AMA at Daytona Road Race and Supercross **SPOILERS**

[Blunder]

Anyone still have the race saved?

It's on again on Tuesday morning. 0930 PST.

[DogBoy]

Thanks.

[DJStevieB]

Larry, nice picture. What's that little white-ish wire that's attached to the front brake line?

[motodog650]

I was wondering if the jump was on the first, red-flagged start or the second start? I thought it was the first start, as stated above, but now I'm not sure. Anyone still have the race saved?

2nd start...

[DogBoy]

Doh! Its a wonder I can get the socks BEFORE shoes routine correct every morning.

I have to eat my words on the part about no penalty for a lap that never happened.

[buls4evr]

   Sorry dogboy but those 600 guys aren't NAME riders to me. Name riders who USED TO BE at the REAL Daytona 200 had names like Hailwood, Sarrinen, Agostini, Mann, Yates, Duhamel, Zempke,Spies, Roberts and rode BIG bikes. They also rode on hard tires in the hot Florida sunlight on big unruly bikes and without a slow down chicane in many cases. If you look at the top 10 this yr those guys would have been the bottom 10 5 yrs ago. Looks like the senior, vintage circuit is back too with Ashmead back at it. Amateur racing with a big paycheck and no factory involvement at all. That's how I see it. Maybe Eslick , Rapp, Herrin could handle a superbike at the back of the field behind the really good experienced riders.DMG picked the wrong class to showcase and the fans know it. A few pirates still show up to puke in the stands though and that will still keep it going for awhile.

[DogBoy]

The world is different now and its never going back. The series are too specialized now and sponsor contracts too important. No appearance money any more either. The IOM used to be part of the GP circuit and that is never going to happen again either. Motorcycle road racing today really can't be compared to the '70s.

BTW, there is plenty of talent in the field. Rapp was a top ten superbike rider not long ago.

[buls4evr]

 At least we get to see the real talent in the world twice a year at Laguna and Indy including our own great riders on the Moto GP circuit. You are surely 100% correct in your statements dogboy. Daytona can not and will not ever be the same . I can't blame racers for going where the big $$$$ are either and that would be Europe.

[Busy Little Whiner]

Larry, nice picture. What's that little white-ish wire that's attached to the front brake line?

Electronic pick up for the Digital Instrument Cluster by Trans Logic

[Blunder]

 At least we get to see the real talent in the world twice a year at Laguna and Indy including our own great riders on the Moto GP circuit. You are surely 100% correct in your statements dogboy. Daytona can not and will not ever be the same . I can't blame racers for going where the big $$$$ are either and that would be Europe.

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the talent contending in the AMA Series. Yes, there are some old warhorses and some wannabes, but there are quite a few young and not quite so young racers out there making a living, somehow and sometimes just scratching by, but they're out there riding their asses off and if you pay attention you might be able to see it.

The old veterans once looked askance at some gap toothed kid from Modesto who wore Naugahyde racing suits and hailed from Lodi. I think his dad drove the local tow truck, or maybe it was his mother. Shit, you could never tell with that family. Anyways, what kind of World Class Racer could come out of this? The only thing you knew was that they cared for Kenny.

[buls4evr]

 
  JeffN some  good points....Everyone does have to start somewhere. Just not at the Daytona 200. You make an interesting point about KR but even the great KR  did not race in the 200 as a Junior  on a small bike. All of us know 600s are a joke when we have big bikes that should be out there with our BEST riders on them......Not some kid whose daddy has a Brazilian coffee plantation and 10 nice 600s and now can buy his way into a major race(or what used to be one). There is a reason there are no butts in those seats up there! Most of the real racing public is not fooled and will spend their money at Laguna or Indy or watch the Superbike series to see the best riders. The guys that won the 200 are backmarkers on a superbike. Yes, they will get better but not by staying on a 600 IMO.

[macdiver]

  
   All of us know 600s are a joke when we have big bikes that should be out there with our BEST riders on them......

Funny the best riders on the big bikes do not want to ride the big bikes in the 200.  I wish I could find the quote from one of the riders last week talking about how the big bikes are too dangerous due to tire wear.  The superbikes did run two sprint races at daytona this year.  It was typical race weekend for them.  

[Blunder]

The big bikes have always been dangerous at Daytona.

[buls4evr]

   Macdiver...You are aware that MotoGP is going back to the 1000cc bikes in 2012? Does that tell you what spectators worldwide want to see? What mfgrs want to race? If racing were SAFE everyone would be doing it. The real problem at Daytona is not the tires or the bikes but that BANKED TRACK and TOO MUCH OF IT. Just too much load and G force. They need to make most of the track in the infield like Indy did. No other race track in the world (including Monza) has a G load like Daytona.

[macdiver]

Buls4ever,

The 1000's do race at daytona.  The 1000's's  do two sprint races just like every other race weekend.  MotoGP or World superbike do not have any endurance races why is one expected for AMA superbike?  The Daytona 200 is an oddball race which is now run on oddball bikes, what's wrong with that?

[buls4evr]

  Yup, I agree macdiver. An odd race on an odd track NOT the "Greatest spectacle on two wheels" as advertised by DMG/Speedvision ad dept. Not even the greatest race in America.

[DogBoy]

Interesting write-up with a different perspective on Daytona this year.
(Highly Opinionated) Notes from the 2010 Daytona 200  

Words by Peter Jones