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« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2010, 04:41:51 PM »




Not according to county

The new Multi in base trim is an OK price, I guess. The packages add up right quick, though. I'd want to drop the traction management and add ABS and a 3-box setup for me. I don't need the ESA.


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« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2010, 07:15:21 PM »




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The new Multi in base trim is an OK price, I guess. The packages add up right quick, though. I'd want to drop the traction management and add ABS and a 3-box setup for me. I don't need the ESA.


Why would you drop the traction control?  Besides you can turn it off if you don't want it ...until it rains and you wish you had it. Smile
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« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2010, 06:20:34 AM »




Why would you drop the traction control?  Besides you can turn it off if you don't want it ...until it rains and you wish you had it. Smile


How about riding like it's raining instead of like it's not? Or, are you suggesting that with TC you can ride like it's not when it is?  Ahhh, caught in the act: let the technology replace riding skill/good judgement, right?  Bigok
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« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2010, 06:35:05 PM »


How about riding like it's raining instead of like it's not? Or, are you suggesting that with TC you can ride like it's not when it is?  Ahhh, caught in the act: let the technology replace riding skill/good judgement, right?  Bigok


I'm suggesting that even in the rain riding like it is raining there are times when TC would help out.  For instance running around city streets.  Man hole covers, cross walk lines, oil floating on the water, etc are all things which can make it very slippery and with TC it can help.  Just like how ABS can help.
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« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2010, 03:56:35 AM »




I'm suggesting that even in the rain riding like it is raining there are times when TC would help out.  For instance running around city streets.  Man hole covers, cross walk lines, oil floating on the water, etc are all things which can make it very slippery and with TC it can help.  Just like how ABS can help.


None of those hazards could not be handled without exercising caution in wet conditions. Will TC work when you're leaned into a corner and slide due to slick conditions instead of wheel spin? I've rode my bike in biblical downpours for days at a time on tour riding on skinny bias ply tires without the "benefits" of TC, and had no traction issues. I used caution and good riding skill for water covered roads when I had too, and I'm sure on a sport touring forum, most others have too so there are literally millions of TC free miles racked up riding in the wet without incident that shows TC is not *needed.* (Same can be said for ABS  Wink) But, sure, I'll agree, it can help out some times in the wet, but *if* one's  riding like it will bail him out instead of slowing down, it's not a question of if, but rather when will "technology confident" bad riding habits catch up with him.  Sad

Let's admit it, TC's attraction is that riders will be able to pin it exiting corners and not have to feel their way through. Look out Stoner, here comes a herd of middle aged wanna be dreamers with some disposable income up your back side. Lol Not that there's anything wrong with that, (sounds a little like me  Lol) as it's all good fun, but I feel touting TC as a wet condtions safety feature rather than a go fast feature is specious.  Smile
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« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2010, 06:07:07 AM »



...Let's admit it, TC's attraction is that riders will be able to pin it exiting corners and not have to feel their way through. Look out Stoner, here comes a herd of middle aged wanna be dreamers with some disposable income up your back side. Lol Not that there's anything wrong with that, (sounds a little like me  Lol) as it's all good fun, but I feel touting TC as a wet condtions safety feature rather than a go fast feature is specious.  Smile



Yeah, nicely put, sort of  Lol . As a middle-aged guy with disposable income (read: no wife, no kids, no mortgage), I'm not even sure what to think about the TC feature. Though, I'm sure I won't be compelled to ride willy-nilly hoping to be saved by technology.

My main attraction to the MTS 1200 is that it has similar HP to my C-14 and similar bumpy back-road suspension friendly-ness to my V-Strom 1k. Eh, I'm not really buying 4-bikes in one, but I'm for sure buying two bikes in one.

No doubt the push-button suspension adjustments gave a big lure as well. Because, well...I'm a lazy fuck and generally don't dial in suspension between switching from two-up with bags, one up with no bags, etc. Normal course is to dial everything for two-up with bags and that's the way it stays. I like the lazy-fuck instant suspension adjustment.

I like ABS, though I have no miracle story to share on how it saved my ass. So far I mostly like it because I can just fooking stab the rear brake deep and hard whilst rolling off the throttle and go from 110 to 70 mph without the tell-tail deep front-end dive you get from the front-brake that tips the observing officer that you're on to them.  Crazy  Lol . Still, for me, I don't pretend I can overcome a 'panic braking' scenario. Since there's no way to practice 'panic' braking, I think ABS is good insurance for not laying 'er down in the process if it ever comes up.

Any-case, I agree. If your making a right or left turn on a city street in the rain and your front tire runs across a man-hole cover, painted lines, etc. No technology has been invented yet to keep you from crashing in common sense. look where you're going situations....


 









 
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« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2010, 08:35:26 AM »

The funny thing with TC and ABS...it only has to work once for it to pay for itself.

