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Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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I currently own a new 2009 FJR1300, which is about 3 weeks old. I just sold my 2007 V Star 1300 last week.
I like the idea of having 2 bikes, and I love the FZ1. But, I'm wondering... is it too similar to my FJR? It's the only Yamaha I'm considering... otherwise I'd likely get an Aprilia Tuono or a Triumph Speed Triple.
Can someone who has owned or at least rode both weigh in on how different the riding experiences are?
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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October 13, 2009, 12:06:45 PM »
I wouldn't call them similar.
Hell, they are more different than similar. They both have two wheels and stuff but other than that, quite different.
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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Well they are both Yamaha bikes with inline 4 motors. The FZ1 is lighter but it's hardly a lightweight bike. I guess I'm curious how someone who has seat time on both bikes would compare the riding experiences.
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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Quote from: SVTNate on October 13, 2009, 12:17:14 PM
Well they are both Yamaha bikes with inline 4 motors. The FZ1 is lighter but it's hardly a lightweight bike. I guess I'm curious how someone who has seat time on both bikes would compare the riding experiences.
My opinion:
The FZ1 is a fantastic compromise between an all out sportbike and a "proper" Sport-Touring machine (FJR). Since you already have a great S-T bike with the FJR why settle for the compromises of the FZ when you don't need to? Maybe a R1 or a dual sport would be a better stable mate?
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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I don't know that I could ever get used to the riding position of a race replica style bike. I've been on a late model R6 a couple times, and hated the riding position.
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Perhaps something from Austria would interest you?
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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Quote from: black hills on October 13, 2009, 05:22:53 PM
Perhaps something from Austria would interest you?
I already own seven Glocks
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Quote from: SVTNate on October 14, 2009, 12:01:01 AM
I already own seven Glocks
Since you are obviously a fan of thier manufacturing proccesses perhaps something from the Mattinghoven factory would impress you? supermoto perhaps?
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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October 15, 2009, 04:59:35 AM »
I can't see how someone can only have one bike. I like the Yamaha FZ so much I bought a 2006 FZ1 and a 2007 FZ6. As for long riding time the longest for a day was around 300 miles and it wasn't too bad butt sore due to how thin the seat is but other then that I was pretty good.
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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Quote from: Cookie1960 on October 13, 2009, 03:20:34 PM
No. If you have the money to fill the garage, fill the garage.
More bikes good!! I'd go for the Speed triple myself. In fact,I might do just that
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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October 15, 2009, 06:35:26 PM »
Funny, I have either owned/tested/borrowed from a friend every bike on your list.
Now if you want something to go with the FJR (from your list): Tuono, S3 or FZ1. My pick would be hands down the S3.
In a *quick summary* (and just my opinion…worth 2 cents
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- FZ1: best all around, it’s like a mini FJR. Great utility bike no doubt…but you already have that in the FJR, seems redundant to add IMHO.
-Tuono, excellent machine. Very refined, comfortable. Most neutral & best handling of the three you picked. Just didn’t excite me as much as the S3.
-S3, IMHO would be the best contrast with your FJR. Great character/engine etc… Only thing I didn’t like is the down slope of the seat (aftermarket would fix that). But that said, the most hooligan of the bunch. Love the hOOters.
All that said, I agree with some of the other comments & would pick a dual purpose or super sport as a compliment to the FJR rather than a naked (if you can only have two). That’s just me. Happy shopping.
P. S. I think Bad Dad has the right idea!
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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My buddy keeps telling me than a naked/standard/streetfighter would be a waste, because any type of riding I'd do on it can be done on the FJR. He keeps telling me to get another cruiser (my first bike was an '07 V Star 1300) or a dual sport.
I'm pretty sure that I'm done with cruisers... I enjoyed the one I had, but I didn't know anything else. The more time I spend on the FJR, the more I believe that having another cruiser would not satisfy me.
At the moment I really have no interest in off-road/trail riding, so I don't think a dual sport is for me. I would like something lighter and more tossable for twisty roads, but at the same time I hate the hunkered-over riding position of supersports. I've taken an R6 for a spin, and sat on many R1's at dealers. Sexy bikes, and as much as I'd love the white/red '09 R1 sitting at my local dealer, I just don't think I'd ever get used to that riding position.
