Welcome to ST.N
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
May 26, 2012, 11:47:29 AM
"The home of triple digit sight-seeing."
Home
Forums
Photo Gallery
Login
Register
Shop @ MG.C
Shop @ ST.N
Contact
Sport-Touring.Net
»
The Open Road
»
General Sport-Touring Discussion
» Topic:
Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
Pages:
1
[
2
]
All
Go Down
Print
Topic: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident (Read 2136 times)
0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.
Biking Sailor
Reputation 5
Offline
Years Contributed: '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: Couple of Guzzis, couple of Suzukis, and a Honda, and a Kawasaki.
GPS: Edmond, OK
Miles Typed: 601
My Photo Gallery
Fast and smooth, or you will be caught!
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #20 on:
October 07, 2010, 11:19:27 AM »
Quote from: boogeyman on October 07, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
Well, you coulda kicked a mirror off on the way by the crashed cars, if you'd been thinking a little faster. But, all in all, not to shabby.
I'm just impressed he could throw BB's that far in front of him!
Logged
"Your Guzzi isn't here to do your bidding, you're here to do her bidding." -- Orson
"when you're riding a Guzzi you know you're riding a MOTORBIKE and not some
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #20 on:
October 07, 2010, 11:19:27 AM »
Logged
TuffguyF4i
Reputation -165
Offline
Motorcycles: '02 F4i, '99 1100xx, '04 GSXR 750
GPS: Farmington, CT
Miles Typed: 2720
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #21 on:
October 07, 2010, 11:47:42 AM »
You could not have put better into words, why i do NOT commute on my bike.
Ever notice how many of the close call stories on here, are on my way to work? I'm sure that has alot to do with the frequency of that ride and miles traveled, but you are dealing with sleepy/aggressive/pissed off people on their way to work. Not a fun ride for sure.
Take it for what its worth, but i don't see the point in riding to work unless you have a fun ride.
Logged
big government leads to socialism which leads to communism
Eventually the people rise as the people always do, and then the government exerts it's power in the form of totalitarian rule to viole
rgbeard
Reputation 29
Offline
Years Contributed: '09, '10
Motorcycles: 2001 Speed Triple, 2001 Trophy 1200, 1984 GL1200
GPS: Bonsall, CA, Ensenada, Mexico & Phx, AZ
Miles Typed: 3706
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #22 on:
October 07, 2010, 11:54:35 AM »
Quote from: TuffguyF4i on October 07, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
You could not have put better into words, why i do NOT commute on my bike.
Ever notice how many of the close call stories on here, are on my way to work? I'm sure that has alot to do with the frequency of that ride and miles traveled, but you are dealing with sleepy/aggressive/pissed off people on their way to work. Not a fun ride for sure.
Take it for what its worth, but i don't see the point in riding to work unless you have a fun ride.
Or - if commuting to a particular location (Downtown L.A. as an example) is much more difficult with a car.
Cycle wins, and gets me there at a predictable time. Car does not.
Logged
Christopher Robin awoke on the floor of the 100-acre woods, a dull headache, the smell of stale vomit, an empty bottle of Tequila and the memory of Eeyore saying "Relax and it will fit just fine&
fotomoto
Reputation 3
Offline
Motorcycles: 2005 RC51 1996 RCBVFR
GPS: South Texas
Miles Typed: 180
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #23 on:
October 07, 2010, 12:04:07 PM »
Quote from: TuffguyF4i on October 07, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
You could not have put better into words, why i do NOT commute on my bike.
Ever notice how many of the close call stories on here, are on my way to work? I'm sure that has alot to do with the frequency of that ride and miles traveled, but you are dealing with sleepy/aggressive/pissed off people on their way to work. Not a fun ride for sure.
Take it for what its worth, but i don't see the point in riding to work unless you have a fun ride.
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Ed, tell him what he's won.
To the OP: you did good considering the circumstances.
Logged
1/2%er
Reputation -3
Offline
Motorcycles: BMW Boxer
Miles Typed: 59
My Photo Gallery
varooom!
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #24 on:
October 07, 2010, 12:43:00 PM »
I've had a handful firm braking over the years I've ridden. This is the worst (closest call) that I've ever had and the ONLY one I've had while commuting in at LEAST 5-6 years.
Thing is if I only rode when others told me it was a safe time/trip etc., I'd never ride.
Every time I'm one the bike it is a pleasure. And normally I can get around all the car clusters - whereas in a car I'm stuck in my little place in line.
Besides I think commuting in addition to pleasure riding trips/weekend jaunts - adds up to make me a more well-rounded rider.
Logged
bomber
Reputation -192
Offline
Years Contributed: '10
Years Supported: '11
GPS: Sea of Joy
Miles Typed: 15633
My Photo Gallery
Let me Take my Chances on the Wall of Death
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #25 on:
October 07, 2010, 01:04:52 PM »
Quote from: 1/2%er on October 07, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
Every time I'm one the bike it is a pleasure. And normally I can get around all the car clusters - whereas in a car I'm stuck in my little place in line.
