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About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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Okay, so I'm about to pull the trigger and buy an 1125R. I found a 2010 with 1xx miles on it. Oh yeah, it's the white color I've been looking for too.
It's gonna set me back about $7k.
I need you guys to help me push this one through, mentally. I'm just a little bit hesistant, because it would be my 3rd bike. The Ducati should sell in a few weeks, so then it would only be two (which I'm fine with).
INCLUDE YOUR WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT BELOW, PLEASE
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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Quote from: falconati on January 06, 2010, 11:59:29 AM
Okay, so I'm about to pull the trigger and buy an 1125R. I found a 2010 with 1xx miles on it. Oh yeah, it's the white color I've been looking for too.
It's gonna set me back about $7k.
I need you guys to help me push this one through, mentally. I'm just a little bit hesistant, because it would be my 3rd bike. The Ducati should sell in a few weeks, so then it would only be two (which I'm fine with).
INCLUDE YOUR WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT BELOW, PLEASE
1) You already know how nicely twins deliver power
2) kitsch. It matters.
3) Razor sharp handling
4) Piss brad off
5) Great brakes.
6) Seriously... you're actually asking?
7) doooooo eeeeeeeeet!
8) twin throb + water cooling.
Query: Why not keep the ST and ditch the Triple in favor of the Buell. Seems your garage will be a tad redundant on function/purpose.
$.02
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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January 06, 2010, 12:15:38 PM »
Go for it! The 1125 is going to be one of those bikes that people look back on and say "I should have gotten one of those". You're getting a hell of a bike for 7 grand.
Also, something something Ducati for sale?
I missed the for sale post? I assume from your profile it is the 2006 ST3, how much?
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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Just buy it or i'll kick your ass.
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Yes... Ditch the speedy. Right into my garage.
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Quote from: dorklord on January 06, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
Go for it! The 1125 is going to be one of those bikes that people look back on and say "I should have gotten one of those". You're getting a hell of a bike for 7 grand.
Also, something something Ducati for sale?
I missed the for sale post? I assume from your profile it is the 2006 ST3, how much?
$7300 to an ST.Ner (it's a page or so into the 'Bikes Only' forum)
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Quote from: LuvMy883 on January 06, 2010, 12:06:29 PM
Query: Why not keep the ST and ditch the Triple in favor of the Buell. Seems your garage will be a tad redundant on function/purpose.
$.02
I just got the Speedy! There's no way I'm getting rid of it. I was worried about the redundancy, too. My only line of thought otherwise is that the Buell could be a track bike, and my Speedy could be the everyday bike with the Duck being the trip bike. However, I'm thinking that when my Duck sells, the Buell will become the trip bike....I'll just pack some clothes in a backpack and take off. Maybe I'd take the Buell to the National meet..
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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Have you tested a 1125? I was really put-off by the vibes in the higher rev range - pretty unpleasant compared to Ducs and Triumphs, IMO.
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January 06, 2010, 12:58:52 PM »
Yeah but by that time you're in go-to-jail speeds.
Great bike, buy it. It's not my money.
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Quote from: 1KPerDay on January 06, 2010, 12:58:52 PM
Yeah but by that time you're in go-to-jail speeds.
Says the man with the ZZR1200.
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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January 06, 2010, 01:23:23 PM »
Quote from: falconati on January 06, 2010, 12:44:53 PM
$7300 to an ST.Ner (it's a page or so into the 'Bikes Only' forum)
Vewy intewesting...
It is time to plot. Perhaps even to scheme and connive (I like to call it schenniving) a way to convince my wife. We're actually looking at trading in my 'newish' truck to get her a 'newish' car...If there is some way I can convince someone to buy my truck for a Jetta plus 7300 cash...Or maybe if I sell a motorcycle. I guess I could sell my FJR...I doubt I could sell her bike without her getting wise to my plot...
BTW, where did you end up getting the Buell from?
