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« on: March 11, 2010, 10:41:22 PM »

I believe at this point we are fully prepared to field many of the questions that have been surrounding the new MTS.  
The articles that have just come out have given us all some feedback we have all been starving for!   Inlove    This week more tech information was released to the dealers who attended the technical update class.  Our lead tech has been thoroughly trained and had the opportunity to have hands on, in depth.  Marty has over thirty years working in dealerships on motorcycles and has just past his four year mark with us.  He has had his hands on just about every type of motor out there, except HD.  I listened to all of his stories and explanations about the new features and innovations.  In the end I still asked him to tell me what he saw as the downsides to this new model....  he paused and then said point blank, "none"  

Starting tomorrow we will do our best to answer any and all questions about this incredible new motorcycle.  I will encourage a few of my other employees Eric and Adam to participate as well..  
 
We are a dedicated Ducati only dealership and we work hard to be the best at what we do. we are very excited about this new chapter for Ducati.   We have been allowed to increase our initial order but we have a feeling we may still come up short.   Don't sit on the fence too long.

For those of you who have reserved a bike with us already, watch for a very special Ducati Seattle VIP event announcement coming in April   Bigok    We just locked down confirmation on this with Ducati NA tonight!
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 11:43:14 PM »

I got an email from one of the dealers I've got a deposit down with, yesterday. They're having an open House April 10th and said they'd have the new Multistrada there. I got briefly excited thinking deliveries would actually happen in April, 'early' April even.

Wishful thinking I guess. I called them today and got word NA deliveries won't be till May. Seems some of the press-fleet is being distributed around to NA dealers in the mean time.

Have you heard any 'hints' on first/second half of May for first arrivals? I've got a week and a half of ripping up Northern California roads scheduled starting May 22nd. Looks like it'll come down to the wire as far as which bike I'll be riding  Sad .
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 04:11:00 AM »


I believe at this point we are fully prepared to field many of the questions that have been surrounding the new MTS.  
The articles that have just come out have given us all some feedback we have all been starving for!   Inlove    This week more tech information was released to the dealers who attended the technical update class.  Our lead tech has been thoroughly trained and had the opportunity to have hands on, in depth.  Marty has over thirty years working in dealerships on motorcycles and has just past his four year mark with us.  He has had his hands on just about every type of motor out there, except HD.  I listened to all of his stories and explanations about the new features and innovations.  In the end I still asked him to tell me what he saw as the downsides to this new model....  he paused and then said point blank, "none"  

Starting tomorrow we will do our best to answer any and all questions about this incredible new motorcycle.  I will encourage a few of my other employees Eric and Adam to participate as well..  
 
We are a dedicated Ducati only dealership and we work hard to be the best at what we do. we are very excited about this new chapter for Ducati.   We have been allowed to increase our initial order but we have a feeling we may still come up short.   Don't sit on the fence too long.

For those of you who have reserved a bike with us already, watch for a very special Ducati Seattle VIP event announcement coming in April   Bigok    We just locked down confirmation on this with Ducati NA tonight!


With all due respect to you and your tech, to say the bike has no downsides at this point is a little optimistic. I hope you will remain as forthright and committed to the brand and owners as you appear to be ( Thumbsup) when problems start showing up, and they will. May they be few, but I can't see any bike with as soo many and such interconnected technologies not having some downsides based on the simple principle that the more parts you have, the more systems you have, the more things you have that will go wrong at some point: simple but true. Smile  
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 05:09:01 AM »

Did you find out how many labor hours are listed for the valve check/adjustments?
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 07:58:15 AM »




With all due respect to you and your tech, to say the bike has no downsides at this point is a little optimistic. I hope you will remain as forthright and committed to the brand and owners as you appear to be ( Thumbsup) when problems start showing up, and they will. May they be few, but I can't see any bike with as soo many and such interconnected technologies not having some downsides based on the simple principle that the more parts you have, the more systems you have, the more things you have that will go wrong at some point: simple but true. Smile  


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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 08:04:21 AM »


Did you find out how many labor hours are listed for the valve check/adjustments?


I do not have it on paper but as described the 600 should be about 1.5hr, 7500 is about the same or a bit less.  15K will take a bit less time than the current layout in a 1198 SBK.  They have offered decent access to the motor with fairly straight forward bodywork removal..  Anticipate 6.5hr for the major is what we were told.  Belts will be 15K or 5 years replacement cycle on this model.  
I will review the information more thoroughly later today to see if there was a chart shown as well.  
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 08:15:23 AM »

Thanks for the response, Dave.  I appreciate having you on board here at STN.   Thumbsup

I stopped by your shop the other year, and I really liked the place.  Even wore the t-shirt again today.  Bigsmile  Embarassment
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 08:22:22 AM »




If you say so


Already the kind of response that gives me a negative feeling about your post.  Why not respond with something like, "I understand your point of view and can only say that we'll do our best to support our belief that his bike has no downsides"?

