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100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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March 06, 2010, 07:40:42 AM »
Motorcycles could be subjected to 100bhp power limits under proposals to be set out by the European Commission this summer.
The Commission is expected to propose European-wide consistency on the issue, raising the prospect that countries will have to change in line with France, where a 100bhp limit is already in place.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/March/mar0510-100bhp-limit-looms-again/
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100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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March 06, 2010, 07:42:23 AM »
I see a radical shift to twins and triples with 80+ ft. lbs. of torque on tap at every RPM.
Otherwise...
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Quote from: JustCallMeChris on March 06, 2010, 07:42:23 AM
I see a radical shift to twins and triples with 80+ ft. lbs. of torque on tap at every RPM.
It would only be able to do 80 ft-lbs at speeds below about 6600 RPM and still comply with the law.
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Re: 100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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Well, there goes the FJR.....
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It's already the law in France. Expect large manifestations in Yurop if it goes through...
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Quote from: paddy_crow on March 06, 2010, 08:14:44 AM
It would only be able to do 80 ft-lbs at speeds below about 6600 RPM and still comply with the law.
Right. Hence the phrase "radical shift" for those who want POWER. It's why HP-based anything is silly. HP is a contrived number. A bike with 80lbs of torque out of the gate will get you to some wicked-scary speeds really fast, or will put an inexperienced rider into the shit REALLY fast and never approach a 100-HP limit.
It's silly.
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Re: 100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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Great. BMW finally unleashes a no holds barred hyperbike with enough power to go head to head with the competition, and now this.
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Re: 100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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Seems that we here in the states are always wanting the bikes that are only destined for everywhere but here. Now maybe the europeans will now say "I wish we could get all of the cool bikes that are sold in the USA"
Could happen
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Quote from: Andrew on March 06, 2010, 09:34:37 AM
Seems that we here in the states are always wanting the bikes that are only destined for everywhere but here. Now maybe the europeans will now say "I wish we could get all of the cool bikes that are sold in the USA"
Could happen
Harley may find themselves in a favorable position, exporting 75HP, 75ft.lb. torquers.
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All in the interest of "European-wide consistency" and "harmonisation", you understand.
I love the Brits--that business back in 1776 and 1812 is long forgotten. But they got themeselves into this mess when they were suckered into ceding their autonomy to the EU "parliament" and hordes of unelected bureaucrats dedicated to "harmonisation". And now they're stuck with horsepower restrictions set, by default, by the fucking French.
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This was proposed about ten years ago but abandoned when nobody could come up with any statistics which showed a correlation between horsepower and fatalities.
Just some bureaucrat trying to make a name for himself no doubt. Let's hope the idea gets binned again.
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Quote from: county on March 06, 2010, 08:25:26 AM
Well, there goes the FJR.....
I bet you're thrilled aren't you?
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Quote from: Wanderer on March 06, 2010, 11:14:35 AM
I bet you're thrilled aren't you?
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Quote from: Aero on March 06, 2010, 10:54:16 AM
This was proposed about ten years ago but abandoned when nobody could come up with any statistics which showed a correlation between horsepower and fatalities.
Just some bureaucrat trying to make a name for himself no doubt. Let's hope the idea gets binned again.
I hope you're right...even a Griso makes 105BHP
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Re: 100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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Quote from: Aero on March 06, 2010, 10:54:16 AM
This was proposed about ten years ago but abandoned when nobody could come up with any statistics which showed a correlation between horsepower and fatalities.
Just some bureaucrat trying to make a name for himself no doubt. Let's hope the idea gets binned again.
Right, the article says: France is the only one with such a limit today, and there's no correlation study to suggest a benefit.
Rational conclusion: Tell France to remove their restriction and align with everyone else.
Bureaucratic conclusion: Make a new law to align everyone else with France.
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Re: 100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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I think the French still long for the days when they ruled the...., ah, when they had the greatest..., when there leaders were looked upon with admir... , when they made the best wines and cheeses ..., well no one can say they still aren't the most arrogant and pious.
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Re: 100bhp limit and mandatory ABS proposed for EU
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Pull a gun, France will surrender
Some of the fastest machines are made in Europe, cars and bikes, I don't get it.
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One more reason to hate the French
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Frog-giggin' anyone?
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Quote from: Aero on March 06, 2010, 10:54:16 AM
This was proposed about ten years ago but abandoned when nobody could come up with any statistics which showed a correlation between horsepower and fatalities.
Just some bureaucrat trying to make a name for himself no doubt. Let's hope the idea gets binned again.
Wasn't that sponsored by some Belgian pol? Bruggemann or something like that?
I remember the proposed mandatory leg protectors, too. Hopefully it will all go away.
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