Something for the new rider.....What a car look like after a bike hits it at 155

[DavidLSI]

I like the last line in the article... "Something to remember next time your throttle hand feels twitchy"

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/155_mph_motorcycle_crash/index.html

SeeYa
DavidLSI

[1moreroad]

This is what a left turning car who pulled out in front of a motorcycle looked like after the bike hit it at 65 mph, about 20 mph over the speed limit and a speed achievable probably on any bike with more than 125 ccs.  The rider and the driver both died.

[RBEmerson]

"Death is nature's way of saying don't be an asshat".  

[Snowbird]

This photo has been posted about a zillion times over the past several years.  

[sammyseaman]

This is what a left turning car who pulled out in front of a motorcycle looked like after the bike hit it at 65 mph, about 20 mph over the speed limit and a speed achievable probably on any bike with more than 125 ccs.  The rider and the driver both died.

Hate to say the driver dying is good but........

[bizarro]

I suppose it's good for newblings to see such photographs and read such accounts, but I think the second photograph and account posted by 1moreroad is far more effective. 'This is what happens when you fuck up at near-legal speeds. You don't need to be going ludicrous speed to spread yourself and other people over a small area. Pay attention, don't be an asshat.'

[goldylocks303]

"Death is nature's way of saying don't be an asshat".  

Say that to the family of the driver of the car in the first post (red compact) that didn't do a damn thing wrong.  

eD

[Snowbird]

Say that to the family of the driver of the car in the first post (red compact) that didn't do a damn thing wrong.  

eD

The comments get stupider every time the staged photo is posted.

[goldylocks303]

What makes my comment so stupid in your opinion?  

eD

[Snowbird]

What makes my comment so stupid in your opinion? 

eD

The comments get stupider every time the staged photo is posted.

But, if you didn't know that....   

[RBEmerson]

Uh, you're suggesting hitting a car at speed won't hurt?  

Staged or not, the point's the same: "Death is nature's way of saying don't be an asshat".

[goldylocks303]

But, if you didn't know that....   

Ahhhh, check.  I'm not stupid, I'm just uninformed (there's a fine line there).  I was a little curious how they managed to clean all the blood and guts up to display it without removing the bike.  

We should turn this over to myth busters to see if this is really what the outcome looks like.  


eD

[steve.ski]

Perhaps posting photos of cars that have run down motorcycles would be more appropriate.

Let's start with Janklow...

[JimWilliamson]

Janklow...
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/play/slideshow.php?feature=2003%2F08%2F21_hetlandc_morejanklow&slide=1

[Snowbird]

Ahhhh, check.  I'm not stupid, I'm just uninformed (there's a fine line there).  I was a little curious how they managed to clean all the blood and guts up to display it without removing the bike.  

We should turn this over to myth busters to see if this is really what the outcome looks like.  


eD

And my apology for tossing the S word in your direction.  

[LENSMAN]

This photo has been posted about a zillion times over the past several years.  

We have a lot of new members, and apparently beginner riders- this is a good image to show.  

[Wanderer]

Someones undoubtedly gonna have an internet coronary but which photo do you believe is staged?
The one with a backstory and Swedish police report, or
The one of the car on fire in the middle of the intersection and small plastic pieces all over the road?

Let's assume for a moment that the stupid class speed photo WAS staged, how do you think they got the bike in there with all the associated damage to the car? a cannon? As for the lack of human ramains, it was on display at a motorcycle expo, of course they cleaned it, more likely however, is the probability that the rider simply went over the roof and about 50 yards down the road.
Having been an EMT, I can personally attest to the damage a bike will do to a rollerskate car like that.  I worked one in Phoenix about 8 years ago.  Ducati vs. Suzuki Samurai.  Estimated bike speed 140, driver side impact, both dead, rider was literally in pieces.

[goldylocks303]

You gotta love the cases where a coroner is called and told to bring a scoop shovel.  

