors.  Lots of drivers/riders waved me around, a few did not- they got the fumes when it was safe.  On one run up 129, though, I came around a blind left rise that then descends into a dished out right hairpin; just as I got around the curve to the left and started down into the wash, I was buzzed by a small rider in full leathers on a ZX-7 or similar who I swear to God looked like he was shot out of a slingshot coming out of the right hairpin, he was going that fast.  Now, I have no idea how long he was behind me but I got the clear impression he wasn't there long, and knew the road like the back of his hand.  But, I still felt bad that it caught me totally unawares and I had no idea how long he had been back there.  Much less made it easier for him to get on with his ride. Sad  Note to self: 360° awareness applies to twisties as well as city streets. Nuts
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« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2009, 07:27:59 PM »

On todays ride I didn't get passed, but I passed 3 other bikes. A woman on a Harley, a guy on a sport bike and an old guy on a HD. Both HD riders pulled to the right side of their lane before I was within a couple hundred feet of them and motioned me by. They both gave a friendly wave (which I returned) as I passed. I stayed about 40' behind the sportbike guy for about a mile and he never knew I was there. When I did pass he seemed to be surprised I was there? I also had two cars and a truck pull over to let me pass, all in all a pleasant ride Smile
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« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2009, 07:34:31 PM »

I move over as fast as I can and swear I am selling my sons dirtbike and buying me a supermotard so I can pass people .
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« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2009, 09:15:27 PM »


I move over as fast as I can and swear I am selling my sons dirtbike and buying me a supermotard so I can pass people .


nice!  Lol

I'll just wave you by then when the time comes.

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« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2009, 11:05:13 PM »

The one error a good deal of riders make that I have noticed is that they will climb on a cages bumper, which usually causes the cage driver to just want to let him by and be done with him. I usually hang back a bit until it is safe to pass the car ahead of me.


In the case of a faster rider, I will move over when it is safe for him to pass, and it's safe for me to move over.
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