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Quote from: falconati on January 06, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
I just got the Speedy! There's no way I'm getting rid of it. I was worried about the redundancy, too. My only line of thought otherwise is that the Buell could be a track bike, and my Speedy could be the everyday bike with the Duck being the trip bike. However, I'm thinking that when my Duck sells, the Buell will become the trip bike....I'll just pack some clothes in a backpack and take off. Maybe I'd take the Buell to the National meet..
I haz welding skills and can make some free time. I'd be happy to make up some luggage racks for you.
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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January 06, 2010, 02:07:54 PM »
Do it...NOW!!! The 1125R is going to take the place of my VFR. Its got the perfect combination of power, handling, low weight, and comfort that I have been looking for.
My 1125 is not quite broken in yet, and there are some vibes in the upper rpm range. However, at cruising speeds, it is quite smooth. I also have done a track day with it and the vibes were not an issue as I was too worried about body position, brake markers, apexes, traction, wheelies, passing, being passed, etc.
Plus, there aren't many 2010's at all. So jump on the deal before somebody else does.
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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January 06, 2010, 02:28:06 PM »
White looks brilliant. Pics of mine in the show off your bike thread and gallery. I'm sure you've seen some.
It is the first bike I've owned that women stare at an comment on. Even my wife who does her best not to encourage me told me she likes the look of this bike. I'm sure its the white.
Fit a Throttlemeister or heavy bar weights for the handlebar vibes. The vibe is much less than some other high power bikes including the ZZR 1200.
It is a collectors item already. The prices here are steadily climbing now that all of the available new bikes have sold. I paid 1/2 price for mine with the runout. One month later and I could get $5000 more for it, but it is not for sale. Second hand prices have pretty well come back to October levels.
It is a piece of history that can be maintained for the next 10 years (they 7 in the US, here it is 10).
The front brake on the demos I rode wasn't very progressive. Weak at first and then a lot of bite. I expected to be changing the pads, but the brakes on mine are perfect.
Right foot getting hot on hot days is the main discomfort, and this is supposed to get better when the bike runs in. You might want to check the forums on problems, but I think most are sorted.
The balance is fantastic - better than my XB which I thought of as well balanced until I got this one. The cornering is light. A bike should be light dropping into a corner or light coming up after. Usually not both. This one is, again more-so that my Firebolt which I thought was as good as you get. The bike also feels light when riding - I don't mean flexy light, it is super stable - it is light to propell because the of the smooth power. You open it up a touch and it moves like it weights nothing.
The min revs are a bit high for me after the Firebolt. It doesn't like to run below 3,200 in the higher gears. I'm told this changes when the bike runs in, and my old Laverdas were the same. At the moment I can pull the Firebolt through a tight corner faster than the 1125R because of this. IT is really a case of learning to take some corners in 1st instead of second. First is really smooth so it isn't an issue.
When I pull the clutch in traffic the bike just rolls without dropping much speed and the steering stay really straight with no wobble at low speeds. The 2010 has a 3 bearing rear wheel and it may be because of this.
ST3 are really nice bikes. I was looking at an ST3 and an ST4 abs (when they were available) but the Firebolt ended up appealing to me a bit more.
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Quote from: LuvMy883 on January 06, 2010, 01:48:14 PM
I haz welding skills and can make some free time. I'd be happy to make up some luggage racks for you.
Really? Wow, that would be amazing... If this goes through, we'll talk.
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Quote from: falconati on January 06, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
Really? Wow, that would be amazing... If this goes through, we'll talk.
I've done a bunch in the past and it's a market I'd like to dive back into. The small-parts for mounts are all available from Givi (as repair/replacement parts) and doing up a whole rack is more a test of patience and creative routing of supports than anything.
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Quote from: LuvMy883 on January 06, 2010, 12:06:29 PM
(snip)
4) Piss brad off
Seriously, isn't that reason enough?
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Do it...NOW!!! The 1125R is going to take the place of my VFR. Its got the perfect combination of power, handling, low weight, and comfort that I have been looking for.
There are people here that have been telling us forever, that the VFR is the best motorcycle ever made.
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January 06, 2010, 03:18:01 PM »
Go find someone who passed up a chance to buy a Vincent Black Shadow for ~30% off list price back in 1955 and see what they have to say.