And it wouldn't be hard at all to propel a bike to high speed without a rider.  Hell, you wouldn't even need the engine on.  

eD

[Pete in PA]

Take a walk behind any good sized bike shop and look at all the destroyed bikes waiting for insurance companies to total. That still to this day slows me down....at least for a few days.

[boostforfun]

My cousin was killed when he was 20 by a Blazer pulling out in front of him.  He was going a little over the speed-limit, and the blazer did not see him.  I dont put the blame on anyone, but it makes clear the fact that we all need to pay more attention when we are riding/ driving.

remember the SportBikers Motto:  

"Keep your eyes on the road, not the girl staring at you!"

[whitewolf]

The pictures will make you think for sure. But after doing some research on these photos, I found out that it never happened. The bike was put into a car as part of a campain for motorcycle awareness in Switzerland.
But keep posting them, it make us all think of what could happen.

[dj5hall]

We have a lot of new members, and apparently beginner riders- this is a good image to show.  

True, but in my humble opinion, we have to be realistic.  How many of you seasoned riders have done "triple digits" even though you know the risks?   Yeah, me too.  I've been riding for over 20 years and have seen it all, in pictures and in person.  We're talking bodies and pieces of bodies.  But, that didn't keep me from breaking 130mph yesterday.  And I'm 47 years old, not 27.  The point is this:  If, and only if, you have a "need for speed" you can make some reasonable choices before you twist the throttle, hunker down and watch the needle go to the right.  At the risk of being flamed, rather than just saying "don't do it" I'd rather give a little practical advice.

For example: you better damn well have fresh, speed-rated tires.  Your machine must be in tip-top shape.  You should be in a known, deserted area with NO SIDE STREET access where someone else could be hurt.  You should be able to see down the section of road you're planning on using for "testing".  I'm talking, wide open spaces--and in the daylight!   You should pre-ride the road and check the surface, turn around go back and then do your stuff.   Better yet, save it for a track day.  

However, there are areas I ride a loooong way to get to just for the purpose of "seeing how fast she'll go".  That's me.  But, I don't just crack the throttle any time I feel like it.  I'm not advocating using public roads for speeding.  But, if you're going to do it anyway, as most of us have, new riders need to know a few pointers.   Having said that, if your motor blows, a dog shows up, a tire goes down, etc., you'll could very well wind up dead as a doornail.  That's the risk and each person has to make the choice for him or her self.

[Y.B Slo]

I really hate fake pictures like that one! If you look close you will see the passanger door was removed to insert the bike.

[Snowbird]

Thanks to those who took the time to post the facts about this staged photo.  

For example: you better damn well have fresh, speed-rated tires.  Your machine must be in tip-top shape.  You should be in a known, deserted area with NO SIDE STREET access where someone else could be hurt.  You should be able to see down the section of road you're planning on using for "testing".  I'm talking, wide open spaces--and in the daylight!   You should pre-ride the road and check the surface, turn around go back and then do your stuff.   Better yet, save it for a track day.  

Right.   That's the problem... you just cannot go ripping around like nothing's going to happen.

For the n00bs: It is especially important to slow down through intersections. Make sure to position your bike in your lane such that oncoming traffic has a view of it. Usually, that means moving to the side of your lane farthest from the oncoming traffic. Always be ready to stop quickly despite being visible.

If you have flash brights on your bike depress and HOLD the switch... if not, turn your high beam on and leave it on until just past the oncoming car. Don't run around with your high beams always on unless you want to annoy a lot of other traffic and unless you're too stupid to switch it back and forth as needed.

[info]

Not staged...

[highside]

The comments get stupider every time the staged photo is posted.

Thats the first I have heard of that photo being staged. The story behind it has remained unchanged in my memory. Do you have a source for your claim?


This link includes an additional photo from the scene of the accident.

http://www.driveandstayalive.com/articles%20and%20topics/crash%20causation/speed_swedish-motorcycle-crash_2005.htm

[DCLXVI]

not staged, 45 mph crash