Besides I think commuting in addition to pleasure riding trips/weekend jaunts - adds up to make me a more well-rounded rider.
I agree with this sentiment entirely --
Logged
It's a good day for Bobby Blue Bland
Yankee Dog
Reputation 15
Offline
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: ...................... 06.Triumph Tiger ........................ 05.Ural.GearUp ........................................ 05.BMW.F650GS
GPS: Decatur, AL
Miles Typed: 1940
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #26 on:
October 07, 2010, 01:45:34 PM »
Quote from: TuffguyF4i on October 07, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
You could not have put better into words, why i do NOT commute on my bike.
Ever notice how many of the close call stories on here, are on my way to work? I'm sure that has alot to do with the frequency of that ride and miles traveled, but you are dealing with sleepy/aggressive/pissed off people on their way to work. Not a fun ride for sure.
Take it for what its worth, but i don't see the point in riding to work unless you have a fun ride.
my communte is straight down the freeway for about 15 miles. It is a heck of a lot more fun on the bike than in the cage.
just sayin ya kno
Yankee Dog
Logged
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #26 on:
October 07, 2010, 01:45:34 PM »
Logged
napper
Therm-A-Rest Test Pilot
Reputation 9
Offline
Years Contributed: '09, 10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: 1990 PC800; 2000 XR650L; 2000 VFR800
GPS: Glendale, AZ
Miles Typed: 734
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #27 on:
October 07, 2010, 04:46:32 PM »
Quote from: TuffguyF4i on October 07, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
Y
ou could not have put better into words, why i do NOT commute on my bike.
Ever notice how many of the close call stories on here, are on my way to work? I'm sure that has alot to do with the frequency of that ride and miles traveled, but you are dealing with sleepy/aggressive/pissed off people on their way to work. Not a fun ride for sure.
Take it for what its worth, but i don't see the point in riding to work unless you have a fun ride.
My motorcycle is toy, not a real form of transportation.
FTFY.
Logged
Martin K.
Glendale, AZ
theWolfTamer
Lupie on a Mission
Reputation -1
Offline
Motorcycles: 2005 Yamaha FZ1; 1993 Suzuki VX800
GPS: Firmly planted in the Georgia red clay
Miles Typed: 229
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #28 on:
October 07, 2010, 04:56:23 PM »
Quote from: kniepm on October 07, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
FTFY.
Logged
Fighting Lupus Daily
Explorer
Back roads master
Reputation 33
Offline
Years Contributed: '06, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: 92 Klr 650, 02 Fz1
GPS: CA, bay area
Miles Typed: 1548
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #29 on:
October 07, 2010, 07:13:20 PM »
Logged
Life's journey is not To arrive At the grave safely In a well preserved body But rather to skid In sideways Totally worn out Shouting Holy shit what a ride.
STJoe
Reputation 1
Offline
Motorcycles: Honda ST1100
GPS: St. Joseph, MO
Miles Typed: 184
My Photo Gallery
Right
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #30 on:
October 07, 2010, 07:27:31 PM »
Funny how in retrospec the surreal sense that it seemed to happen in slow motion, when in fact the brakes, shift, and mirror check was an instinctive response, as the mind sorted through the options and chose the correct course in split second. Had you been less experienced, or riding closer to the car in front of you, it might have been a good deal more than a "Hard Braking Incident".
Well done.
Logged
fotomoto
Reputation 3
Offline
Motorcycles: 2005 RC51 1996 RCBVFR
GPS: South Texas
Miles Typed: 180
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #31 on:
October 07, 2010, 10:30:15 PM »
Quote from: STJoe on October 07, 2010, 07:27:31 PM
Funny how in retrospec the surreal sense that it seemed to happen in slow motion, when in fact the brakes, shift, and mirror check was an instinctive response, as the mind sorted through the options and chose the correct course in split second.
Click on the "listen to" button as it's more in depth than the written copy on this link:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129112147
Logged
Mr Sunshine
Perfecto!
Reputation -12
Offline
Years Contributed: '06, '09
Motorcycles: 2010 Ducati Multistrada 1200 S Touring (white), 2003 SV650 Superbike (race), 2006 TTR-125LE
GPS: Redmond, Wa
Miles Typed: 7396
My Photo Gallery
Cute Picture, eh?
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #32 on:
October 07, 2010, 10:46:46 PM »
Welcome to my time on the track...hard braking once every 1:40seconds.
Logged
http://www.burgiracing.com
coho
Just here for the pie.
Reputation -2
Online
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: BMW R1100RT, BMW R1100R (on injured reserve), Yamaha StFU200 ("the dumbbike")
GPS: is for people who can't read maps
Miles Typed: 1991
My Photo Gallery
I can see you.
