Erik Buell Interview Exclusive [motorcycle-usa.com]

[Spiffious]

May I quote this in every harley bashing thread?  

I'd say you should!  My harley bashing is based on real experience.    

[Tpoppa]

Agreed. I fail to understand why people hold onto this pipedream.

+1

[Brad1445]

No.  None of them were 1125's.


EDIT:  Buell experience; Yes.   But you don't talk about 'Buell.'   You talk about 1125's which you've never ridden.

Too ugly to be taken serious.
Imagine of you ordered a BLT in a restaurant, and when they brought it up it had curly fries sticking out the sides, you would be scared to try it too. That would be a warning sign that something was wrong in the kitchen. People just throwing crap together.

The 1125 has that same something is wrong look.  looked like they went into the back room and mixed a bunch of parts together over one weekend.  Why is the fairing the size of a Buick.  Did the Rotax engine not deserve a new fully designed body worthy of its heritage.

Then the reliability reports made it a non starter. No pun intended.  

 

[Tpoppa]

Too ugly to be taken serious.
Imagine of you ordered a BLT in a restaurant, and when they brought it up it had curly fries sticking out the sides, you would be scared to try it too. That would be a warning sign that something was wrong in the kitchen. People just throwing crap together.

The 1125 has that same something is wrong look.  looked like they went into the back room and mixed a bunch of parts together over one weekend.  Why is the fairing the size of a Buick.  Did the Rotax engine not deserve a new fully designed body worthy of its heritage.

Then the reliability reports made it a non starter. No pun intended.  

As someone who has never ridden one, all you are qualified to comment on is looks.  Which happens to be the most poser-ish aspect of motorcycling.  Maybe an OCC Chopper is more your speed.

XBs are super fun street bikes, 1125s have improved handling and MUCH more power.  

It takes a big man to admit he's wrong, isn't that right little man

[Brad1445]

As someone who has never ridden one, all you are qualified to comment on is looks.  Which happens to be the most poser-ish aspect of motorcycling.  Maybe an OCC Chopper is more your speed.

XBs are super fun street bikes, 1125s have improved handling and MUCH more power.  

It takes a big man to admit he's wrong, isn't that right little man

Poser?  I ride 30-40k every year.

Admit I'm wrong, Nope I feel my Judgment selling my 08 Buell after they brought the same 1125 series out for a third year was very smart.

It saved me thousands of dollars and weeks and trips and days and days at the shop.
The future of Buell "my favorite manufacture" was clearly at a dead end when they neglected the market forces that require a attractive reliable affordable machine.

Buell lost their way, It will likely end up in college curriculums as a case study how ego's and poor judgment can kill a company that had wind in its sails.

I will miss Buell greatly, but yes I do have anger that a company can be that stupid.  If they dont all smoke pot at lunch time, I will never understand how a bike that looks that goofy and ran that poorly was released for production, then left out hanging for three  to die.  

Wht were people not fired in 2008 when this thing tanked at lunch?

[wbrisett]

 I will never understand how a bike that looks that goofy and ran that poorly was released for production, then left out hanging for three  to die.  

Looks are all in the eyes of the beholder. I loved the looks of the 1125CR from the first time I saw it. A lot of people say the Uly looks goofy too, but I won't be giving mine up any time soon because it's such a great handling bike. For the record, my 1125CR runs great, and there are a lot of people who will disagree with you Brad on both looks and quality/handling of the 1125s; I'm in that camp as well.

[Tpoppa]

Of the 20+ bikes I have owned, my 1125R may not be the best looking of the bunch, but it is the most fun to ride.  Also, it has been quite reliable.

Personally, I think all Advenbure bikes are ugly as sin...GS, Uly, Tiger, Multistrada, etc, all ugly...but here is the big difference...I don't endlessly complain about their looks.  I understand function over form, and I'm not a whiner.

[chornbe]

Of the 20+ bikes I have owned, my 1125R may not be the best looking of the bunch, but it is the most fun to ride.  Also, it has been quite reliable.

Personally, I think all Advenbure bikes are ugly as sin...GS, Uly, Tiger, Multistrada, etc, all ugly...but here is the big difference...I don't endlessly complain about their looks.  I understand function over form, and I'm not a whiner.

  Agreed! _{(says the guy with Givis on a ratty looking Sportster)}

[Brad1445]

Well I have had two Hayabusa's, so I guess I too break the ugly Rule, and my Ulysses was the funnest bike I have ever owned.  I would buy one today if I did not have a fear of parts.  If Harley does bring back the bikes.  I'll be first in line.

