A few Tiger questions here...

[Rincewind]

Having owned both Ducatis and Triumphs (although not the Duc Multi) I disagree that Ducs hold their resale value better than Triumphs.  It has been my experience that both suffer equally as regards used valuations.   

That is likely correct.  My suggestion, though probably unclear, was that a Ducati with Ohlins (from the factory) will retain more value than a Triumph with suspension work done after the purchase.  With the Ducati the extra cost of the higher-grade suspension is built into the original value that is depreciating, while the Triumph's extra work won't add much to the overall value.

For instance:
Ducati with Ohlins costing $14k loses 55% of its value after three years.  End result is $7700 value.
Triumph costing $12k with $2k of suspension work loses 55% of its value after three years.  End result is $6600, plus a few hundred bucks for the suspension work, if you're lucky.

[Playinthestreet]

It's unfortunate, and my dealer who handles both lines, laments that both bikes are better than the residual values would indicate.  Ultimately we've got to buy the bikes we like and place the value in the experience of ownership, 'cause we're all gonna take in the a** at trade-in time  

[Rincewind]

Opportunity knocks!  Suspension already done!  http://www.sport-touring.net/forums/index.php/topic,49741.0.html

[1000lbs]

That would be really hard to pass up if it weren't 2500 miles away.  That should move pretty quick for him.

[bomber]

That is likely correct.  My suggestion, though probably unclear, was that a Ducati with Ohlins (from the factory) will retain more value than a Triumph with suspension work done after the purchase.  With the Ducati the extra cost of the higher-grade suspension is built into the original value that is depreciating, while the Triumph's extra work won't add much to the overall value.

For instance:
Ducati with Ohlins costing $14k loses 55% of its value after three years.  End result is $7700 value.
Triumph costing $12k with $2k of suspension work loses 55% of its value after three years.  End result is $6600, plus a few hundred bucks for the suspension work, if you're lucky.

This is likely part of the "aftermarket mods don't add value" mantra, which is most often correct, in my experience.

[Attack Pug]

IF I had it to do over I'd have got kept the Duc  

[1000lbs]

IF I had it to do over I'd have got the Duc  

Care to elaborate?

[BlueRidgeKat]

Does the Tigger take regular unleaded or does it require the "Super" petro to keep it purring ?

I'm over the Strada now, its just way overpriced. I'll just admire high quality images of it from afar.

[Playinthestreet]

Mine runs fine on 89

[bomber]

Mine runs fine on 89

+1 -- sometimes out in the Thulies I gotta go up a range to keep knocking at bay, especially if it's up in the 90s  -- midrange fuel is the highest I've ever had to use . . . .

[Punchdude]

Mine runs fine on 89

+1  Mine runs fine on 89 octane and is what the dealer recommended.

[Attack Pug]

Care to elaborate?

The Duc is a better bike. I should have kept the GT1000 Duc I had all it needed was fork springs,
valving.  I'm one that can take the Tiger or leave it. I think they released it to soon
without giving the bikes flaws a little attention. Poor suspension, buffeting, cheap battery etc etc  
It has a GREAT motor but meh
Get a Multi !

[1000lbs]

Ok, I got some seat time on a Tiger today  .  I took out an 09 and my overall impression is, this is a bike I would be happy to own.

I must admit, that after reading all of the reviews and responses to this post, I may have had a few ideas in my head of what to expect and look for, but I tried to be as open minded as possible. Most of what I was thinking was in comparison to the 11k I've put on my Speed Triple.  Most of what I was thinking was, this is pretty familiar.  

I honestly couldn't feel much difference in the engine.  It pulled hard from lower revs and didn't feel lacking on top.  The Speed triple might feel a little stronger on top, but that could be due to gearing.

The ergos were obvioulsy more comfortable, with the foot pegs lower and more forward from the seat.  The bars were also higher and closer, which I didn't like so much. I wanted to feel more connected to the front end and I don't think a slightly lower more forward bar would detract from the comfort for me.

The suspension felt "ok" to me, definitely a more plush ride than I'm used to.  On the handling, the turn in felt a bit slower. The best way I could decribe it, on the Speed Triple the act of turn in to completed turn feels instantainious to me.  On the Tiger, it felt more like a two step process, where I'd turn in, feel the bike drop in line, and then complete the turn.  Nothing drastic, just not as quick as I'm used to.  Once on line the Tiger felt great, and I'm sure with more seat time I would adjust to the difference in turning speed.

At the end of the ride I think the Tiger would be a good option for me.  I'm looking for more luggage options and better passanger capability, while sacrificing as little as possible of what I love about my Speed Triple.  To me, the Tiger does sacrifice some of the style the Speedy offers, and he Multi is still in the picture.  I will try to get a demo on one before I make a final decision, but I'm not sure it will feel $$$ better than the Tiger for what I'm looking for.



 

[1000lbs]

Just one more question, I'm finding some 07's that look pretty good.

Are there any changes/improvements between the 07-10 Tigers I should know about?

[Attack Pug]

Nope

[Punchdude]

I have read some early 07's burned some oil but other than that...

[bomber]

there were some front brake issues on very early examples, but those would have either been fixed under warranty, or not occured on any particular example.

Other than that (and the above mentioned oil burners, again, a small number that would have revealed theat particular trick by now), it's all the same as later versions . . . .

[1000lbs]

Alright, which one of you Tiger experts can tell me where the emissions sticker is located on the 1050 Tiger?

I found a sweet deal in AZ, but with well under 7500 miles I need to show the DMV folks the F*#king sticker.  The owners says he can't find one.  I verified through teh VIN that it is indeed a 50 state model, but my dealer said he's never had to look for the sticker, being CA dealer and all.

So, where is it?  I want to bring this thing home Sat. help a brother out.

[Rincewind]

Alright, which one of you Tiger experts can tell me where the emissions sticker is located on the 1050 Tiger?

I found a sweet deal in AZ, but with well under 7500 miles I need to show the DMV folks the F*#king sticker.  The owners says he can't find one.  I verified through teh VIN that it is indeed a 50 state model, but my dealer said he's never had to look for the sticker, being CA dealer and all.

So, where is it?  I want to bring this thing home Sat. help a brother out.

I hope you found some resolution on this topic.  I can't for the life of me recall seeing an emissions-type sticker on my Tiger when I had it apart...  GOOD LUCK 1000LBS!!!

[bomber]

Alright, which one of you Tiger experts can tell me where the emissions sticker is located on the 1050 Tiger?

I found a sweet deal in AZ, but with well under 7500 miles I need to show the DMV folks the F*#king sticker.  The owners says he can't find one.  I verified through teh VIN that it is indeed a 50 state model, but my dealer said he's never had to look for the sticker, being CA dealer and all.

So, where is it?  I want to bring this thing home Sat. help a brother out.

I don't recall seeing one either -- couple/three safety stickers, but nothing on emmissions . . . . .

Perhaps an enterprising soul at a sign store could help fill the void ;-}