Hell for Leather Selling "Free Erik Buell" T-Shirts

[Schneegz]

Get yours while supplies last!  

 

[Brad1445]

Get yours while supplies last!  

 

The price is right, FREE.

[falconati]

SELLING.  

[Mastros2]

$26-$28?  No thanks! Cut that price by 1/3 and I'll get one and add it to the funny t-shirt bin!

[falconati]

$26-$28?  No thanks! Cut that price by 1/3 and I'll get one and add it to the funny t-shirt bin!

Just wait until they have t-shirt blowout pricing  

[Brad1445]

Erik can quit anytime he wants.  If he quit 4 years ago we may still have American sport bikes.  Time for new/younger blood.



Erik is free already because there is no laws against being a bad business manager.

[Tpoppa]

Erik can quit anytime he wants.  If he quit 4 years ago we may still have American sport bikes.  Time for new/younger blood.



Erik is free already because there is no laws against being a bad business manager.

Let's see if I can summarize this...

Brad goes a Badweb (a pro-Buell forum), and declares "this is crap, that is crap, styling, blah blah blah."  Not only was Brad's genius not immediately recognized.  He wasn't even declared leader or spokesman    To make matters worse, most of the folks thought he was kind of an idiot.  

The administrator of BWB, who is known to not be tolerant of Buell bashing, amazingly, wasn't tolerant of Brad's Buell bashing    Brad was deemed a troll, or something to that effect.  This was understanably a significant blow to a genuis of Brad's caliber.  He was sent into a downward spiral of depression.  Now just a shell of the man he once was, he has taken on the noble life's mission of letting the world know that he doesn't like the fairing on the 1125R.  I like to think of him as a prophet.  

On October 15th, when the announcement was made that Buell would be closed, Brad was hopitalized for severe dehydration that occured after countless hours of patting himself on the back.  I was very worried, but I am happy to say that Brad overcame that adversity, and his message lives on.  


Admitting that you have a problem can be difficult, but I think it's time to let the healing begin. Do you need a hug  

Seriously dude, move on  

[falconati]

Let's see if I can summarize this...

Brad goes a Badweb (a pro-Buell forum), and declares "this is crap, that is crap, styling, blah blah blah."  Not only was Brad's genius not immediately recognized.  He wasn't even declared leader or spokesman    To make matters worse, most of the folks thought he was kind of an idiot.  

The administrator of BWB, who is known to not be tolerant of Buell bashing, amazingly, wasn't tolerant of Brad's Buell bashing    Brad was deemed a troll, or something to that effect.  This was understanably a significant blow to a genuis of Brad's caliber.  He was sent into a downward spiral of depression.  Now just a shell of the man he once was, he has taken on the noble life's mission of letting the world know that he doesn't like the fairing on the 1125R.  I like to think of him as a prophet.  


Admitting that you have a problem can be difficult, but I think it's time to let the healing begin. Do you need a hug  

Seriously dude, move on  

 Best 32nd post ever

[1KPerDay]

The shirt needs a colon after "free."

[Brad1445]

Let's see if I can summarize this...

Brad goes a Badweb (a pro-Buell forum), and declares "this is crap, that is crap, styling, blah blah blah."  

You don't know me.  I was on there for about 8 years.  Pre-1125 debacle I was surgery sweet and I jumped on those that did not give a fair shake.  I bought 5 new Buells during that time.

Think about the facts
- Years of post demonstrating how impressed I loved the Brand, same here look back.
- How does a person buy 5 bikes they hate?

- 1125 is 'introduced' bad press is everywhere, I'm in shock a company could be that stupid, said company is now out of business, go figure.

The introduction of a more capable engine in the worlds best handling bike sounds like a winning recipe. Rotax makes THE BEST engines in the world.

The bike is a total cluster because no one knows haw to convert english to metric and zero effort was given to design.  

How do you take two good thing and put them together in such a way that its unsalable until you drop the price to $5,000

Buell is a case to be studied in Collage Classrooms of how ego and greed to rush a bike to market failed. The  colors were chose from a losing fight victim.  And thats what they delivered a loser against its competitors.

