Triumph to grow model range 'significantly'

[Croak]

Actually, they look like Futura bags, which is kind of fitting because I'm certain the Futura had a big influence over the 1050 Sprint's aesthetics.

[Galo]

That log deserves full viewing mode.

  Yes, da Sprint. Must.......have.........job..........by ...........then...................

[Rincewind]

Croak is right - they look like a lot like the Futura bags.  So... looks like new bags and a new exhaust - I hope there's more than that.

I swiped this from the Triumph RAT forum.



Eagle-eyed MC reader Mike Morgan snatched this shot of the new Triumph Sprint ST undergoing testing on the M6 last week.

The picture confirms rumours that Triumph will launch a new version of the sports tourer later this year, though MCN understands it will be a 1050cc, not a1200.
Morgan, 28, from Dunfermline, Scot¬land, was travelling to work in his car on the southbound carriageway when he spotted the bike. He owns a 2007 Triumph Sprint ST l050 and quickly realised it was a heavily updated version of his bike.
He told MCN: "I'm normally pretty good at identifying bikes but when I first saw this I thought it was a Kawasaki GTR1400 because of the shape of the exhaust silencer and the size of the panniers.

"As soon as I drew up next to it I realised from the fairing shape that it was a new version of the Sprint ST. I got to play cat-and mouse with the bike for 10 minutes before he realised I was trying to take a picture."

The Sprint has remained largely unchanged since it was launched in 2005 and the biggest differences with the new bike look to be the removal of space-robbing underseat exhausts in favour of a substantial triangular shaped end can.

This frees up space at the back of the bike and because of the different routing of the exhaust, also dramatically reduces the amount of heat getting through to the riders' crotch area. Morgan said: “The exhaust is one on the few drawbacks on my bike so it was good to see the underseat pipes changed. As a result, the panniers are massive compared to mine and that will really add to the appeal of the bike as a touring option.
"Underneath the sub frame there is a matt black plastic panel that blanks off where the old underseat exhaust ran
"It also looks like the sub frame and pillion seat are a lot lower which means the pillion won’t be as exposed to windblast.”

Despite the Sprint getting a major overhaul for 2010 Mike s said the bike is till clearly identifiable as a Sprint ST. The familiar front lights remain almost unchanged although they are thinner in profile.
Despite rumours that the ST’s engine would be bored out to 1200 the Triumph test bike is registered as a 1050cc. It's also chain-driven despite persistent rumours that the new bike would be changing to shaft drive.
Triumph refused to comment on the sighting.


http://www.triumphrat.net/sprint-forum/134299-new-model-sprint.html

[Schneegz]

I thought that would turn up soon.  The new bags look huge, which addresses a lot of current owners' complaints.  They could be hiding the test bike underneath the bodywork from the current bike.  I'd be surprised if they stuck with the same engine.  The 1050 triple has been around for a very long time, if you consider that it's a heavily upgraded version of the old 885.  

[Galo]

I thought that would turn up soon.  The new bags look huge, which addresses a lot of current owners' complaints.  They could be hiding the test bike underneath the bodywork from the current bike.  I'd be surprised if they stuck with the same engine.  The 1050 triple has been around for a very long time, if you consider that it's a heavily upgraded version of the old 885.  

 

[bubba zanetti]

Here's another log on the fire....

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7421/triumph2011.jpg

Can't open that for some reason.  

[expatbrit]

Talking to a local dealer, I've also heard about a 'much more off-road focused Tiger'. Sounds like that Tiger Trail, or the Tiger Cub!

[MadOzodi]

I'm not very knowledgable when it comes to engine block or bore x stroke numbers, but are the dimensions on the 675 such that displacement could be increased to 1050cc and not suffer from doing so, i.e., rev limit capped at 9500k rpms?

[Schneegz]

Here's the full scan from the lunatics at the T595.net asylum.

[sammyseaman]

Here's the full scan from the lunatics at the T595.net asylum.

