Let's put it to rest for once.

[tankhead]

Really tired of the whole Buell committed suicide with the 1125R.  Please read the following article.  If, at the end, you really still think that Buell (with the f'n crap budget that they were given) still commited suicide I really think you are biased beyond repair. I think Erik is a champion and quite the role model for american businesses across the land.  He is not spending time smokin' weed, he got a new business up and running in record time and is vigilant about providing great service and products. Just tired of the mis-information.  EDUCATE YOURSELF for f#ck sake
http://www.jsonline.com/business/84291217.html

[Roadscum]

Really tired of the whole Buell committed suicide with the 1125R.  Please read the following article.  If, at the end, you really still think that Buell (with the f'n crap budget that they were given) still commited suicide I really think you are biased beyond repair. I think Erik is a champion and quite the role model for american businesses across the land.  He is not spending time smokin' weed, he got a new business up and running in record time and is vigilant about providing great service and products. Just tired of the mis-information.  EDUCATE YOURSELF for f#ck sake
http://www.jsonline.com/business/84291217.html

Another one of those guys that has overdosed on the kool aid.

[kendenton]

Cue brad1445 in 3..2..1....

[Brad1445]

Really tired of the whole Buell committed suicide with the 1125R.  Please read the following article.  If, at the end, you really still think that Buell (with the f'n crap budget that they were given) still commited suicide I really think you are biased beyond repair. I think Erik is a champion and quite the role model for american businesses across the land.  He is not spending time smokin' weed, he got a new business up and running in record time and is vigilant about providing great service and products. Just tired of the mis-information.  EDUCATE YOURSELF for f#ck sake
http://www.jsonline.com/business/84291217.html

Did you read the article or just look at the pretty pictures?

"Last fall, Harley-Davidson Inc. announced it was shutting down the sport bike manufacturer it had owned for more than a decade.

Harley executives said Buell Motorcycle Co. was not profitable and had simply run out of time."

Thats called supply and demand. Other small manufactures have had their sales go up in the last few years?  How can that be? Supply and DEMAND Thats what I have been saying all along.  

So if the 1125r was selling we WOULD still have a Buell. They screwed the pooch. Says here on the death certificate death by suicide.

They killed loyal customers like me and made ugly leaking lumps that sit in service shops and only sell in volume at $5,000.  And there are still some to be had.

If thats not Suicide WTF is, even in a down market they had a captive audience and there is pent up demand for american products.

All they had to do was add a water cooled engine to a very capable XB well handling bike.  Obviously that task proved too difficult. (drugs)  They forgot that water cooled bikes need a place for water.

Rotax makes the BEST engines in the world.  Harley obviously can market bikes very well as they own 50% of their market.
Some bike manufactures have reported sales climbing in this down market, simple supply and demand.

No one wanted the dog food.



Drugs kill, no sain person would have released the problem prone 1125.
NOW Buell is dead.

 Harley let the little kids play with no supervision so they share that blame.  

Supply needs a little demand DEMAND The new bike was being out sold buy the old outdated air cooled ones.  Heck even I bought another Firebolt in 2008 when I came to pick up the very first 1125 sent to Colorado.  Sun Harley was holding it for me knowing I buy anything Buell.

After I looked my new 1125 over I refused it,  it was obvious, it was not ready for production.

Why do I care?  Because I can not figure out how they failed such a simple task. Because I was a Buell fanatic!!!

Take a good handling bike, add a great engine stir and sell.  This is what they sent to market?


and yes I do think drugs were involved

[tankhead]

gotcha

[squeezer]

Cue brad1445 in 3..2..1....

It took two hours, two minutes, and 1 second.  He must be getting over it.

[kendenton]

Nah, he had to search long and hard to find that picture of the pods  

[Tpoppa]

It was murder not suicide.  

There were at least 2 groups that made offeres to keep Buell alive.  