They did that not me.

so weigh my many years as Buell loyalist and promotor

vs

my disappointment and astonishment of the death rattle 1125 D.O.A the bike that could have owned the market.

Yes, this bothers me.  As a country is this the best we can do? 1125?




pulease

[Tpoppa]

I was trying to be concise.  I can add more detail if you'd like.

[1KPerDay]

The shirt needs a colon after "free."

Nobody? *shrugs*

[DogBoy]

Nobody? *shrugs*

I thought you were talking to sagerat.

[Blunder]

With all these sockpuppets who knows to whom one is speaking?

[nomadmax]

$28 bucks for a t-shirt?  I have to say it's not surprising to see something with Buell on it that's more expensive than comparable units and gives no better performance.  

[Kootenanny]

Erik can quit anytime he wants.  If he quit 4 years ago we may still have American sport bikes.  Time for new/younger blood.



Erik is free already because there is no laws against being a bad business manager.

Hmmm...Erik Buell took a small startup motorcycle company and built it up to the point anyone around the world could walk into a dealer and buy one off the floor.  And he did this after nearly losing his shirt due to an AMA rule change.  If that's poor business management, I don't know what good management might look like.

Yes, the 1125R might have been a stumble.  Have you seen the pics floating around of the rumoured 2011 Buell? (hint: there's a thread on this board).  This was apparently in the works.  Brad, you've said you're in design and marketing...well, I'm in mechanical engineering, and lemme tell ya, product development is as simple as it might seem.  

Buell was making a profit.  Harley shut ''em down as part of an overall downsizing, a pure business move made soon after a new CEO--who doesn't even ride a motorycle, BTW--took the helm.  A shortsighted move from a guy who I don't think understands how the motorcycle market works (he came from Johnson Controls, a company whose products--no matter how good they might be--don't really inspire much passion).

[Brad1445]

 I'm in mechanical engineering, and lemme tell ya, product development is as simple as it might seem.  

I'm sure your right on that point.

So why did they release the bike before it was ready.  I think it has to do with the 25th anniversary of Buell.  That one single decision caused a lot of bad press.

The pics going around of the 2011 model, thats when it should have been released.

[whodom]

So why did they release the bike before it was ready.  I think it has to do with the 25th anniversary of Buell.  That one single decision caused a lot of bad press.

The pics going around of the 2011 model, thats when it should have been released.

And that's the thing NOBODY here really knows.  Was Buell under the gun from HD?  "If you don't have this new model on the street by 1 September 2007, we're closing you down!"  I'm sure BMC had tied up a lot of money investing in the Helicon design from Rotax.  They needed to start getting a payback on that investment as soon as possible.  Maybe simple economics drove them to release the bike when they did.  Maybe they used up all their XB profits designing the Helicon engine and didn't have a lot of cash laying around to pay a first-class industrial designer to come up with bodywork.  

I can think of a whole lot of reasons why that bike came out when it did looking like it did other than Erik Buell not listening to anyone else or having "ego" issues about his new bike.

[Kootenanny]

I'm sure your right on that point.

Thanks for letting me know about my typo.  Of course, I meant "isn't."

[Brad1445]

And that's the thing NOBODY here really knows.  Was Buell under the gun from HD?  "If you don't have this new model on the street by 1 September 2007, we're closing you down!"  I'm sure BMC had tied up a lot of money investing in the Helicon design from Rotax.  They needed to start getting a payback on that investment as soon as possible.  Maybe simple economics drove them to release the bike when they did.  Maybe they used up all their XB profits designing the Helicon engine and didn't have a lot of cash laying around to pay a first-class industrial designer to come up with bodywork.  

I can think of a whole lot of reasons why that bike came out when it did looking like it did other than Erik Buell not listening to anyone else or having "ego" issues about his new bike.

Blake Court and the Buell team that post under the name Anonymous seem very to the point that THEY were in control They got everything they wanted and the 1125R WAS THE LOOK THEY wanted, on purpose.

So were they lying?

Were Blake Court and team Buell lying to the public?

If Erik was a victim he should have not lied to the public and QUIT before allowing his name on not ready for prime time quickly put together not very tested 'bike'.

So he either  lies, or he sold his soul, either way that show lack of moral fiber.