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Question: What would it take for you to buy an electric bike? Duh.
Never would I do such a thing! - 18 (11%)
Price - 13 (7.9%)
Insane speed - 5 (3%)
If Kenny Roberts bought one (unlikely) - 1 (0.6%)
If a trusted Marque made one - 9 (5.5%)
Distance capability - 22 (13.4%)
Price, decent speed, distance capability - 79 (48.2%)
Anything to annoy my neighbour - 1 (0.6%)
Give me all your money - 16 (9.8%)
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« on: April 13, 2010, 12:03:27 PM »

It could be the future-electricity-so, what would make you buy a lecky bike?

Any current model you'd buy?

What do you want from such a thing? Speed, how far it can go, cheapness?
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2010, 12:12:07 PM »

A complete lack of fossil fuels or replica fossil fuels (ethanol, etc.).
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2010, 12:14:15 PM »

Well, there ends the market research...
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 03:53:02 PM »

All they would hafta do for me is make an electric FJR...... Thumbsup

Actually it would be pretty easy, power it electrically and run a coupla wires to the windshield controller.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 05:06:07 PM »

What would it take?  A better exhaust note...
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 05:27:01 PM »

No sound, no buy ...
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 05:37:35 PM »

similar range/performance to a KLR650 (baseline)

refueling infrastructure to allow for >150 mile rides

up the republic
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 09:22:27 AM »


similar range/performance to a KLR650 (baseline)

refueling infrastructure to allow for >150 mile rides


That's funny.
Before I even got to this post I was thinking if it had similar 0-60, top speed and 'fuel' range as something like a KLR650, I'd be in.  
I would of course require another bike in addition to handle touring duties, but for a ride to work/errands bike an electric KLR would be tits.  
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 09:25:32 AM »

I'd rather buy a bike that ran on thinly sliced dolphin meat. I'm sure that would annoy somebody.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 07:57:25 PM »


No sound, no buy ...


Put baseball cards in the spokes.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 11:53:22 PM »

If it gotta be electric, I want a nuclear powered bike!  Or if it has to be an "alternative" fuel bike to keep the tree huggers happy how about nitromethane. haha...
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 05:56:52 AM »

I'd be into them if the bikes had the range and the infrastructure was there to make it practical. Oh yeah, and if I had the $$
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 08:14:16 AM »

I have no interest in a electric street bike but a dirt bike on the other hand would be sweet. Flying through the woods of northern Michigan scaring the feck outa deer and hikers? Count me in  Thumbsup
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2010, 08:53:38 PM »

no chance, I love the sound of the triple and a v-four way to much
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2010, 07:34:51 AM »


I have no interest in a electric street bike but a dirt bike on the other hand would be sweet. Flying through the woods of northern Michigan scaring the feck outa deer and hikers? Count me in  Thumbsup


I can't speak for others, but the last time I carried weapons in the woods, I tended to shoot at things that scared me.

Just sayin
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2010, 12:18:30 PM »




I can't speak for others, but the last time I carried weapons in the woods, I tended to shoot at things that scared me.

Just sayin


Me too. Hmmm.... a shootout with some hippies? I've got no problem with that  Shrug
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2010, 12:53:07 PM »




Me too. Hmmm.... a shootout with some hippies? I've got no problem with that  Shrug


LOL -- nah, in my case they were short and brown . . . . .

What's a matter sam, did a hippy scare you at an early age?

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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2010, 07:32:13 AM »




LOL -- nah, in my case they were short and brown . . . . .

What's a matter sam, did a hippy scare you at an early age?

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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2010, 10:06:12 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2010, 10:28:30 AM »


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It can't be done twice, sorry  Bigsmile
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2010, 12:26:50 PM »

I'd need at least 80 miles on a charge, despite time between charges (to a reasonable degree - sometimes morning and evening commute are separated by 12 hours...) and charge up time of no more than 8 hours.

Of course, it would have to be able to run about 100mph, handle the slab without a problem, and give that 80 miles capacity even if flogged to death by a very twisty wrist. (commute is 24 miles x 2, so adding in 30 or so as a cushion should be sufficient - dinner or after work meetings, etc.).

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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2010, 02:20:06 PM »

All specs comparable to my current ride.  HP, range, and quick recharge being key.  I can refuel in less than five minutes, but an electric has to charge for 8 hours?  Who cares if it's dirt cheap to charge.  If it can't do 80mph for 2 hours and 0-60 in four seconds, what's the point?  Just get a scooter if you're worried about mileage.  Hell of a lot cheaper than electrics at this point.
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2010, 01:02:15 PM »

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Eventually they will get comparable if not competitive with chemically powered machines,  but they will never have the "character" of heat, stink, and noise bellowing contraptions.  How do you think Harley Davidson has managed to stay in business this long?  
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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2010, 02:33:14 PM »

Heat, stink and noise are my least favorite things about the internal combustion engine. I'd happily ride a jetson-mobile.  
I honestly can't see how refueling/recharging is ever going to be feasible though so it's really a non issue until the oil is gone.
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2010, 12:50:15 PM »

Even if your electric sport-touring bike had a range of say, 200 miles per charge... then what?  How many hours do you sit on your butt waiting for it to recharge?  

The only way around that is upping the charging system voltage, which creates huge infrastructure and safety issues when you imagine such a system in place in thousands of locations around the country.

Sorry folks, after the hydrocarbons run out, we're gonna be hoofing it.  Thumbsdown


I honestly can't see how refueling/recharging is ever going to be feasible though so it's really a non issue until the oil is gone.


Exactly.  But when that happens, are we going all pull together and devise some technological way out of our dilemma?  No, we're going to go nuts and start killing each other over the 20th Century's table scraps.
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2010, 01:44:33 PM »

250 miles at full output, another 50 at declining power. I do not want to end up pushing. If it takes more than 10 minutes to get a full charge, forget it. Charging needs to be in the 5 minutes range to charge fully and charging stations need to be in convenient locations. Any 20 amp/115 V plug should be the standard. No special plugs and voltage outlets only available in 4 places worldwide.

Unless you limit the bike to a 50 mile commuter who travel straight to work and back, it is too limited. Then an overnite charge might work, but to me it is not what motorcycling is all about. What commuter does not live for the weekends and an open road?

I would give up the hum of the exhaust for blinding acceleration. I can always stick a baseball card in the spokes if the world is streaming by too quietly.

I did not vote because no selection came close to reality. I do not ride a motorcycle for mere conveyance from one place to another. While it will do that, so will a cage and a GEO gets better mpg.
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2010, 03:59:44 AM »


The only way around that is upping the charging system voltage, which creates huge infrastructure and safety issues when you imagine such a system in place in thousands of locations around the country.



Less than you might think.  Electrical power distribution is done at much higher voltages than are currently used at the consumer end.  Different transformers would give you a different final voltage.. but I'm not sure that's even necessary.  How about making the batteries standard and easily swappable?  Charging stations then work like propane exchanges work today.  Swap your dead battery for a charged one for a set fee then be on your way.  The charging station tests and recharges the battery, then makes it available for the next rider.  As long as the batteries are standardized, you could even automate the charging station.

I just don't see it happening any time soon.  At 80 miles to a charge, it's pretty useless for someone like me.  I can't use a bike for commuting - I need to carry ~800 lbs of tools and supplies with me daily, so my office sits in my driveway at night.  When I get out to ride, it's rarely for less than 100 miles, and I won't buy something that would artificially limit that.
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