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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October 17, 2009, 05:17:28 AM »
I had a similar situation last year, and wound up with 2 bikes, a Bandit 1200S and an ST 1300 Honda. I thought having both would be the best but in a short time I realized I was always taking the Honda for a ride and leaving the Bandit in the garage. I liked them both, I just liked the carry capacity of the Honda so that's the one I rode most often. I rode the Bandit now and then, mostly to keep the battery charged. Eventually I sold the Bandit and bought a new KLR, and it and the ST1300 now get equal riding time. The moral is you need more than one bike, but they should be REALLY different from one another.
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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October 17, 2009, 06:48:25 AM »
I've owned both. Had a '05 FJR for awhile and currently own an '03 FZ1. I would not call them similar bikes other than they are both fairly typical I-4's for their respective displacements.
If you like a sporty ride I can assure you the FZ1 will not remain in the shed when it comes time to ride. It goes considerably quicker in the twisty bits. It's also capable of traveling a lot of miles in a single day. In fact my highest mileage single day ever was just this year and I was riding the FZ1.
The FJR1300 is smoother, makes a much better pack horse, offers far superior wind protection, and has shaft drive for those nasty days when you're riding but don't feel like spending a minute lubing the chain. There are times all those traits are to be highly admired, there are times it is boring and car like.
I have a Concours C10 that sits much of the year, now that the weather has cooled and road salt will not be far behind it is the Concours I'm riding. The FZ1 is tucked away with the cover on it. But should the sun pop out and a decent day emerge before winter really hits you'll likely find me several hundred miles from home on some twisty road watching the sun go down, from atop the FZ1.
So yeah, they are different enough. Still, I would have jumped on a Touno (or a triple) if I the right deal had come along. Having a different motor configuration would be great too!
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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I have an FJR as my only bike.
If I was going to buy a stablemate for it I would go for an R1.
I believe it would be much more fun but I wouldn't want to ride it as far or often as the FJR.
And locally the new '09 models are marked down to $10,200.
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I have a 06 FJR and was looking @ Gen2 FZ1 I felt it was a lighter version of the FJR and went with a 04 R6 that was set up for the track. I still would like a lighter dual sport/city bike.
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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Quote from: stealth1 on October 23, 2009, 09:28:45 AM
I have an FJR as my only bike.
If I was going to buy a stablemate for it I would go for an R1.
I believe it would be much more fun but I wouldn't want to ride it as far or often as the FJR.
And locally the new '09 models are marked down to $10,200.
I'm kind of with you on that... the R1 is very different, my dealer has a new '09 in the red/white scheme and I LOVE IT. The new motor has a deeper, really nice sound to it, and like you I wouldn't ride it far/often due to the riding position. But the bar position is pretty extreme, and I haven't seen any nice risers out there for the new R1.
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Like some others I had a '05 FJR and now a '07 FZ1 and at one time had a first Gen '05 FZ1. Hell their all great bikes. I have Givi bags and lower fairings on the FZ and its been called a FJR Lite. It travels well except for fuel range. For me personally I like a lighter bike and the FJR is up close to 650 lbs. Again for me the FZ just handles better. I don't think the FZ is a very good two up bike especially at my age (61).
I was on the FJROWNERS.com board and there were several members that had both bikes, not that unusual.
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I own a FJR and have rode an FZ-1 (and also previously owned a Bandit)
The FJR is not replaceable for any sort of distance riding. It wins hands down here, especially riding two up.
The FZ-1 is a fine bike, but I would consider an R-1 before the FZ-1.
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Re: Would it be a waste to have both an FZ1 and FJR1300?
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Well, I know they're different brands and all, but I almost pulled the trigger on an '08 Concours-14 to park beside my '06 Z1000 yesterday....
Seems like a perfect match to me...the 14 would of course be more touring bike, and the Z1000, my "sporty" bike.....well, as sporty as I plan on getting at least...lol.
As for the Yamis?....I'd own both of those in a heartbeat.
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