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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2010, 10:21:21 AM »

I don't really see a tremendous difference.  The front end is basically the same (The fork reflector is gone on the stock bike and the handlebars are lower).  Other than that, the front looks the same; it's not like you notice the 17" front rim.  The rear looks like a typical Japanese race replica. Meh. Shrug
The most striking visual difference is the V&H exhaust which looks very cool.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2010, 10:50:44 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2010, 02:29:30 PM »


I don't really see a tremendous difference.  The front end is basically the same (The fork reflector is gone on the stock bike and the handlebars are lower).  Other than that, the front looks the same; it's not like you notice the 17" front rim.  The rear looks like a typical Japanese race replica. Meh. Shrug
The most striking visual difference is the V&H exhaust which looks very cool.


It nearly is always just the few small changes that make all the difference in the way a bike looks.  That's what makes it a bit frustrating that the bike did not look like the V&H one from the factory to start off with.
Single seat, narrow tail section.  Why couldn't this be stock?  Harley sells lots of bikes with no passenger accomodations and as this is their sportiest, why not?
The lower handlebars would be great too.
Granted, some of these changes are really easy to do in your own garage - the pipes and handlebar.  But the 17" wheel is pricey.  The tail section would need work done to accept tail lights etc.  Do-able, butt again annoying as it should have looked like this anyway!
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2010, 03:19:47 PM »




It nearly is always just the few small changes that make all the difference in the way a bike looks.  That's what makes it a bit frustrating that the bike did not look like the V&H one from the factory to start off with.
Single seat, narrow tail section.  Why couldn't this be stock?  Harley sells lots of bikes with no passenger accomodations and as this is their sportiest, why not?
The lower handlebars would be great too.
Granted, some of these changes are really easy to do in your own garage - the pipes and handlebar.  But the 17" wheel is pricey.  The tail section would need work done to accept tail lights etc.  Do-able, butt again annoying as it should have looked like this anyway!



I think HD is the exception to the rule of making a bike that fits "Everyone".  They offer single seat models but this is something no other mfg really does, particularly on a volume-based machine.  Yes, companies like Ducati turn out single seat versions but these are for limited-production (IE: limited customer), rather expensive models.
So I think it's unreasonable to expect HD to make the XR1200 a single seater.  I do not see single seat FZ1's, ZX1000's, etc. Wink
One of the biggest complaints you hear today about new bikes is their horrible exhaust systems.  As riders, we've been tossing exhaust systems since the day of the flood, so I fail to see how their choice in an exhaust system is a big deal.  
The lower handlebars probably make the bike more uncomfortable.  'Nuff said about that.  A 600lb pseudo race replica?  Yeah, right.
The ONLY reason the V&H bike has a 17" front rim is to accept race rubber.  That's it.  The bike handles WORSE with a 17" wheel.  Seriously, there's an article in Cycle World right now that supports this statement.  The bike handles fine, why does it have to have a 17" rim?? Shrug
As I stated earlier, the V&H tail section simply does not look "Better" than the OE tail section.  It looks Japanese, that's all.
Throw the V&H system on a stock bike (Something many owners will do anyway) and you have a winner.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2010, 03:28:26 PM »



 
The lower handlebars probably make the bike more uncomfortable.  'Nuff said about that. ...

Throw the V&H system on a stock bike (Something many owners will do anyway) and you have a winner.


About the handlebars, I rode one with the standard bars and found it too wide and too high for me.  IMO it made the bike less comfortable than it should be for its purpose.  It felt like it was a sporty bike but someone thought they had to put cruiser bars on it, maybe to expand its appeal?

Anyway, you're right.  The bulk of the changes are two easy fixes  - the pipe and the bars.
Interesting info about the 17' wheel making the bike handle worse.  I was under the impression that that was because they jacked up the rear with much longer shocks, not because of the smaller diameter wheel.
Just for street use, having a 17 on the front would vastly expand the selection of tyres.
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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2010, 06:57:13 PM »

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the italians were tricking them even more back in 08...both rims, brakes, forks, clamps, pistons, the frkn kitcn sink...

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« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2010, 11:08:13 PM »

1st video was spoiled by some crappy music so you couldn't hear the bikes.

2nd one - cool.  Damn that's a large grid!  
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