[tankhead]

Brad if that be the case (suicide by a pot smoking loser says you) why did harley offer him an advisor of engineering position?  It was a couple of lines under the quotes that you have listed.  (did you read the whole article or only what you chose to read?)  The point of my post is that the 1125 is not what killed Buell it was the economy along with horrible financial woes by HD lending that killed the company.
I understand you are personally offended that your ship did not come in with the delivery of the new model.  I also understand you being pissed that you were hell bent on being the first on your block to have the latest and greatest bike to show your buddies in your neighborhood only to buy that beautiful white firebolt.  But lets just admit that you being offended and constantly showing your obvious feelings of being slighted with pics of the pod really shows no credible argument about the company, the company's management, or the products being a reason for the company being shut down.

[tankhead]

A great 8th post roadscum.  Really.  Good Job.  Welcome to S-T.net  

[Tpoppa]

Brad if that be the case (suicide by a pot smoking loser says you) why did harley offer him an advisor of engineering position?  It was a couple of lines under the quotes that you have listed.  (did you read the whole article or only what you chose to read?)  The point of my post is that the 1125 is not what killed Buell it was the economy along with horrible financial woes by HD lending that killed the company.
I understand you are personally offended that your ship did not come in with the delivery of the new model.  I also understand you being pissed that you were hell bent on being the first on your block to have the latest and greatest bike to show your buddies in your neighborhood only to buy that beautiful white firebolt.  But lets just admit that you being offended and constantly showing your obvious feelings of being slighted with pics of the pod really shows no credible argument about the company, the company's management, or the products being a reason for the company being shut down.

Tank your facts are sound, but trying to convince Brad is like trying to reason with a 18 girl who was dumped on prom night.

[falconati]

  fuck

[Rogue]

Another one of those guys that has overdosed on the kool aid.

Another self-appointed Buell expert who has NEVER owned a Buell.  

[Rogue]

Tank your facts are sound, but trying to convince Brad is like trying to reason with a 18 girl who was dumped on prom night.

It's more like talking to Gnome.

Or a Troll....same thing.

[Brad1445]

Some manufactures reported higher sales so its not just market its still supply and demand.  Why did all you cry babies not buy the things?

I'm a Buell Troll?







How many did you buy?


The only thing that is put to rest is the ugly mess that Buell had become with a simple task.  Harley should sue Erik for destroying a company when handed a simple task.  I have plenty of bikes still to choose from but my favorite manufacture ate a big bowl of stupid and took the American option off the table.  

Idiots and those that stood around watching defective bikes roll down the line are all to blame.  Did not one person have the balls to say STOP, is this really our best we can do.
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Let's put it to rest for once., BUELL IS DEAD. Quit trying to blame everybody else for it.



Someone may have wanted to buy the plant or the machinery but no one wanted the bikes, go get as many as you want now they will be collectors items or more likely a college course how not to run a business using the peter principle.

Scoops can be dangerous


Now back to your imaginary world

[Brad1445]

Brad if that be the case (suicide by a pot smoking loser says you) why did harley offer him an advisor of engineering position?  It was a couple of lines under the quotes that you have listed.  (did you read the whole article or only what you chose to read?)  The point of my post is that the 1125 is not what killed Buell it was the economy along with horrible financial woes by HD lending that killed the company.
I understand you are personally offended that your ship did not come in with the delivery of the new model.  I also understand you being pissed that you were hell bent on being the first on your block to have the latest and greatest bike to show your buddies in your neighborhood only to buy that beautiful white firebolt.  But lets just admit that you being offended and constantly showing your obvious feelings of being slighted with pics of the pod really shows no credible argument about the company, the company's management, or the products being a reason for the company being shut down.

PS, you did have a good post many very good points.  I guess till this day Im simply blown away how the 2008 Buell was released, then became the 09, then the 10.  YOu are lucky You have probably the best bike Buell made and one of the best period ever made.  Enjoy.

[tankhead]

tanks brad. But for the record I am not TRYING to blame anyone except the company who shut it down. They had the right to shut it down. I am not blaming.  I just see that getting you to see past your anger is not worth my time.  Good Luck with that.  

[Tpoppa]

I'm a Buell Troll?

Yes.  And a bit of a drama queen, too.

[chornbe]

Thank God we have something new to talk about.

[tankhead]

Chris, just go back to your indecisive ways............. JK.  Good Luck with your new bike.  Hopefully I will get to me you at the burger run.