Cool  
The only bad thing about the single muffler is it covers up the coolness of having a SSS. And if they get rid of the SSS? Shame on you Triumph  

[Galo]

I'm not very knowledgable when it comes to engine block or bore x stroke numbers, but are the dimensions on the 675 such that displacement could be increased to 1050cc and not suffer from doing so, i.e., rev limit capped at 9500k rpms?

I don't know either but personally, the tractor-like power band of the 955/1050 mill is very much to my liking...I dont need or want 12k RPMs with a flat line under 7k....

[Schneegz]

I don't know either but personally, the tractor-like power band of the 955/1050 mill is very much to my liking...I dont need or want 12k RPMs with a flat line under 7k....

Triumph typically does a really good job of building engines with flat, predictable, usable torque curves.  Take a look at this Street Triple dyno graph.



If they take the time to design such a sweet curve into a 675cc hooligan bike, I seriously doubt they'd do any differently with a 1000+cc ST bike.

[Bryan217]

That log deserves full viewing mode.

The 2 pictures of the Sprint are different. The spy picture has the curved luggage. The other one just looks like standard Givi fare.

[Schneegz]

The 2 pictures of the Sprint are different. The spy picture has the curved luggage. The other one just looks like standard Givi fare.

The Sprint in the middle of the page is the current one.  Notice how the side cases in the spy pic above are the same as the ones on this spy pic.

[Schneegz]

More pics of the new Sprint from MCN, courtesy of T595.net.

[Rincewind]

Looks like some good changes for touring.  That rear rack looks much more substantial than the current setup.  But all in all it looks like only incremental changes and not really a new generation bike especially if it is to use the same 1050 engine as indicated.  I suppose that will keep costs down though, which is good.

[crispiegee1]

Looks like some good changes for touring.  That rear rack looks much more substantial than the current setup.  But all in all it looks like only incremental changes and not really a new generation bike especially if it is to use the same 1050 engine as indicated.  I suppose that will keep costs down though, which is good.

The article from MCN indicated that, despite the displacement remaining the same, it would be a newer, lighter, more powerful and more compact engine. That's the ideal news for me... lower weight is more important to me than more cubic inches. A liter is plenty large for a motorcycle engine.

[Rincewind]

The article from MCN indicated that, despite the displacement remaining the same, it would be a newer, lighter, more powerful and more compact engine. That's the ideal news for me... lower weight is more important to me than more cubic inches. A liter is plenty large for a motorcycle engine.

The pics above say specifically that the bike "will retain the 1050 motor of the current model."  I have not read the full article, that sounds pretty curious if they'd retain the 1050cc size with a new generation engine.  I have no problem with NOT increasing the 1050cc's - heck I dropped down to 675cc's of triple and I'm still stoked with it - but it would be an odd move for Triumph not to do 1150cc's with their new engine, like the bump from 885/900 to 955 to 1050.

[Croak]

Maybe not, Rincewind.  The displacement increases on the triples was purely due to stroking the same old block, as a way of getting more power out of it.  And they want to keep closer to the 1000cc range for a "universal" motor design in any case, just to keep the strong-selling and reviewer-loved Speed Triple in the same size classification.  Bump it up to 1200cc and it's in a class of its own (and a whole new, more expensive insurance class too).

If they bump the Sprint to 1200cc, it also means more direct comparisions to the road pigs tourers like the FJR, comparisions the Sprint will lose because those fools discerning shoppers aren't looking for the features that make the Sprint great, they're looking for heated center stands, electric mirrors, dual zone climate control, and cupholders.

The Tiger is the only one that wouldn't move out of its class that much by going up in displacement, since the GS, Stelvio, MTS1200, and Bandit are already up there and they're already direct competitors to the Tiger.

[Schneegz]

It's possible that Triumph will keep the old 1050cc triple in the new Sprint, but it seems unlikely.  It won't be able to keep up with emissions regulations and simultaneously keep improving in power and torque.  They'll need a new design to achieve that.  The old 1050cc triple is also rumored to be heavier than newer engines of similar displacement.

I wish the picture taker would've taken a shot of the forks.  I'd like to see if Triumph improved the suspension and brakes.