Still, I'm quite the fan of the new Duc and hope that it opens up more than a few eyes that are zeroed in on a specific manufacturer!
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 08:25:51 AM »

 Drool

Can't wait.  I REALLY need to find time to ride this summer. Rolleyes

Okay, now for my standard question that no one has been able to answer:  Are the accessory outlets really only 3 amp per the specs/literature?

That's all I got. Lol
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2010, 08:43:30 AM »




Already the kind of response that gives me a negative feeling about your post.  Why not respond with something like, "I understand your point of view and can only say that we'll do our best to support our belief that his bike has no downsides"?

Still, I'm quite the fan of the new Duc and hope that it opens up more than a few eyes that are zeroed in on a specific manufacturer!


sorry, still pre coffee for me..  
I really didn't intend this thread to be a debate area about the technology used on the new Multi.  I was hoping I would be able to answer specific questions about this new model and let other posts debate the validity of the technology used.  Yes it is a new frontier but 99% of the new technology is not new, just new to Ducati.    
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2010, 10:13:00 AM »




sorry, still pre coffee for me..  
I really didn't intend this thread to be a debate area about the technology used on the new Multi.  I was hoping I would be able to answer specific questions about this new model and let other posts debate the validity of the technology used.  Yes it is a new frontier but 99% of the new technology is not new, just new to Ducati.    


LOL @ pre coffee!  Especially for a Friday.

Oh oh oh...I have a question!!!   Bigsmile

I'm inseam challenged...would some type of lowering link have too negative an impact on the electronic suspension settings?
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 10:48:45 AM »


 Drool

Can't wait.  I REALLY need to find time to ride this summer. Rolleyes

Okay, now for my standard question that no one has been able to answer:  Are the accessory outlets really only 3 amp per the specs/literature?

That's all I got. Lol


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Per Ducati's specs the two outlets will handle up to 6 amps together.   There will also be a dedicated plug in for the optional Ducati Garmin GPS up at the instrument panel.
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 10:53:45 AM »




We'll get you on a bike ASAP.  We are to receive our Demo bike first the S Touring version.  Oh course, yours truly, Eric Z, gets to scrub in the tires.  Oh, the things I have to do make my customers safe and happy!!!   Rolleyes

Per Ducati's specs the two outlets will handle up to 6 amps together.   There will also be a dedicated plug in for the optional Ducati Garmin GPS up at the instrument panel.



They must have changed the specs then.  If so 6 amps is much better.  Should be able to handle a heated vest or pants. Thumbsup
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2010, 11:34:50 AM »




They must have changed the specs then.  If so 6 amps is much better.  Should be able to handle a heated vest or pants. Thumbsup




Per Ducati's specs the two outlets will handle up to 6 amps together.  


Note the key words ... "up to 6 amps together".  Does that mean 3 amps EACH outlet?  Still not clear IMO.
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 11:58:27 AM »






Note the key words ... "up to 6 amps together".  Does that mean 3 amps EACH outlet?  Still not clear IMO.


Six together. They're both on the same 6 amp fuse. So.....
6+0
5+1
4+2
3+3
2+4
1+5
you get the idea.
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 12:11:11 PM »

A little strange that the stock accessory plug on my St4s is 10A.

Not that I use it...
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2010, 01:40:20 PM »

6 amp shared is still better than 3 amps separate.  Still good enough to power a heated vest on one and charge some stuff in a seat bag on the other.  Maybe some wire tweaking will allow refusing each to 6 amps, if the up stream harness can handle up to 12 amps.  My guess is not though.

Typically I use (ie install) one socket in the rear where they are on the MTS for heating something, and another in the front fairing to power some device.
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2010, 01:47:02 PM »


6 amp shared is still better than 3 amps separate.  Still good enough to power a heated vest on one and charge some stuff in a seat bag on the other.  Maybe some wire tweaking will allow refusing each to 6 amps, if the up stream harness can handle up to 12 amps.  My guess is not though.

Typically I use (ie install) one socket in the rear where they are on the MTS for heating something, and another in the front fairing to power some device.


we were told that there is some hope for a higher output alternator being offered up to those who need more amperage..  Sounds like it may be one from a different model already in use.  
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2010, 01:58:30 PM »

If the alternator is sized for 6 amps of sockets (and heated grips on the touring S), and a GPS connection up front I'm probably good.  I don't go really crazy like some guys do when adding electrical madness.  I want to heat my core, hands, and power some gizmos. Thumbsup
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2010, 02:06:53 PM »

Dave R:

How much of the service REQUIRES specialized equipment?  For example, I do the services on my MTS DS1000.  The valves, the belts, etc.  I reset the wrench indicator with technoresearch tool and set the belts with 4mm method.  Works great.

With the 4V motor and new systems on this Multistrada, is that all over?
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