VFR1200F Dyno Numbers [motorcyclistonline.com]

[Ves]

Now THAT is a bit harsh...

Look at the shape of the headlight on the VFR... I'm just sayin...  

[tomek]

1/  Check the beginning of this thread.  Honda makes 142, BMW makes 148.  BMW also makes more torque.

2/  That is a nice quote. But what does that sayl?  That a magazine that derives it's existence from advertising likes the Honda?
The VFR of course is a very nice bike.  But when Honda R&D staff tell me how much they like the BMW's extra power, less weight etc then THAT sez it all.
Posted on: February 28, 2010, 07:16:03 pm

Maybe it is slightly slower in the 1/4 mile, but that may be due Honda's shorter gearing.  Which some may say is why they conveniently impose a 157mph speed limiter.  Cuz it won't go that much faster anyway .  But having a speed limiter installed hides the reality that w/o it it still will be much slower than it's rivals.

CW`s bike made 145hp,that is close enough.VFR spins 3590 rpm at 60 mph,basic,pre school math tells as it would run out of rev at about 180 mph.Besides it hits the same Vmax in 5th and 6th gear,that is enough information to conclude is not geared short and it has speed limiter  if your IQ is higher then 78.  

[atadaskew]

if your IQ is higher then 78.  

Cute, what are you, 8 years old?
Spinning at 3950 at 60mph does not mean it will pull max revs in top gear.  Only one way to tell.There are other factors such as drag, stability,or maybe the shaft drive has longevity issues at extended super high speeds? Who knows?  It definitely is not a selling point for an autobahn bound bike for it to be passed by any of the current 600cc supersports....

When the Honda guys themselves gush about the BMW and reminisce about the old gear cam VFR as the best out of the lot, it seems that this new bike was not driven by the engineers.

I have to say that seeing it in motion cruising down PCH with the sun glinting off its flanks, it looked like a completely different bike than when parked. Much nicer.

[tomek]

Cute, what are you, 8 years old?
Spinning at 39503590 at 60mph does not mean it will pull max revs in top gear.  Only one way to tell.There are other factors such as drag, stability,or maybe the shaft drive has longevity issues at extended super high speeds? Who knows?  

You absolutely clueless, can`t get even rpm right, just trolling as usual,why do I even waste my time with you.

If you care to compare similarly sized bikes ( frontal area,shape of faining) with similar hp figures you would come to conclusion that VFR  unrestricted would be good for mid 170s .
At 157 mph that bike is way below peak power rpm in 6th,pulls the same speed in 5th,it is just so obvious  to anyone ,don`t even try to argue with me on this subject  or you FAIL.I had full semester of vehicle dynamics back in the day  ,,,,,,,,,,,  

[atadaskew]

You absolutely clueless, can`t get even rpm right, just trolling as usual,why do I even waste my time with you.

You are over-reacting just a tad.  I mis-typed and it causes you to flip?
Dood, take a deep breath and chill.

Ok, so it 'could' go mid 170.  Just like an old Kawi ZX11 or Honda CBR11XX.
But it doesn't.  It goes 157mph.  

It doesn't matter to me as I don't ride like that.  So even though my Duc St4s goes 5 mph faster than this new Honda, it's irrelevant.

[tomek]

O.K,why don`t you just concede and admit you were trolling.I won`t tell anybody,O.K. ?

BTW,my bikes are faster then yours.

[atadaskew]

O.K,why don`t you just concede and admit you were trolling.I won`t tell anybody,O.K. ?

BTW,my bikes are faster then yours.

I'm only trolling about 50% of the time in my posts.
What am I supposed to do at work? Work?
 

p.s. your bikes are only faster because mine have speed limiters.. (especially the Vespa)

[todao]

I'm only trolling about 50% of the time in my posts.
What am I supposed to do at work? Work?
 

p.s. your bikes are only faster because mine have speed limiters.. (especially the Vespa)

Boring boring boring.  Why don't you guys go IM and only annoy each other.  And leave the thread to those of us interested in real VFR 1200 content instead of bickering kids dribble.

[atadaskew]

Boring boring boring.  Why don't you guys go IM and only annoy each other.  And leave the thread to those of us interested in real VFR 1200 content instead of bickering kids dribble.

C'mon Todd, then this thread would maybe have had 3 posts!

Peace out!

[TuffguyF4i]

Peak HP is important, but more important is total area under the curve.  Linear power delivery will win almost every time.  Of course, it has to be matched with the right gear ratios to utilize the power.

Did someone post the dyno chart and i missed it?  I did not see one for the vfr.  

I always have a chuckle to myself when someone complains about 10-20lbs on a bike.  Most guys that sport-tour are a good 50-100lbs overweight!  

[atadaskew]

I always have a chuckle to myself when someone complains about 10-20lbs on a bike.  Most guys that sport-tour are a good 50-100lbs overweight!  

and bolt on 30lbs of electronic farkles and other doo-dads onto their bikes!
Posted on: March 23, 2010, 10:13:33 am

Peak HP is important, but more important is total area under the curve.  Linear power delivery will win almost every time.  Of course, it has to be matched with the right gear ratios to utilize the power.

Did someone post the dyno chart and i missed it?  I did not see one for the vfr.  

Reply #2 on page 1 by The Skipper shows the graphs comparing k13 vs VFr12

[Zerosum]

So, has someone actually bought one yet?  Anyone over at VFRD or VFRWorld?  Has anyone read a post from anyone saying "Woot!  Just brought home my VFR1200!!!"

[atadaskew]

Some doods in England have them, apparently love them

[UFO]

I think one guy on VFRD has one (In England I think).  No one here that I know of.

I'm sure it's a good bike, but the fact that I don't see members of online communities really saying they bought one says a lot.

[Zerosum]

Not exactly the best economic climate to sell a $16K motorcycle.  

Honda probably began development of this thing back in '06 when money was growing on trees and Average Joe could just dip into his home equity to buy a $16K motorcycle.  

[FirstVtwin]

Dealerships are already advertising it for $13,799 on cycle trader...wonder what it will be in another 6 months?  Never heard of a bike being cut that much at introduction...

[McHack]

I think one guy on VFRD has one (In England I think).  No one here that I know of.

I'm sure it's a good bike, but the fact that I don't see members of online communities really saying they bought one says a lot.

None of the dealers here in central Ohio have them in, yet...

[atadaskew]

Dealerships are already advertising it for $13,799 on cycle trader...wonder what it will be in another 6 months?  Never heard of a bike being cut that much at introduction...

If the dealer fees are not ridiculous etc, $13,800 makes this bike totally worthwhile IMO

[falconati]

Yeah, and you can use all the money you save to get towed to the nearest gas station when you run out of fuel  

[atadaskew]

Yeah, and you can use all the money you save to get towed to the nearest gas station when you run out of fuel  

Dood, I ride about as far as Shah does so range is not a problem.