2011 Ducati Diavel

[phoenix]

http://www.ducati.com/news/the_name_is_diavel__/2010/10/12/1827/index.do

[chornbe]

Oh look... it's a VMax by Ducati.

[MisterSmooth]

OK, it looks cool.  But how do you pronounce it?  DEE-ah-vel?  DIE-ah-vel?  Die-AH-vel?  


Shoot, this is worse than Dainese.     Italians.  

[chornbe]

OK, it looks cool.  But how do you pronounce it?  DEE-ah-vel?  DIE-ah-vel?  Die-AH-vel?  


Shoot, this is worse than Dainese.     Italians.  

I'm going with that one.

It's meant to be 'devil'.

[SLK50]

  I'm sure if you're REALLY tired of slammed, stretched, chrome-plated 'Busas
this would do in a pinch.  Not really what I picture when I think "Ducati".

  What ever happened to the Streetfighter? I liked that one.

[ConPilot1]

Oh look... it's a VMax by Ducati.

Oh look....a VRod with a Ducati motor.

[Rincewind]

It's gonna take a very large man-purse to match that.

[chornbe]

It's gonna take a very large man-purse to match that.

"It's. Not. A. Purse." -- Dexter

[marc11]

Gawd that is just awful ugly IMHO.  And what is that hanging over the center of the rear tire, the devils tale?  Where is the rest of the bike, the back part?  That red stripe between the two taillights looks like a tampon on something.

The headers are pretty nice, beyond that I am guessing FAIL, diminishes the brand a bit too I think.

[Dan K]

I'd pass on the chrome wheels, but I think it's a pretty cool bike.  Always wanted a VMax, and I like the Vrod with mid controls.

I'll bet this thing flies.  If it handles, even better.  I like it.

- Dan

[ConPilot1]

Ya know it's cool and all, but seriously, a motorcycle where the only storage is in your jacket pockets is completely useless to me.

[Dan K]

Ya know it's cool and all, but seriously, a motorcycle where the only storage is in your jacket pockets is completely useless to me.

That's why you own more than one bike, silly.  One for practicality (commuting, touring, etc.) and one for cuising with your phone and wallet in your pockets.

- Dan

[MadMax96]

I like how Ducati is really expanding their line up - but I think they need to just stay clear of the cruiser market.  

It's kinda like Porsche building an SUV...  sure, it's fast, but would you rea  lly want to (could you?) go off-roading with it?

[MisterSmooth]

Are those Buell side pods that I spy?   That's where the NOS went.  


Kidding aside, I'm with the guys who think this looks cool.  Hope it goes well, too.  

[shah269]

Needs a turbo!

[Dan K]

How is that bike anything like a cruiser?  Because it's a little longer?  I like Ducati, never owned one, ridden many.  I can't see this bike being anything like a cruiser.  More like an 1198 with even more relaxed ergos than the Multi, plus lower to the ground.  I think this is more like the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 (without the bags) than a cruiser.  Look at it...yes, it has chrome wheels and may be a little longer than necessary, but a cruiser?  Nahh...

- Dan

[Rincewind]

And what is that hanging over the center of the rear tire, the devils tale?

License plate holder, methinks.

[Galo]

OK, it looks cool.  But how do you pronounce it?  DEE-ah-vel?  DIE-ah-vel?  Die-AH-vel?  


Shoot, this is worse than Dainese.     Italians.  

It's dee-ahh-vel....no accents/emphasized syllables. If anything, a slight emphasis on the 'ahh'
Devil is correct....

Il sono un estudente de Italiano....

Me likey. It seems to be a cross between sport-tourer and cruiser and I like how they blended those two themes...

[ScottysB12]

Oh look....a VRod with a Ducati motor.

with a hint of B king?

[shah269]

How big is that rear wheel?
You know.......this may not be a bad thing.
If these guys figured out how to slap that much rubber on the ass of this bike maybe the next ST bikes will have larger tires too.
More tire = more contact patch = more stable
oh and it looks sexy!
just Armorall it and all the ladies will be all over you!