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #33 on:
October 08, 2010, 12:35:24 AM »
Quote from: Mr Sunshine on October 07, 2010, 10:46:46 PM
Welcome to my time on the track...hard braking once every 1:40seconds.
I see squids doing something like that on 15th in Ballard every couple days. Except it's more like 1.4 seconds from light to light.
To the OP:
Logged
"Where's the rep system when you need it? This thread is full of chortles. (Which is Chornbe crossed with turtles.)" - stromgal
"Let's be careful, it's dumb out there."
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #33 on:
October 08, 2010, 12:35:24 AM »
Logged
TuffguyF4i
Reputation -165
Offline
Motorcycles: '02 F4i, '99 1100xx, '04 GSXR 750
GPS: Farmington, CT
Miles Typed: 2720
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #34 on:
October 08, 2010, 06:13:29 AM »
Quote from: kniepm on October 07, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
FTFY.
Whats the point? My motorcycle(s) are a toys and not a form of real transportation. So what? I still log 30k/yr...those miles are spent in beautiful places on awesome rides.
In my opinion, commuting on the bike is not a value added prop. Clearly, some differ and thats cool...my way is not the only way, just like yours isn't either.
«
Last Edit: October 08, 2010, 06:15:21 AM by TuffguyF4i
»
Logged
big government leads to socialism which leads to communism
Eventually the people rise as the people always do, and then the government exerts it's power in the form of totalitarian rule to viole
chornbe
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #35 on:
October 08, 2010, 06:50:46 AM »
Quote from: TuffguyF4i on October 07, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
You could not have put better into words, why i do NOT commute on my bike.
Ever notice how many of the close call stories on here, are on my way to work? I'm sure that has alot to do with the frequency of that ride and miles traveled, but you are dealing with sleepy/aggressive/pissed off people on their way to work. Not a fun ride for sure.
Take it for what its worth, but i don't see the point in riding to work unless you have a fun ride.
Meh, I dunno... a varied-style commute could really help to hone certain skills, if you survive it any length of time.
Someone who deals with traffic is likely going to have a pretty good rapport with his machine; gear selection, rapid gear shifts, intuitive throttle control, multitasking his Looking, mirror and head checks, etc.
Someone who deals with multiple season commuting, or a volatile climate is likely to have a decent understanding of weather, its affect on traffic patters, varying road surfaces and tire grip, etc. He probably has a clear understanding of maximizing temperature regulation, and balancing comfort and "bulk" of layering, etc.
Someone who deals with a lot of start/stop/start driving is likely someone who has learned to maximize his efficiencies in routine maintenance of the machine, as start/stop driving tends to beat up a machine pretty well.
Someone who commutes across various types of roads and terrain, from city to "country" driving is probably someone who sees a little bit of everything, and has developed a pretty clear head for "uh oh" moments, reading traffic patterns, finding "the zone", etc.
Quote from: TuffguyF4i on October 08, 2010, 06:13:29 AM
Whats the point? My motorcycle(s) are a toys and not a form of real transportation. So what? I still log 30k/yr...those miles are spent in beautiful places on awesome rides.
In my opinion, commuting on the bike is not a value added prop. Clearly, some differ and thats cool...my way is not the only way, just like yours isn't either.
The nerve of you suggesting there are more ways than just one to look at a situation!
«
Last Edit: October 08, 2010, 06:53:42 AM by JustCallMeChris
»
Logged
napper
Therm-A-Rest Test Pilot
Reputation 9
Offline
Years Contributed: '09, 10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: 1990 PC800; 2000 XR650L; 2000 VFR800
GPS: Glendale, AZ
Miles Typed: 734
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #36 on:
October 08, 2010, 09:14:37 AM »
Quote from: JustCallMeChris on October 08, 2010, 06:50:46 AM
Meh, I dunno... a varied-style commute could really help to hone certain skills,
if you survive it any length of time.
Someone who deals with traffic is likely going to have a pretty good rapport with his machine; gear selection, rapid gear shifts, intuitive throttle control, multitasking his Looking, mirror and head checks, etc.
Someone who deals with multiple season commuting, or a volatile climate is likely to have a decent understanding of weather, its affect on traffic patters, varying road surfaces and tire grip, etc. He probably has a clear understanding of maximizing temperature regulation, and balancing comfort and "bulk" of layering, etc.
Someone who deals with a lot of start/stop/start driving is likely someone who has learned to maximize his efficiencies in routine maintenance of the machine, as start/stop driving tends to beat up a machine pretty well.
Someone who commutes across various types of roads and terrain, from city to "country" driving is probably someone who sees a little bit of everything, and has developed a pretty clear head for "uh oh" moments, reading traffic patterns, finding "the zone", etc.
