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« on: September 17, 2010, 07:08:58 PM »



 I want a tl1000.  I think they are one of the best looking bikes ever made.  I was going to buy this one, but it just does not have the giddy up that I was looking for.  Dam dam dam dam.  I can't stop thinking about it.  
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2010, 07:16:36 PM »

Yeah, 115 HP and 70 ft/lbs is totally for weak babies.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 07:22:04 PM »

Must be something wrong with the one you tried (besides an ugly paint job).  TLs only problem was too much HP and torque for the frame and suspension technology at the time.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 07:34:57 PM »


  TLs only problem was too much HP and torque for the frame and suspension technology at the time. Suzuki applied


The truth. There were many bikes putting out more power that handled far better. Nothing Ohlins.Penske and a serious diet won't fix.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 08:28:53 PM »

Of every bike I have ever ridden in the last 27 yrs, the best motor, bar none, was a TL1000R. Aside from the char broiled right thigh.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 08:52:32 PM »


Yeah, 115 HP and 70 ft/lbs is totally for weak babies.


That would keep me happy.  I say get it.  
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 I want a tl1000.  I think they are one of the best looking bikes ever made.  I was going to buy this one, but it just does not have the giddy up that I was looking for.  Dam dam dam dam.  I can't stop thinking about it.  


Something must have been wrong.  My brother-in-law had one- near impossible to keep the front end down on hard acceleration.  Of course his had all the engine mods done, but whoa...   Bigsmile < all day.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2010, 09:37:21 PM »

1) Purchase TL1000r
2) Upgrade shock
3) Gear lower with new sprockets/chain
4) Install quick-turn throttle
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2010, 04:58:27 AM »

It would be a 4th bike for me and I want something that is faster than my concours 14, that also would handle better.  I think the TL1000 is the pretties bike that has been made, but it is tame in the motor end.  I would bet it is the slowest of the liter bikes.  I would be owning it right now if I had not ridden it before I bought it.  

O well a busa, or zx14 will come along at the right deal sooner or later.  The busa or 14 will just not be as pretty.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2010, 05:02:46 AM »

Buy the TL1000, drop it off to me for a turbo install...... then it will be fast enough.  Bigok
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2010, 06:30:44 AM »

Faster than the C14 and handles better.

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2010, 07:15:45 AM »

6000 rpm on a single cylinder thumper is like 14,000 rpm on an inline 4  Bigsmile

115 hp v-twin sounds just about right to me  Smile
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2010, 07:37:01 AM »

The one gripe I had with my RC51 was the lack of power. Sure he handled ok and looked good but it sure was frustrating having 600's right there with me on the straights. But then again maybe I have issues because the 186/109 my ZX14 laid down on the dyno just about bores me to tears. Did someone say turbo?
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2010, 07:43:25 AM »

I never realized the street was a racetrack till now .Seriously, Underpowered? Headscratch
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2010, 07:58:27 AM »

Good thing I ride the fastest bikes ever built. *whew* Wink
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2010, 11:33:07 AM »

It is not about riding 150, it is about the pull the bike puts on the bars.  Fast to 70 or so.  The TL1000 just did not do it for me.  It felt 750 ish.

Not like a liter bike.  I was hoping for the pull you find from an R1 or gxsr 1000 and it just is not there.  If it was, the bike would be in the garage right now.  Like I said, looks sweet, sounds sweet, but low on thrill.  
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2010, 12:59:20 PM »

Sounds like that bike isn't representative of the TLs I've ridden. Overweight turds but ran like a '72 Cadillac with a 502 CI engine. No lack of grunt whatsoever.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2010, 03:47:13 PM »

The TL isn;'t a litrebike. Nor is the RC51. Never was.Both were invented to compete with 750 cc fours in racing, back when superbike rules pitted 750cc fours against 1000 cc twins, thanks to Ducati having the rules structure modified to suit themselves.
When compared to a 750 cc four (GSXR?) the TL is very competetive in the motor department.
Would a GSXR1000 suck the paint right off it? Absolutely.
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...when superbike ules pitted 7500cc fours...


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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2010, 11:52:12 PM »

I once spoke to a fellow that had one who wished his had more power to accelerate out of tank slappers.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2010, 10:54:55 AM »

TL1000 + Yosh. pipes makes my ears cum.  'Nuff said.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2010, 05:19:56 PM »

I had a 97 TLS, sounded great, I never thought it was slow, but I know for a fact my C14 handled better than the TL. Maybe it's because the corners seemed to come up faster.
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The reason BMW's boxer twin has been around since Napoleon marched on Moscow is because of what it's good at.

