MTS1200 - How do you like it now?

[Shizoku]

I've got almost 19,000 miles on my 2010, the rear brake has been fixed, the bags have been fixed, nothing has ever fallen off, it has never left me stranded, it's been very dependable.
I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a 2012 model. If mine were to disapear, I'd buy another right away.

What was the issue with the rear brakes?
I read on a couple of the MTS boards that this is a common issue along with a few others.
Thanks,
Dave

[falcofred]

What was the issue with the rear brakes?
I read on a couple of the MTS boards that this is a common issue along with a few others.
Thanks,
Dave

The original rear brake constantly got air in the system and became soft and useless. I bleed it, the shop bleed it, I wrote to Ducati NA and they replaced the rear master cylinder with a new (but same part number) master cylinder, but still air kept getting in, no fluid ever leaked out.
Finally Ducati had a recall or a service bulletin, they came out with an entirely new rear master cylinder and now my rear brake is nice an firm. Still not much stopping power there, but Ducati's traditionally don't have much rear brake, plenty of front brake where you need it though. I just use the rear for holding the bike at stop lights on hills and if riding on gravel or dirt roads which I rarely do.
This winter I plan on installing some HH brake pads front and rear as recommended in the long term test report in Motorcyclist Magazine, that should bring the braking up to par. The braking is good now, but why settle for good, when you can have great for just over $100.00

[Flyer]

I am worried about the reliability issues though.

After 5000 miles, my '10 has been reliable with the exception of the RF interference issue.
There is a fuel stop nearest my home, under a tower with multiple antennae on top, that I don't dare use, as twice, I've had to push the bike 50-60' to get anything to come to life.
I observe that the fuelling issue at 3-4K is much diminished as the air gets colder and denser now in the pre-winter weather.
I've not had any ECU reflash since taking delivery in early April.
I bled the rear brake myself, resulting in improved effect. It's probably almost as good as the rear on the ZZR now.

I still believe the "keyless" ignition is a pointless affectation, and I seriously recommend Ducati (and others) reconsider the wisdom of continuing to use it.
It's just another layer of worry, and a source of income for the dealer when it goes wonky after warranty coverage expires.

Oh, and DO NOT EVER sell your Galaxy Silver Bullet!  
I really regret dumping mine...

[Shizoku]

Oh, and DO NOT EVER sell your Galaxy Silver Bullet!  
I really regret dumping mine...

LOL!  I do plan on keeping the ZED!  
Just had it tuned up about a month ago and it runs GREAT!!!

[KodiakRS]

Going to test ride, and possibly pull the triger on, a '12 s touring tomorrow.  Any reason not too?

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[falconati]

They're expensive.  

[GTS_Rider]

They're expensive.  

But worth it!  

BTW... Where's the pix?

It's a forgone conclusion, if you test-rode, and had the money available, it would conclude with a purchase...  

[jfusaro]

Going to test ride, and possibly pull the triger on, a '12 s touring tomorrow.  Any reason not too?

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Don't do it, test rides turn into purchases and Ducati knows this all to well. As far as me still liking it hell yeah, one of the best  bikes I ever owned.

[Cozye]

But worth it!  

BTW... Where's the pix?

It's a forgone conclusion, if you test-rode, and had the money available, it would conclude with a purchase...  

He's riding it now and can't be bothere with playing on the Internet  

[KodiakRS]

He's riding it now and can't be bothere with playing on the Internet  

Rode the 2012, big mistake.  I'm ruined and will never want to ride another bike ever again.  Turns out the dealer had a 2010 s touring with some nice farkles on it and only 2100 miles.  Picking it up tomorrow as soon as I can get the insurance sorted.  Pics to follow.  

[expatbrit]

Rode the 2012, big mistake.  I'm ruined and will never want to ride another bike ever again.  Turns out the dealer had a 2010 s touring with some nice farkles on it and only 2100 miles.  Picking it up tomorrow as soon as I can get the insurance sorted.  Pics to follow.  