[Rincewind]

Ducati is giving Guzzi a run for the name, "The Italian Harley."

[bubba zanetti]

Bold design for a Ducati.  When I talk to family in England all they tell me about motorcycles is the number of Harleys and Harleylike bikes on the roads all over Europe.  I imagine marketing is pushing for this bike and hats off to Ducati for not going down the traditional cruiser look.  

Vmaxy is good and likely would be a hoot to ride.


Edit ... the photo above is not very flattering  

[Rincewind]

How big is that rear wheel?
You know.......this may not be a bad thing.
If these guys figured out how to slap that much rubber on the ass of this bike maybe the next ST bikes will have larger tires too.
More tire = more contact patch = more stable
oh and it looks sexy!
just Armorall it and all the ladies will be all over you!

240-section rear  = 9.4" wide.   Sure it's stable in a straight line, but corner handling is compromised.  Ducati says they got around this somehow in their design - but I don't buy it on first blush.    

The Triumph Rocket III also uses this size tire.

[bomber]

with a hint of B king?

Zactly! (I was wondering how to put it) . . .seems it is answering a question no one has asked.

Of course, I thought that about the first BMW GS, and the first Gold Wing (pre-tupperware), so that COULD indicate a smashing success in the making.

[Dave the slave]

I like it... don't know what with all the hate.

[atadaskew]

I like it... don't know what with all the hate.

Imagine if it was a Honda..
Posted on: November 01, 2010, 03:36:25 PM

It's kinda like Porsche building an SUV...  sure, it's fast, but would you rea  lly want to (could you?) go off-roading with it?

The Porsche SUV has been their best selling car since the day it arrived.

[Justin]

I'm with the "I think it's ugly" crowd

[JamesG]

Its beyond ugly. It looks stupid.

WTF Ducati?

[Giaka]

Meh I like unique (ugly) but this one is boarderline ugly-strange and that's where it loses me. Ah heck I would probably ride it if I had too.  

[atadaskew]

The Diavel is Ducati's intepretation of a power cruiser. If any of you have been to the European continent recently, you would have noticed that the cruiser market is exploding over there. When I was in Austria, Italy, Germany and Switzerland I saw more cruisers than other bikes.

So this is Ducati's take on it. They already make hard core sport bikes, hard core street bikes, naked bikes, sport touring bikes. So why make another one of those?
Think of this as the anti-Harley. Ya want a power cruiser? All the other options are some motor, some chassis , heavy weight and that's about it.
Ya want a Ducati power cruiser? Well then step up to the next generation. Ya got the strongest motor/weight ratio. Ya got killer brakes. Ya got class leading suspension. Ya got traction control. Ya got a slipper clutch. Ya got the hottest, most technologically advanced cruiser around.
Don't like this bike? Cool, then step up to their 1198, MS1200, Street Fighter, Hypomotard, etc.
Ducati's giving you choices. Leading edge choices. Or would you prefer they made a 750lb, 110hp bike?

[flips21]

That red stripe between the two taillights looks like a tampon on something.

Must get image out of head.

[Rincewind]

456lbs and 160hp is extremely impressive for a power cruiser.  No heavy weight shaft for this bike.

[swimmer]

I bet these sell great.  For a lot of people owning a Ducati is all about image and getting attention.  This motorcycle is bold and attention getting and I'm sure it would be great for cruising around town in and showing off what you can afford.

It would be one of the last motorcycles I'd ever buy but I'm not dumb enough to think Ducati was thinking of me when they designed it.

[DavidLSI]

[R Doug]

I'm not into power cruisers as a bike for me.  But as power cruisers go, this one's the best looking one I've seen.

I hope it's not a flop for Ducati and they are able to hit their market.  If Ducati can take profits made on this beast and turn that cash into R&D for new core bike and racing, I'm all for it.  

[R Doug]

Based on looks alone....

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[Jeff]

I'm not into power cruisers as a bike for me.  But as power cruiser go, this one's the best looking one I've seen.

Bluepoof, is a 30.3" seat height good for you? If so, here's your Ducati.