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The reason BMW's boxer twin has been around since Napoleon marched on Moscow is because of what it's good at.

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Torque will set you free  Bigsmile


You're talking to someone who doesn't think a TL1000 is powerful enough. Rolleyes I'm guessing he's not a huge boxer fan.  Bigsmile
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2010, 01:50:15 PM »

If it is going to be a sport bike, It should make you want to hold on.  I have a KLR and a Versys and a Concours 14.  I was looking for something that pulled harder than the C14.  The TL 1000 is not that bike... It is cool looking, and sounds great, but not much of a thrill to ride.  

TL 1000 = Fast looking slow bike.  
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 I want a tl1000.  I think they are one of the best looking bikes ever made.  I was going to buy this one, but it just does not have the giddy up that I was looking for.  Dam dam dam dam.  I can't stop thinking about it.  

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If it is going to be a sport bike, It should make you want to hold on.  I have a KLR and a Versys and a Concours 14.  I was looking for something that pulled harder than the C14.  The TL 1000 is not that bike... It is cool looking, and sounds great, but not much of a thrill to ride.  

TL 1000 = Fast looking slow bike.  


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There's more to riding than straight lines.  Rolleyes


Which the TL is good for, I preferred my SV650 on the turny roads.
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If it is going to be a sport bike, It should make you want to hold on.  I have a KLR and a Versys and a Concours 14.  I was looking for something that pulled harder than the C14.  The TL 1000 is not that bike... It is cool looking, and sounds great, but not much of a thrill to ride.  

TL 1000 = Fast looking slow bike.  


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There's more to riding than straight lines.  Rolleyes


There's also downshifting.  Which he's apparently been avoiding.
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Which the TL is good for, I preferred my SV650 on the turny roads.


Handling can be fixed . Especially if you don't pay that much for the bike.
If you need the extra rush of more than 115 hp, Just buy a GSXR. Shrug I never would, but you have to feed you demons.
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Handling can be fixed . Especially if you don't pay that much for the bike.



This is true, and I'm sure an upgrade to the suspenders would help, but that motor was too much for the frame.

It was fun to wheelie out of the corners though. Thumbsup
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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2010, 04:50:06 PM »

Hell my RZ350 only makes about 70HP. Come chase me down some mountain roads. Horsepower is overrated.
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There's also downshifting.  Which he's apparently been avoiding.


Thats why I was looking for a bike that handled better than the c14...
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tired of the peg dragging, i wanted more lean angle.  I know about downshifting as I like quick downshift and pulling the front tire off the ground as highway speeds.  Which is something that the tl1000 will not do.  

RZ350 what a great bike.  I used to ride one back in the late 80s. What a fsun bike that was.  I can have fun on just about any bike.  The KLR and the versys are lower hourspower bikes and thy are great fun.  Matter of fact if I could only have one bike, the verys would be right at the top of the bikes to have.  

I was and am looking for a bike that is brutally fast and handles well.  It is not something I need as it would be a 4th bike.  It also would have to be a deal.  You see I do not want to  put plates and insurance on a bike that is simular to a bike that I already have plates and insurance on.
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Hell my RZ350 only makes about 70HP. Come chase me down some mountain roads. Horsepower is overrated.


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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2010, 05:04:01 AM »

Sounds like you want a lightly used 1000cc four. Probably something circa 2005/2006 would be cheap and light and handle well. Pick the one that suits you best for ergos (or can be made to suit you) and rock on. Wouldn't have the sound of a twin, but the brutal acceleration would be there. GSXRs and ZX-10s were known for having really strong low/midrange power.
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Thats why I was looking for a bike that handled better than the c14...

tired of the peg dragging, i wanted more lean angle.  I know about downshifting as I like quick downshift and pulling the front tire off the ground as highway speeds.  Which is something that the tl1000 will not do.  

RZ350 what a great bike.  I used to ride one back in the late 80s. What a fsun bike that was.  I can have fun on just about any bike.  The KLR and the versys are lower hourspower bikes and thy are great fun.  Matter of fact if I could only have one bike, the verys would be right at the top of the bikes to have.  

I was and am looking for a bike that is brutally fast and handles well.  It is not something I need as it would be a 4th bike.  It also would have to be a deal.  You see I do not want to  put plates and insurance on a bike that is simular to a bike that I already have plates and insurance on.



Why not pick up a used Gixxer 750? There a ton of them for sale (in my city at least).  Thumbsup
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Hell my RZ350 only makes about 70HP. Come chase me down some mountain roads. Horsepower is overrated.


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