Buy it!!!
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Quote from: Bueller on January 06, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
The vibe is much less than some other high power bikes including the ZZR 1200.
Er... no.
The ZZR has a bit of a buzz at around 4500-5000 rpm, but it smooths out on the way to 11000. The Buell is smoothish down low and in the midrange but gets pretty buzzy near redline... at least the 5 copies I rode at the introductory trackday. Lots more vibes than the ZZR has ever. But there's lots of torque so you don't really need to rev it that high.
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Quote from: LuvMy883 on January 06, 2010, 12:06:29 PM
1) You already know how nicely twins deliver power
2) kitsch. It matters.
3) Razor sharp handling
4) Piss brad off
5) Great brakes.
6) Seriously... you're actually asking?
7) doooooo eeeeeeeeet!
8) twin throb + water cooling.
Query: Why not keep the ST and ditch the Triple in favor of the Buell. Seems your garage will be a tad redundant on function/purpose.
$.02
Just because I don't want one, why do you think it would piss me off if others buy them. My guess is the sooner we sell the Buell branded ones the sooner they will release fixed and improved versions under new names and looks.
I had my 5 Buell s, but they were a bit less ugly and a bit more reliable.
Buy them up boys!!!!!!
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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Quote from: 1KPerDay on January 06, 2010, 03:34:15 PM
Er... no.
The ZZR has a bit of a buzz at around 4500-5000 rpm, but it smooths out on the way to 11000. The Buell is smoothish down low and in the midrange but gets pretty buzzy near redline... at least the 5 copies I rode at the introductory trackday. Lots more vibes than the ZZR has ever. But there's lots of torque so you don't really need to rev it that high.
I found the vibe on the ZZR almost cruel cruising at highway speeds. Both my Laverda 1200s were bad- probably worse. Rev them out and they smooth off, or at a higher cruising speed. I'd rather have the vibe at high revs than while cruising. At least with revs I feel like I'm doing something that should be making vibes and there is so much else going on that I don't have time to think much about it.
The 1125s don't come with any bar weights and they make a difference if you put them on. The point was that the vibes through the bars are no real reason not to buy an 1125.
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Mine just keeps getting better. Did two 400km days in a row (biggest days ever on a bike) and my back was an issue (preexisting injury) but everything else was fine.
I have custom bar ends that weigh 670g each (up from 8g each) and I had no problems with vibes, and that was 2 up.
LuvMy883: Have you done a set before? Do you have pictures? I am going to put pelican type cases on mine and am wondering about ways to mount them.
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I forgot to mention the clutch. It is brilliant. Vacuum assisted. It goes up through the gears with hardly a let off in the throttle and just a flick of the lever. Quick and light with minimal revs dropped on a change
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Quote from: 1KPerDay on January 06, 2010, 03:34:15 PM
Er... no.
The ZZR has a bit of a buzz at around 4500-5000 rpm, but it smooths out on the way to 11000. The Buell is smoothish down low and in the midrange but gets pretty buzzy near redline... at least the 5 copies I rode at the introductory trackday. Lots more vibes than the ZZR has ever. But there's lots of torque so you don't really need to rev it that high.
1K I just took another ride on a ZZR 1200 to make sure that my earlier impressions were correct. At 100kph (60 MPH) it was bloody awful. The bike is 4 years old but only 12,000km and in good nick.
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Quote from: Brad1445 on January 06, 2010, 10:32:31 PM
Just because I don't want one, why do you think it would piss me off if others buy them. My guess is the sooner we sell the Buell branded ones the sooner they will release fixed and improved versions under new names and looks.
It was... uhm... like... a joke.
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Quote from: Anakist on January 06, 2010, 11:37:35 PM
Mine just keeps getting better. Did two 400km days in a row (biggest days ever on a bike) and my back was an issue (preexisting injury) but everything else was fine.
I have custom bar ends that weigh 670g each (up from 8g each) and I had no problems with vibes, and that was 2 up.
LuvMy883: Have you done a set before? Do you have pictures? I am going to put pelican type cases on mine and am wondering about ways to mount them.