Funny how that works, isn't it?

[KodiakRS]

The Good:
-It's comfrotable
-It's F#$%^&*ing fast
-It go's around corners pretty fast
-Electric suspension/engine controls are NICE!

The Bad:
-Not a whole lot of wind protection
-1st gear is a little tall making tooling along at <10mph in rush hour a chore
-Rear brake is almost worthless
-Little bit vibey

[Cozye]

The Bad:
-Not a whole lot of wind protection
-1st gear is a little tall making tooling along at <10mph in rush hour a chore
-Rear brake is almost worthless
-Little bit vibey

There are a lot of windscreen options out there, and a whole bunch of opinions on which ones work best. It's personal preference I'm sure. You will find something that works for you.

The bike doesn't like being ridden below 3k rpm, shouldn't have much vibration above that. Mine is smooth IMO.

The rear brake is worthless because the bike is so light. It won't do any good when you have the front binders squeezed good and the rear tire is in the air. Ride it like a sport bike and forget about much rear brake. The rear brake does work better than the one on my cbr did fwiw.

Some people are going to a shorter gearing. Personally I like the taller gearing as it gets better mpg and is good for long trips. If it still bothers you after you get used to it, put a 14t on the front. Many swear by it.

[KodiakRS]

There are a lot of windscreen options out there, and a whole bunch of opinions on which ones work best. It's personal preference I'm sure. You will find something that works for you.

The bike doesn't like being ridden below 3k rpm, shouldn't have much vibration above that. Mine is smooth IMO.

The rear brake is worthless because the bike is so light. It won't do any good when you have the front binders squeezed good and the rear tire is in the air. Ride it like a sport bike and forget about much rear brake. The rear brake does work better than the one on my cbr did fwiw.

Some people are going to a shorter gearing. Personally I like the taller gearing as it gets better mpg and is good for long trips. If it still bothers you after you get used to it, put a 14t on the front. Many swear by it.

The bike is more shaky than vibey really.  It's not even close to being a deal breaker just an observation.  The rear brake becomes an issue at low speed or if you want to use the rear to hold the bike in place on a slope.  

As for the gearing, it's perfectly fine unless you get stuck in stop and go traffic where you pretty much have to constantly slip the clutch.  

[SalsaShark]

First off congrats...

Second, try the urban mode when in traffic. I never thought I would use it, but it makes tooling along in traffic very smooth.

[falcofred]

The bike is more shaky than vibey really.  It's not even close to being a deal breaker just an observation.  The rear brake becomes an issue at low speed or if you want to use the rear to hold the bike in place on a slope.  

I had my rear brake system replaced under warranty, new master cylinder design. Not perfect, but it will hold the bike on a slope.

[KodiakRS]

another minor issue.  Some moron over at Ducati decided to put the keyhole for the rear seat cover about 2 inches away from the exhaust pipes.  Now my glove (and thankfully not my hand) has a nice scorch mark on it.  

[SalsaShark]

another minor issue.  Some moron over at Ducati decided to put the keyhole for the rear seat cover about 2 inches away from the exhaust pipes.  Now my glove (and thankfully not my hand) has a nice scorch mark on it.  

Just wait until the first time you ride off and forget to remove the key from that spot... Get about a quarter mile before the dash light up with the "NO KEY" Error message.

that'll make your heart jump!

 

[expatbrit]

Just wait until the first time you ride off and forget to remove the key from that spot... Get about a quarter mile before the dash light up with the "NO KEY" Error message.

that'll make your heart jump!

 

It's worse when it DOESN'T do that, you get to your destination and realise it's STILL THERE.

The point when you think about it falling out, being out of petrol, etc. There are many times when I really like the keyless ignition. And sometimes I just cringe.

[Motozeke]

I have ridden off at various times with the key in each of the 3 possible pannier locks and the seat lock. Never had it fall out, melt or get damaged, did get the NO KEY message once though.

Fortunately the locking mechanism seems to keep a solid grip on the key when you're on the move.