Goodbye and God Bless

[Papa Lazarou]

Look no further than the assault on Gallipoli in 1915 by Commonwealth forces lead from the rear lines by Generals anchored safely offshore    After they landed, our boys took the high ground but were recalled back to the beachhead because they were exceeding orders = another  

That was an early Winston Churchill fail.

Both the Turks and the Anzacs were brave. Very.

[Ralf]

WW1 was the war to end all wars - the Great War.

Lots of family feuding going on between England and Germany.  Trench warfare, mustard gas and machine guns turned this into a bloody conflict.

Actually, IIRC, Robert Graves says in "Good-Bye to All That" that after the war there was no animosity between the Brits and Germans, in fact a certain amount of admiration for their mutual bravery, whereas the Brits held a low view of the French...

But what does this all have to do with motorcycles anyway?   Oh, right! T.E. Lawrence was an avid motorcyclist  

[ANZAC]

That was an early Winston Churchill fail.

Both the Turks and the Anzacs were brave. Very.

I did not know that Sir Winston was involved with Gallipoli - I thought that one was a Sir Ian Hamilton affair/fail.

As far as family feuding - look at Queen Victoria's family with the German Kaiser (Willie) as her Grandson.  Royalty is royalty and they do hang together.

[Papa Lazarou]

I did not know that Sir Winston was involved with Gallipoli - I thought that one was a Sir Ian Hamilton affair/fail.

As far as family feuding - look at Queen Victoria's family with the German Kaiser (Willie) as her Grandson.  Royalty is royalty and they do hang together.

Churchill dreamed up the whole thing as First Lord of the Admiralty.

[blkhrt81]

Gallipoli was Churchills idea, but it does seem from what I've read that the commanders there did an extremely poor job of execution.  And in common with so much of the war, kept feeding soldiers into a futile operation long after it should have been obvious it was a failure.

[ANZAC]

Gallipoli was Churchills idea, but it does seem from what I've read that the commanders there did an extremely poor job of execution.  And in common with so much of the war, kept feeding soldiers into a futile operation long after it should have been obvious it was a failure.

Yes, very true - the allied forces had the high ground the day of the landing but were recalled back to the beachhead.  This gave the Turks time to recover and take the high ground thus sealing the fate of the allies.  Very badly done indeed  

[birdrunner]

Just recently the last Canadian Vet of WWI passed away.

He'd signed up, but the war ended before he got there.

None the less,  he must have been a brave man, as by that phase, everyone knew what a meatlocker it was.   (1 % of Canadian Population were killed, 2.5% were injured.)

[birdrunner]

My Grandfather was a corporal in the Newfoundland Regiment.WWI ended for him when he was badly wounded at Beaumont Hamel during the battle of the Somme.
Out of a whole regiment there were only 68 survivors.
We would ask him about about WWI but he never spoke of it to the day he died at 94 years old
 

Yes,  WWI,  where Germany unleashed their secret weapon on the Colonies.   ................   British Generals.