[wbrisett]

my Ulysses was the funnest bike I have ever owned.  I would buy one today if I did not have a fear of parts.

In my opinion, (well isn't everything we post?), the issue isn't parts but accessories. I'm already amazed at what you can't get anymore because HD considered it an accessory.

Wayne

[steve.m]

Too ugly to be taken serious.
Imagine of you ordered a BLT in a restaurant, and when they brought it up it had curly fries sticking out the sides, you would be scared to try it too. That would be a warning sign that something was wrong in the kitchen. People just throwing crap together.

The 1125 has that same something is wrong look.  looked like they went into the back room and mixed a bunch of parts together over one weekend.  Why is the fairing the size of a Buick.  Did the Rotax engine not deserve a new fully designed body worthy of its heritage.

Then the reliability reports made it a non starter. No pun intended.  



 

BLT with curley fries?    Sounds like something went horribly RIGHT in the kitchen.  

In my opinion, (well isn't everything we post?), the issue isn't parts but accessories. I'm already amazed at what you can't get anymore because HD considered it an accessory.

Wayne

Can you elaborate?  What does HD consider an "accessory" that should be a supported part?

[Brad1445]

BLT with curley fries?    Sounds like something went horribly RIGHT in the kitchen.  



Can you elaborate?  What does HD consider an "accessory" that should be a supported part?

One thing I read was the high bars for the 09 1125CR since low bars were standard.

[wbrisett]

Can you elaborate?  What does HD consider an "accessory" that should be a supported part?

Actually, I'll refer you to BadWeb for that since there are lists for various bikes over there already. But pretty much anything that was in the accessory catalog is gone, things like the soft luggage for Uly and any of the other bags (tank bag, stow-away bag), the high bars for the CR are also pretty much gone from what people have posted.

Wayne

[Bueller]

High bars are standard on the 2010 CR.  They have to keep supplying them.

The non accessory accessories are things like frame puck kits, heated hand grip kits, comfort kits, black lever kits, XT windshield kits

[steve.m]

hopefully i wont ever drop mine and scuff anything up    although i suppose if that were to happen scratches would be the least of my worries...and stickers could help a lot  

[wbrisett]

High bars are standard on the 2010 CR.  They have to keep supplying them.

The non accessory accessories are things like frame puck kits, heated hand grip kits, comfort kits, black lever kits, XT windshield kits

While High Bars are standard for the 2010, try getting them. They are on B/O with no date set on getting more. That doesn't mean they won't, just means things are very constrained. In fact some of the online HD ordering houses aren't even taking orders for the high bars. That really has folks scratching their heads. I have no clue what's going on there, but it can't be good.

Hell, maybe Brad is smarter than any of us gave him credit for by getting rid of his Buell. ...  Nah... We can't agree with him.  

[chornbe]

While High Bars are standard for the 2010, try getting them. They are on B/O with no date set on getting more. That doesn't mean they won't, just means things are very constrained. In fact some of the online HD ordering houses aren't even taking orders for the high bars. That really has folks scratching their heads. I have no clue what's going on there, but it can't be good.

Hell, maybe Brad is smarter than any of us gave him credit for by getting rid of his Buell. ...  Nah... We can't agree with him.  

Would I sound like a ship-jumping asshole if I suggested that these issues factored into my decision to not buy the Ulie after all? 'cause they did, at least a little bit.

[steve.m]

i've been out of the loop too long.  you did NOT buy the uly?  wtf mate!  if you think bars are a problem, just swing by a bmx shop, they're the same damn thing  

seriously though, you're a poser for getting the guzzi, first a gay pirate and now a capachino sipping, luis vuitton wearing, guzzi riding POSER!!!    

[chornbe]

i've been out of the loop too long.  you did NOT buy the uly?  wtf mate!  if you think bars are a problem, just swing by a bmx shop, they're the same damn thing  

seriously though, you're a poser for getting the guzzi, first a gay pirate and now a capachino sipping, luis vuitton wearing, guzzi riding POSER!!!    

Sputo sulla tomba del vostro asino dell'animale domestico di infanzia!  

[steve.m]

Sputo sulla tomba del vostro asino dell'animale domestico di infanzia!  

babelfish translation - Sputum on the tomba of your ass dell' domestic animal of infancy  

jeebus man, you're already speaking italian???