TC has potentially save me from embarrassment in my Vette several time.  TC would have been handy on the FJR a couple times.  I remember once accelerating down a slick, wet on ramp all cross up at 70 mph. Crazy  ABS has also save my butt on the FJR at least once that I can recall.

Lightweight, high powered vehicles are susceptible to all kinds of wheel spin, especially in the wet/slick.  I don't worry too much about it in the dry.  So, if I can get wheel spin on the FJR, I imagine the MTS with more hp and 150 fewer pounds could be a handful on slick roads unless you ride it like a Nancy. Lol
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« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2010, 07:27:36 PM »


None of those hazards could not be handled without exercising caution in wet conditions. Will TC work when you're leaned into a corner and slide due to slick conditions instead of wheel spin? I've rode my bike in biblical downpours for days at a time on tour riding on skinny bias ply tires without the "benefits" of TC, and had no traction issues. I used caution and good riding skill for water covered roads when I had too, and I'm sure on a sport touring forum, most others have too so there are literally millions of TC free miles racked up riding in the wet without incident that shows TC is not *needed.* (Same can be said for ABS  Wink) But, sure, I'll agree, it can help out some times in the wet, but *if* one's  riding like it will bail him out instead of slowing down, it's not a question of if, but rather when will "technology confident" bad riding habits catch up with him.  Sad

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« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2010, 07:29:13 PM »


Any-case, I agree. If your making a right or left turn on a city street in the rain and your front tire runs across a man-hole cover, painted lines, etc. No technology has been invented yet to keep you from crashing in common sense. look where you're going situations....


Even riding with "common sense" doesn't mean you'll be able to avoid the situation.  
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« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2010, 06:16:48 AM »





You don't understand TC do you?


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« Reply #70 on: March 18, 2010, 11:27:25 AM »


The new Multi in base trim is an OK price, I guess. The packages add up right quick, though. I'd want to drop the traction management and add ABS and a 3-box setup for me. I don't need the ESA.


Moot point.   Ducati's Traction Control is standard on all models of the Multistrada 1200.   You can turn it off if you like.   Same usage with the ABS.  If you feel you dont need it, turn it off.  

Update on the auxillary power outlets by the way.  "Capacity is up to 8 amps  and the outlets are protected by a 10A fuse."

In conserving power the headlight low beam does not come on automatically til you start the engine as well.    
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« Reply #71 on: March 18, 2010, 01:37:26 PM »


Update on the auxillary power outlets by the way.  "Capacity is up to 8 amps  and the outlets are protected by a 10A fuse."


Noice! Bigok

Good to see Ducati did an update from the first published spec.
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« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2010, 04:33:02 PM »


Update on the auxillary power outlets by the way.  "Capacity is up to 8 amps  and the outlets are protected by a 10A fuse."


AWESOMEness....I think I'm gonna start calling you now to see if my bike is here yet.   Lol
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« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2010, 06:18:23 PM »



Update on the auxillary power outlets by the way.  "Capacity is up to 8 amps  and the outlets are protected by a 10A fuse."


I'm assuming this is a total of 8 amps capacity.

So can  each outlet actually take the 8 amps separately?  In other words, can you plug something that takes 8 amps into one outlet without smoking the plug/wires on that outlet?

Is each outlet fused, or just one 10A fuse the feeds all the outlets.
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« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2010, 03:06:24 AM »

I was at my dealer Thursday.  No 1200, yet but two 1100S on the floor.
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« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2010, 07:12:53 PM »


I was at my dealer Thursday.  No 1200, yet but two 1100S on the floor.


Don't worry...there will be a thread of one of us getting our new MTS1200 when they show up.  No need to go to your dealer to look for it.  Lol
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« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2010, 10:16:48 PM »




Don't worry...there will be a thread of one of us getting our new MTS1200 when they show up.  No need to go to your dealer to look for it.  Lol


Hmmm, makes we wonder how the delivery works. We both have big shipping ports nearby. Does California or Washington get first delivery? I guess we find out (hopefully) soon...  Bigsmile
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« Reply #77 on: March 21, 2010, 11:45:47 PM »

I'd think the east coast would get them first.  Probably a tie between CA and WA.
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« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2010, 12:04:45 AM »

most often port of entry will be NJ first...  I would recommend everyone with a deposit confirm their color and model choice with your dealer before months end.  We register our MTS priority reservations with deposits  with Ducati NA starting April 1st.
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« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2010, 02:06:22 AM »


I'd think the east coast would get them first.  Probably a tie between CA and WA.


 Embarassment  Yeah, I'm so used to ordering from Japan, I forgot the world order for delivery will be reversed. Sucks for me  (to think my baby will be beat to shit riding in a truck on a cross county road trip before I even get delivery.  Sad

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