Pages: 1 [2] 3 4  All   Go Down
Print
Author

Topic: Myth busted: Jump-starting your bike from a car battery  (Read 2398 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
1KPerDay
The Avocado of Death

Offline Offline

Posts: 7740

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2009, 06:14:37 pm »
Does anyone understand what this duck is saying?  Headscratch
Logged
BOOM! "I love you." "Make my lunch." SCREECH! BOOM!
--DogBoy
Members, please login to hide this ad.

Guests, please register to hide this ad.
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2009, 06:14:37 pm »
 Logged
black hills

Offline Offline

Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 3534

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2009, 06:26:27 pm »
Quote from: Leanintree on June 30, 2009, 12:29:48 pm



Oh, and given a choice, not off of a pickup, particularly a 3/4-1ton that might be packing a spare battery in series. Always jump a bike off of the smallest battery available.
backfire  Embarassment

Leanintree


Umm..that would be a 24v system wouldn't it??
Logged
'03 CBR954rr '00KTM300exc
On a journey of one hundred miles ninety is but half way.
black hills

Offline Offline

Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 3534

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2009, 06:50:42 pm »
Quote from: Heaven Bound on June 30, 2009, 06:29:05 pm

He meant to say in parallel...but you are correct, series would make it 24v.


Yes, you are correct Smile
on the other hand it doesn't matter if it has 1,2, or 10 batteries. As long as they are connect parallel and the engine is not running you are going to get somewhere between 12-13 volts. 12 volts is 12 volts Wink (remembering that if the engine is running you are running somewhere around 14+ Smile) It's really not as magical as it seems.
Logged
'03 CBR954rr '00KTM300exc
On a journey of one hundred miles ninety is but half way.
PhilBiker
HOV Commutosaurus

Offline Offline

Motorcycles: '95 Kawasaki GPz-1100
Posts: 1141

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2009, 06:08:24 am »
I wasted the rectifier in my bike by jumping from running cars.  It's not a myth to me.
Logged
PhilBiker
Doug Just Doug
Gabba Gabba Huh?
*
Offline Offline

Contributed: '06, '08, '09
Motorcycles: 2003 Kawasaki ZR-7S
Location: Newark, Delaware
Posts: 723

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2009, 07:52:36 am »
Quote from: 1KPerDay on June 30, 2009, 06:14:37 pm

Does anyone understand what this duck is saying?  Headscratch


Yes, but I'm fluent in Ork. Zener Zener!
Logged
Check the Ride Calendar and Product Reviews on Tilted Horizons!

Follow my moto-tweets on Twitter.
thatguy

Offline Offline

Motorcycles: a few
Location: Aintree
Posts: 3338

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2009, 07:58:04 am »
I've replaced a few ECMs that died coincidentally  Rolleyes  when they attached a jumper cable from a running car.Do yourself a favor when jumping an FI bike.Attach the cables with the bikes ignition off and the ECM fuse disconnected.ECMs are not cheap.
Logged
"Speak when you are spoken to,but don't pretend you are right.............."
Zerosum

Offline Offline

Motorcycles: '88 Hawk GT, '97 VFR750, '06 V-Strom 650
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2579

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2009, 08:42:42 am »
Quote from: thatguy on July 01, 2009, 07:58:04 am

I've replaced a few ECMs that died coincidentally  Rolleyes  when they attached a jumper cable from a running car.Do yourself a favor when jumping an FI bike.Attach the cables with the bikes ignition off and the ECM fuse disconnected.ECMs are not cheap.