James
I used to build all kinds of racks and custom stuff "back in the day". I'm kinda quietly opening a small maintenance and light repair biz out of my garage (due to deed restrictions, I can't go full bore out of the house). Doing these kinds of setups is one of the things I'm hoping to really build on this side biz. Then, when I retire in 3 years (AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHAHAHA AHHAHAHAHAHHAHA AHAAAHHAHHA) and move to North Carolina or Northern California (AAAAAAAAAA AHHAHAHAHA AHAHA AHAHAHAHAH AHHAAHAHHHHAHHAHA AHA AHA HAA) everyone will be begging me to build racks for them.
There's the dream...
( I cracked myself up pretty good with that whole retirement joke )
As for pictures, no, not really, but I figure I'll do Falcon's racks for cheap (like, pay for travel time) and use him like a human advertisement
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Re: About to buy an 1125 - enablers needed!
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Do it, I sold my Ducati ST4 and bought an 1125CR, I would say the engine is actually smoother through the powerband, handles much better and dropped about 120 lbs between models. And for the price, it is a no brainer
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Quote from: Bueller on January 07, 2010, 02:01:37 AM
1K I just took another ride on a ZZR 1200 to make sure that my earlier impressions were correct. At 100kph (60 MPH) it was bloody awful. The bike is 4 years old but only 12,000km and in good nick.
You're only supposed to hit 100kph briefly on the way up and the way back down.
Tell your buddy to sync his carbs.
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Quote from: Bueller on January 06, 2010, 11:02:11 PM
The point was that the vibes through the bars are no real reason not to buy an 1125.
agreed.
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Quote from: falconati on January 06, 2010, 11:59:29 AM
Okay, so I'm about to pull the trigger and buy an 1125R. I found a 2010 with 1xx miles on it. Oh yeah, it's the white color I've been looking for too.
Your aesthetic sensibilities certainly have dropped since you decided to sell the Duc.
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Quote from: falconati on January 06, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
I just got the Speedy! There's no way I'm getting rid of it. I was worried about the redundancy, too. My only line of thought otherwise is that the Buell could be a track bike, and my Speedy could be the everyday bike with the Duck being the trip bike. However, I'm thinking that when my Duck sells, the Buell will become the trip bike....I'll just pack some clothes in a backpack and take off. Maybe I'd take the Buell to the National meet..
I guess the question is, why wouldn't you?! Toys are toys man... some people like 'em, some hate 'em... the only opinion that really matters is yours. Are you really going to enjoy it?
Personally, I've had a blast with mine even though I've only had it out for a very limited amount (stupid snow). I plan on tracking it next summer. I don't think I could do an IBA on the 25R, but I know there are people out there crazy enough to take off across the country on there's without issue.
Oh yeah, the Speedy and the 25R make good playmates.
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Quote from: atypical1 on January 07, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
Your aesthetic sensibilities certainly have dropped since you decided to sell the Duc.
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Very ouch. The more I look at it, the more I really like it. It's more of an acquired taste than a Ducati, which is conventionally beautiful. It's like.....taking the time to find the S1000RR attractive.
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So, everything is set. In 1-3 weeks, the Duc should be sold, at which point in time I'll finalize paperwork. So, if any ST.Ners want my Duc, contact me before some RANDOM Floridian owns it!
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Whats the price tag on the Duc?
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$7300 to an ST.Ner
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Quote from: 1KPerDay on January 07, 2010, 09:50:28 AM
You're only supposed to hit 100kph briefly on the way up and the way back down.
Maybe in a couple of years when I get a few points back on my licence.
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I am very happy with my 2009. I expect the 2010 to gain some collectable value, as there are only a handful in the US.
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Quote from: falconati on January 06, 2010, 11:59:29 AM
INCLUDE YOUR WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT BELOW, PLEASE
I found an '08 1125R at the dealer, the day they were rolling them into the parking lot on the first day of sale; $4995. You will be happy with the bike if you like performance toys. These things are incredible. The short-stroke Rotax is a work of art. It is NOT like an Aprilia Rotax. Enjoy.
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