BMW K1600GT and GTL Unveiled

[Rogue]

Given the size and weight, wouldn't it be more fun to just drive an 135?  You can pass without a downshift on one too.  

[atadaskew]

 However, after the disaster of the K1300GT which was discontinued after only two years, I would probably choose to wait a bit just to make sure the design is sound.

?

Please explain.

[SLK50]

?

Please explain.

   Either he's pissed because he didn't buy one when he had the chance, or

he did buy one and now they're being closed-out for 33% less than he paid.

[Robus]

   Either he's pissed because he didn't buy one when he had the chance, or

he did buy one and now they're being closed-out for 33% less than he paid.

From what I have heard there have been mechanical problems, for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eH6F8bVi7g

I'm not sure why BMW discontinued the GT after only two years.  I did consider buying one but chose the RT instead.

[SLK50]

  I'm actually sorry to see the 1300 go.

  But, IF I could get the 1600 for about 10% more than a similarly
equipped 1300 the decision would be a no-brainer for me.

  Nothing matches the sound of an inline-six on the boil.  

[keepergale]

Man did you see the guy in the video crank up the already DOA K13GT and let it spew out the last of its oil. I guess he knew it was not going to be him paying for repairs.

[SLK50]

Man did you see the guy in the video crank up the already DOA K13GT and let it spew out the last of its oil. I guess he knew it was not going to be him paying for repairs.

  Catastrophic engine failures do occasionally occur. I've had two in the last 35 years.

  They are not mutually exclusive to BMW.

   

[BobW]

I think the problem is not the rare catastrophic failure, but the routine reports of "beta testing" or an entire model generations with the same type failure for several years. Too many alibi their favorite OEM when poor quality control, stone walling, apathy or ? from the Company should not be accepted, let alone defended, especially on a premium brand. With the manufacturing processes used/available today it is even less acceptable. Flip side is the good rumor that BMW is using less external sourcing and also will offer better support in warranty/good will situations. I don't have a problem if something breaks (per se) it is only when the Dealership/OEM experience makes the problem worse rather than making you feel like they're genuinely there to reasonably support their product.

BTW, I hope the new GT isn't too good, my bike addiction has always been there, but since I retired my wallet never seems to get put away and I don't need one of these, I don't need one of these, I don't need one of these........

[atadaskew]

 I don't have a problem if something breaks (per se) it is only when the Dealership/OEM experience makes the problem worse rather than making you feel like they're genuinely there to reasonably support their product.

I had issues with my Suzuki dealer and Suzuki when the frame cracked on my TL1000S.  This was a common occurence but they gave me the standard "never heard of that" routine, and then asked if I had taken the bike off road!

Apart from that one sweet jump, never did...
(j/k!)

Of course the next dealership one town over had three broken frames hanging in their work bay..

[mcrider007]

I agree, however the rep did mention that included freight and setup.... For the $22K.... We will see....

From another Forum:

Ride West BMW in Seattle have just published the prices on their Facebook Wall

K1600GT Base $20,900
K1600GT Fully Loaded(*) $24,540


K1600GTL Base $23,200
K1600GTL Fully Loaded(*) $25845

Base includes Xenon Headlight,heated grips,heated seat,cruise,ABS,Power Windshield and LED turn signals
Fully loaded in the context of these bikes includes above plus Bluetooth Audio,GPS,ESA,TPM,Adaptive Headlight,alarm,Fog Lights etc


Looks like the K1600GT Base with freight and setup will be about 22K, add $3640 for a fully loaded model.  I doubt you will be able to find a Base model on a showroom floor unless it is a special order.

[Rincewind]

From another Forum:

Ride West BMW in Seattle have just published the prices on their Facebook Wall

K1600GT Base $20,900
K1600GT Fully Loaded(*) $24,540


K1600GTL Base $23,200
K1600GTL Fully Loaded(*) $25845

Base includes Xenon Headlight,heated grips,heated seat,cruise,ABS,Power Windshield and LED turn signals
Fully loaded in the context of these bikes includes above plus Bluetooth Audio,GPS,ESA,TPM,Adaptive Headlight,alarm,Fog Lights etc


Looks like the K1600GT Base with freight and setup will be about 22K, add $3640 for a fully loaded model.  I doubt you will be able to find a Base model on a showroom floor unless it is a special order.