Will a modern FI bike even start withouth the ECM?  Headscratch  ECM stands for Engine Control Module, right?
Logged
Riding a motorcycle is perfectly safe.  And if I'm wrong, may my body be horribly crushed and mangled somehow.
thatguy

Offline Offline

Motorcycles: a few
Location: Aintree
Posts: 3338

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2009, 09:17:27 am »
No they won't.Yes it does.I meant only during the connection phase.You'll need to reinstall the fuse to start it.Every training class I've attended stresses voltage spikes,no matter how small the total can be fatal to an ECM.
Logged
"Speak when you are spoken to,but don't pretend you are right.............."
EricD10563
Junior Member

Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 2009 Harley Road King FLHR
Location: Hawaii for now
Posts: 77

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2009, 12:50:09 pm »
Car not running never had a problem been doing it for years. I don't think there is a need for the car to be running, plenty of juice with a car battery.
Logged
Former New Yorker now living in Hawaii. CB750F SOHC(sold), V65 Sabre(sold) and an 09 Road King.
my old 750
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs199.snc1/6731_1108398027788_1161930161_30277247_5886240_n.jpg
Here is a picture of my old beast V65
http://kauaiultralight.com/WebPost1730.jpg
my new ride
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs252.snc1/9916_1141658659283_1161930161_30360385_2327189_n.jpg
UFO
*
Offline Offline

Contributed: Not enough apparently
Posts: 7519

My Photo Gallery
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2009, 02:45:58 pm »
Okay, lots of talk about jumping using a running car?

Who here (raise your hand) thinks this makes ANY sense to do?  Bueller?  Your car isn't designed such that the engine needs to be running to...start its own engine!  Lmao

Just hook it up to a car battery, start the damn bike, disconnect.  End of thread. Lol  Sheesh.
Logged
Neal
1KPerDay
The Avocado of Death

Offline Offline

Posts: 7740

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2009, 02:46:43 pm »
Or ride your bike often enough to keep the battery charged. Or buy a battery tender. Lol
Logged
BOOM! "I love you." "Make my lunch." SCREECH! BOOM!
--DogBoy
basco

Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 09 BMW R1200 GSA
Location: Castle Rock, CO
Posts: 3229

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2009, 05:04:42 pm »
Or push start it.
Logged
STN Nationals: 09, 08, 06
ESTN: 07, 05, 04
R4: 04, 05
R3: 08
Leanintree
I'm THE Ad-bot...
*
Online Online

Contributed: '09
Motorcycles: '95 GPZ1100, '87 CBR600F
Location: Freezing in Western Colorado
Posts: 2466

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2009, 07:36:52 pm »
Quote from: basco on July 01, 2009, 05:04:42 pm

Or push start it.


That's REALLY not as much fun as it sounds if you happen to ride a boat-anchor...
Logged
'95 GPZ1100- The Almighty Geeper
'87 CBR600F- Thermonuclear Cupcake
black hills

Offline Offline

Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 3534

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2009, 07:43:15 pm »
Quote from: Leanintree on July 01, 2009, 07:36:52 pm



That's REALLY not as much fun as it sounds if you happen to ride a boat-anchor...


Not sure what qualifies as a boat anchor, but I've had no trouble bump starting the following:

V45Magna
VFR
VTX1800
CBR954
Logged
'03 CBR954rr '00KTM300exc
On a journey of one hundred miles ninety is but half way.
Mr Sunshine
Perfecto!
*
Offline Offline

Contributed: '06, '09
Motorcycles: 2002 KTM 400EXC (w/ plate), 1999 Zuma 70cc, 2003 SV650 Superbike (race)
Location: Redmond, Wa
Posts: 6058

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2009, 08:57:28 pm »
Quote from: 1KPerDay on June 30, 2009, 10:39:31 am

If I have to jump from a car battery I do it with the car not running. The battery alone will have enough juice to jump the bike. Someone told me once there's less chance of trouble this way; dunno if it's true but I have perpetuated that belief.