The nerve of you suggesting there are more ways than just one to look at a situation!
If you can achieve that, anything else is just gravy.
Logged
Martin K.
Glendale, AZ
jay547
Junior Member
Reputation 21
Offline
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: 2005 Kawasaki Z750S, 2002 Honda CR250, 1973 Yamaha AT-3
GPS: Northeastern, OK
Miles Typed: 1530
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #37 on:
October 08, 2010, 02:18:50 PM »
i had a hard braking incident this morning also. i was on a three-lane, northbound heading to work at about 40 mph. two lanes went straight with the right lane turning to a highway ramp. i was in the middle lane and about to change to the right lane. there were two cars in front of me - not signaling, not braking. i signaled, checked the mirror, then glanced back to make sure it was clear. when i looked back forward, the two cars in front of me had suddenly slowed to about 20 mph to also change lanes. i immediately (panic) grabbed a handful of front brake and it momentarily locked up - i heard the tire squeal. i let off a little and slowed safely. i've been riding off and on since 1973 and this was the first time i'd ever locked up the front brake on a street bike.
Logged
It's not the fall that hurts, it's when you hit the ground.
JJones-lg
Junior Member
Reputation 10
Offline
Years Contributed: '07, '08
Miles Typed: 108
My Photo Gallery
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #38 on:
October 08, 2010, 02:46:24 PM »
Braking to a stop and counting on the guy behind you is asking for trouble. I'm always looking for the escape route with equal priority. I've had to use an escape route several times in heavy traffic. Just last week I'm riding to work and see brake lights ahead. I'm in the left lane and looked down the road to see what appeared to be brake smoke and a car on the shoulder. The Nissan Titan in front of me locked up his brakes about time I was grabbing mine. I grabbed a bit too much rear brake and the back end stepped out as I dived for the shoulder. Wouldn't ya know it so did he and I thought I was a goner. I squeezed as close to the k-rail as I could and slipped though. Needless to say I'm paying more attention to my following distance and adjusted accordingly.
jj
Logged
Dan K
Reputation 2
Offline
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: '06 Triumph Daytona, '06 Triumph Sprint ST with ABS!
GPS: North of Chicago (flat lands w/no twisties)
Miles Typed: 2981
My Photo Gallery
I'm only here to help. Really.
Re: Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
«
Reply #39 on:
October 08, 2010, 04:07:40 PM »
I've learned more about my bike and riding from my 48 mile round trip commute to down town Chicago than any class.
But I will say that if my ride home was no fun, I'd likely take the cage (there's no hope for the ride in). I have a decent car that I enjoy driving, with lots of bells and whistles and a great stereo to keep me entertained. I don't need to ride, I just prefer to. Way better gas mileage too. Getting ready to leave work now. Friday nights, ride home is a crap shoot for some of the way, but I'm looking forward to it!
- Dan
Logged
Sport touring defined: It was just going cool places, far away, on our bikes and always riding them like we were in a race. - Biking Sailor
airstash.com - check it out!
Pages:
1
[
2
]
All
Go Up
Print
Sport-Touring.Net
»
The Open Road
»
General Sport-Touring Discussion
» Topic:
Analysis - Hard Braking Incident
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Administration
-----------------------------
=> Announcements & Rules
-----------------------------
The Open Road
-----------------------------
=> General Sport-Touring Discussion
=> Ride Reports
=> Motorcycle Polls
=> Beginner's Garage
=> ST.N Rallies/Meets
===> STN National
===> Borscht Burn
===> ESTN
===> SNOB
===> WCRM
-----------------------------
The Club House
-----------------------------
=> Pit Row
=> Iron Butt
=> Dirt Lovers
===> Off Road Ride Reports
=> Manufacturer Row
===> Aprilia
===> BMW
===> Buell
===> Ducati
===> Harley-Davidson
===> Honda
===> Kawasaki
===> KTM
===> Moto Guzzi
===> Suzuki
===> Triumph
===> Yamaha
===> Other
-----------------------------
The Tech Zone
-----------------------------
=> Mods & Maintenance
=> Gadgets
=> Gear and Apparel
-----------------------------
Global Positioning
-----------------------------
=> U.S. Region 1
=> U.S. Region 2
=> U.S. Region 3
=> U.S. Region 4
=> U.S. Region 5
=> U.S. Region 6
=> Canada
=> Europe & U.K.
=> Australia & New Zealand
-----------------------------
The Marketplace
-----------------------------
=> Bike Tech
=> Bikes Only
=> Non-bike Items
=> Vendor, Group Buy, Member Offers
-----------------------------
The Lounge
-----------------------------
=> Off Topic Discussion
=> EOE: Experts On Everything
Loading...
Copyright © 2001 - 2012 Sport-Touring.Net.
All rights reserved.
SimplePortal 2.3.1 © 2008-2009, SimplePortal