Loud Pipes Bill goes to the Governator's desk in California

[veefer800canuck]

Motorcyclists who swap their bikes' stock exhaust systems for so-called loud pipes may be more likely to get a traffic ticket under a California bill that passed the Senate on Monday. SB 435, also known as the Motorcycle Anti-Tampering Act, gives law enforcement officials the ability to cite noise pollution violations under the California Vehicle Code, reinforcing a 27-year-old federal regulation that is rarely enforced.

So they are going to pass a law that says it's illegal to break this other law?  

[Andrew]

So they are going to pass a law that says it's illegal to break this other law?  

Yep that about sums it up

I for one love the sound of a well tuned machine, but not if it is loud.
There is almost no better sound than a 6V92 with the header pipes open, but thats only on the shop could not run it on the road.


There seems to be a group thing in the Vtwain crowd to do with being loud and shaking the ground.
One of my coworkers, who rides an american Vtwain, and  I were talking about why I wore a HI VIZ lime green jacket and had extra running lights on my BMW. She remarked that the BMW was too quiet and I might get run over  and how her HD needed to have exhaust work done (by the dealer) to make it sound like it should. "Well it's a Harley they are suposto be like that"  No sense even trying to continue the conversation at that point

[J Paul]

Anybody who thinks a 6v92 sounds good must be deaf-thank God the ear raping oil leaks are long out of production. Even a Kawi triple with unmuffled chambers sounds better.

[Andrew]

Actually I liked the sound of my Kawasaki triples when they got up on the pipe

Yes the 6V92 was a big pile of dog shit as a power plants go, but they did sound great when run with the header pipe from the cyl head to turbo off

[Walker]

According to the Air Resources Board, which backed the smog-check version of SB 435, motorcycles account for less than 1% of vehicle-miles traveled in the state yet account for 10% of passenger vehicles' smog-forming emissions; swapping a compliant tailpipe equipped with a catalytic converter for one without emissions controls can emit as many as 10 times more smog-forming pollutants per mile.

Without having read the whole thread, I call particular BS on this 'fact'.  It is immediatly suspect because it came from CARB, the same assholes who have successfully banned any decent fuel container such as a NATO jerry can and now you can only buy the craptastic CARB compliant fuel containers that are sure to leak half of your fuel on the ground before you can pour it in.

[Walker]

How many of your bikes have stock exhaust?

My bike has the stock pipes.  I really like having 'stealth mode' on my bike... I can run 47 in a 35 down the main drag through town in 5th gear reving really low without anyone giving me a second glance.

That being said, we have a noise dosimeter out at work, I think I'll have our industrial hygenest test my bike for me.

[Walker]

Yeah that is what "police ourselves" means, clearly YOU get it.  We should stop each other and berate one another for our loud bikes and so on.  

Or, perhaps a more open minded person would see this as meaning we shouldn't encourage the use of overly loud pipes, stunting in public, aggressive riding, etc we should be more aware of where we ride and how we ride, we should be helping younger riders understand the impact of riding like an asshole in residential areas and so on.

When we are in a group of riders and someone acts like that, on road or off road, or they have a straight pipes in your riding group, then hell yes, by policing ourselves it means, saying something to that person, seeing if we can make them aware of the damage they are doing to all riders and riding areas (in the case of off road).

Is that so hard to do as an individual?  Nope, and if all of us did so, the message would be made and more often than not followed.  

You gain more by leading by example than by pissing and moaning when legislation is targeted at us.  You say it is because we are small and easy to bully around, I say bullshit on that, it is because every asswipe that rips down a road in first gear at 9000 RPM with a D&D pipe, or every cruiser that sits at a red light next to some soccer mom revving the snot out of his bike brought these laws to us.  Every asswipe that wheelies down the highway brought this on and we are a riding group have done nothing to curb this behavior, quite the opposite, we encouraged it.

Well good luck with that.  Let us know how it works out for you.

[swimmer]

  for the guy quoted at the end of the article.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_motorcycle_noise

[stevent]

I like the stock pipes on my bike stealth mode is defo the way to go..................


Oh wait I forgot it's a Harley......(ahem) Fuck stock pipes! Loud Pipes save lives!!! stop De' Gub'ment from infringing on my right to be an obnoxious noisy asshole DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 



(ahem)....like I was sayin.....