Doesn't matter...I'd do it with the car running so I can make sure to recharge my car battery so I can start it later.
Logged
http://www.burgiracing.com
1KPerDay
The Avocado of Death

Offline Offline

Posts: 7740

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2009, 08:40:58 am »
Quote from: Mr Sunshine on July 01, 2009, 08:57:28 pm



Doesn't matter...
sez you...
Logged
BOOM! "I love you." "Make my lunch." SCREECH! BOOM!
--DogBoy
Scoop
Born meat, will die meat.
*
Offline Offline

Contributed: '06, '10
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
Posts: 1303

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2009, 10:00:45 am »
I was a bit concerned about jumping my new R1200RT as I figured that any BMW must have some sort of sensitive electronic something that will fry if shown booster cables.  But the manual has only a one-liner warning, "jump from a battery with the same voltage as the bike".  So, as has been said, there should be no issues jumping a bike from a 12 v system.  But, as has also been said, a running car will be putting out about 15.2 v and could cause some issues.  If you are worried, you can always take the "surface charge" off of a car battery by turning on the lights or running the fan motor for a second before you hook the battery up to your bike.  This will pretty much ensure that you are boosting with 12 volts.  
Logged
"Gender Box"...Rocketbunny
"I get winning, try more next"...Yukio Kagiyama
"Just because you're in front doesn't mean you're winning the race".Rossi
"You are who you pretend to be"...Mugwump58
"Well, if you are going to dress funny it is not reasonable to expect people not to laugh"....County
 
Hurry up and die, my chicken's getting cold
radman
Weapon of Mass Dysfunction
*
Offline Offline

Contributed: '08
Motorcycles: 05 FJR, 68 X6
Location: Lakeville,Mn
Posts: 662

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2009, 12:10:19 pm »
Quote from: 1KPerDay on June 30, 2009, 06:14:37 pm

Does anyone understand what this duck is saying?  Headscratch


Yup.  And I agree with him, especially on ECM equipped bikes.  Even cars are more and more susceptible to over-volts from car starting units-a fact of life in the Great White North.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2009, 12:12:54 pm by radman » Logged
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.
Uncle Bob
turbo passion

Offline Offline

Location: Seattle, wa
Posts: 753

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2009, 08:07:55 pm »
at the bike shop we had a 1500 CCA battery jumper, used it hundreds if not thousands of times.  That is double, if not triple the capacity of most car batteries.

Cars running shouldn't make a difference, but then, I can't imagine why you would do it to begin with.

IMO, I think most 'stories' about things blowing up is people simply getting the polarity wrong.  I can't tell you how many times, both cars and bikes, we had to repair damage for that (although they rarely admit it at first)

The story is always the same...."so anyway, A FRIEND OF MINE went to jump the bike/car and...."
Logged
99 ZRX1100 - turbo'd
06 DRZ400-SM - turbo'd
86 Ninja1000R "rat bike" - turbo'd
EricD10563
Junior Member

Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 2009 Harley Road King FLHR
Location: Hawaii for now
Posts: 77

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2009, 11:17:18 pm »
Quote from: 1KPerDay on July 01, 2009, 02:46:43 pm

Or ride your bike often enough to keep the battery charged. Or buy a battery tender. Lol


What he said.
Logged
Former New Yorker now living in Hawaii. CB750F SOHC(sold), V65 Sabre(sold) and an 09 Road King.
my old 750
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs199.snc1/6731_1108398027788_1161930161_30277247_5886240_n.jpg
Here is a picture of my old beast V65
http://kauaiultralight.com/WebPost1730.jpg
my new ride
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs252.snc1/9916_1141658659283_1161930161_30360385_2327189_n.jpg
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4  All   Go Up
Print
Jump to:  



ST.N

Copyright © 2001 - 2010 Sport-Touring.Net.
All rights reserved.
COMMUNITY: INFO: SPORT-TOURING.NET:
- Forums
- Register
- ST.N Store
- Articles
- Submissions
- Photo Gallery		 - About ST.N
- Advertise
- Privacy
- FAQ
- Contact Us		 Sport-Touring.Net is an online community of motorcycle enthusiasts dedicated to the exhange of ideas, information and philosophy relating to all aspects of motorcycling. Our goal is to become the leading resourse for sport-touring enthusiasts seeking information and advice needed to plan, manage and launch their motorcycle adventures. Join us!