Those base prices have been confirmed on the BMW site.  Yes, that's a lot of money for a motorcycle, but it seems an extremely competitive price next to the Gold Wings which start at $22,899 and go all the way to $27,999 with all the trimmings.  To get the Gold Wing model with built-in satellite radio, it appears to be $25,399 - whereas the BMW comes standard with that, plus Bluetooth!

My local dealer says they will start getting the K1600's in March.  

[Geoff]

Neither BMW nor the K1600GT was to be found at the Chicagi IMS show last weekend. It's all smoke in mirrors.

[miles]

Here's the pricing, courtesy of our local dealer:

Actual pricing for the first 2012 K1600 GTL's which are totally loaded is $26,340.  That's every option including the GTL Safety Package, and the GTL Luxury Package, so radio, alarm with remote locking, TPM, ASC, fog lights, everything. So $23,200 base + $995 Safety Package + $1,650 GTL Luxury Package + $495 factory destination charge = $26,340

The 2012 K1600GT will be $25,035 and will also be loaded, Audio package (standard on the GTL), Safety Package and GT Luxury package.  The GT Luxury package does not seem to include the fog lights, otherwise everything, radio, alarm with remote locking , TPM, ASC, everything.  The difference seems to be the price of top case which is standard, and mounted slightly further back on the GTL.  So,  $20,900 base + $1,395 Audio Package + $995 Safety Package + $1,250 GT Luxury Package + $495 factory destination charge = $25,035

[Geoff]

Here's the pricing, courtesy of our local dealer:

Actual pricing for the first 2012 K1600 GTL's which are totally loaded is $26,340.  That's every option including the GTL Safety Package, and the GTL Luxury Package, so radio, alarm with remote locking, TPM, ASC, fog lights, everything. So $23,200 base + $995 Safety Package + $1,650 GTL Luxury Package + $495 factory destination charge = $26,340

The 2012 K1600GT will be $25,035 and will also be loaded, Audio package (standard on the GTL), Safety Package and GT Luxury package.  The GT Luxury package does not seem to include the fog lights, otherwise everything, radio, alarm with remote locking , TPM, ASC, everything.  The difference seems to be the price of top case which is standard, and mounted slightly further back on the GTL.  So,  $20,900 base + $1,395 Audio Package + $995 Safety Package + $1,250 GT Luxury Package + $495 factory destination charge = $25,035

At these crazy prices it's no wonder BMW skipped the Chicago IMS show.  

I forsee a spike in FJR and Concours 14 sales.  

[SLK50]

At these crazy prices it's no wonder BMW skipped the Chicago IMS show.  

I forsee a spike in FJR and Concours 14 sales.  

  Then you will be surprised to find out BMW's pre-order program surpassed expectations
and the end date had to be moved up so orders wouldn't exceed production.

  Even if it isn't the world's greatest motorcycle its nice to see some fresh ideas
pumped into this otherwise stale market segment.

[Geoff]

  Then you will be surprised to find out BMW's pre-order program surpassed expectations
and the end date had to be moved up so orders wouldn't exceed production.

  Even if it isn't the world's greatest motorcycle its nice to see some fresh ideas
pumped into this otherwise stale market segment.

Good for BMW. Perhaps they'll make enough money to attend next year's Chicago IMS show.

[miles]

BMW's North American sales were up 21% last year, in a time when overall motorcycle sales in the US and Canada were down nearly 50%.  Clearly they are doing something better than the rest of the field is.

[atadaskew]

The top Gwings cost more, offer much much less.  Basically the same bike that came out in 2001.
These new BMWs ARE very well priced, seeing their competition costs the same if not more - Gwing, Victory Vision, loaded Eglides.