[JamesG]

 If Ducati can take profits made on this beast and turn that cash into R&D for new full baggers and a line of Ducati branded chrome accessories, I'm all for it.

Oh, and don't forget the tassels.

[MadOzodi]

At least that exhaust doesn't look like it'll in the way of your right heel like the Streetfighter's does.  It's different...I like it.  

Now...how much will it cost?

[xsrider]

I don't think you'll be able to mount hard bags on that.  Not much room for soft bags either.  I guess it won't be much of a sport-touring bike.  

[Tpoppa]

Not for me, but I'll be curious to see if it sells.

Ugly Duc-ling??

[Orson]

Ducatisti: Note European shoulder bag (purse)



Guzzisti:

[Dave R]

some more press from Bike Exif


http://www.bikeexif.com/ducati-diavel?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Bikeexif+%28Bike+EXIF%29

[Rincewind]

From the Ducati Intro at the Milan show





Motorcycle Daily write-up --> http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2010/11/ducati-diavel-revealed/

[garry]

Meh. The front looks too bulbous to me with all that plastic around the radiator and the chin spoiler and whatnot. It kinda reminds me of the Griso: sporty looking, long, standard ergos. No doubt it goes like stink with that engine.

Not what I'm looking for in a bike, but at least the Euro brands are bringing new models to market. Give them props for trying  

[RenegadeVT]

It's like a fat women with a beautiful face.  You know that it is fat but there is just something about it that you can't stop looking at it!

OK, here come the negative votes!

[Rincewind]

Looks better with a leather-clad, high-heeled model on it.  

[MisterSmooth]

Looks better with a leather-clad, high-heeled model on it.  

Doesn't everything?  

[Rincewind]

Doesn't everything?   

 

[JonS]

Looks better with a leather-clad, high-heeled model on it.  

Considering the Duc I ride, there is no way I will call that one ugly.
I will say that the black and red is so much better looking than the one the beautiful Ducati babe is on.

[Fun Dog]

Don't like bikes with short tails.  They just look stupid to me.  Don't like the gas tank either.  Other than that, not a bad effort.  Could use underseat exhaust, but the single-sided swingarm is always a welcome presence.

[crispiegee1]

It took THREE pages for somebody (Garry) to finally point out that it looks like the Moto Guzzi Griso!

Not my kind of bike, and like Fun Dog, I'm not a fan of short tails. The Speed Triple has a tail that look like the rear end of poodle. What passenger will have the courage to balance her butt on that?

[Dave the slave]

Doesn't everything?  

I know I look better that way..

[tomek]

Teultuls have received  heavy flak for their Monster chop job,but let`s face it,those dudes are visionaries and trend setters.  

[veefer800canuck]

Oh look....a VRod with a Ducati motor.

Eggs-zachary what my first thought was......

[Dave R]

http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/11/ducati-diavel-deep-dive/#more-8437
here's a bit more in depth information on the bike..  and some additional decent shots..
Stainless steel tank cover means magnetic tank bags are back!!  

[JonS]

Teultuls have received  heavy flak for their Monster chop job,but let`s face it,those dudes are visionaries and trend setters.  

  Now that's a scary thought!

[flips21]

Stainless steel tank cover means magnetic tank bags are back!!  

Uhhh...

Stainless isn't magnetic.

Sorry

[falconati]

Eh, I don't really like it.  That said, I don't mind the design and wouldn't have a use for one.

[Dave R]

Uhhh...

Stainless isn't magnetic.

Sorry

fine!  suction cups are in!  

[Punchdude]

Meh. Cool design and concept but not for me...

[phoenix]

I am Facebook "friends" with Ducati Omaha. One of their comments with respect to pricing:

$16,995 for Diavel and $19,995 for Diavel Carbon Black, $20,395 for Diavel Carbon Red

[JamesG]

Wow.  They are smokin' crack in Balonia.

[Dan K]

Uhhh...

Stainless isn't magnetic.

Sorry

What?  ALuminum panelled "stainless steel" appliances aren't magnetic, but good old stainless steel, like in my switchblade?  Magnetic.

- Dan

[flips21]

What?  ALuminum panelled "stainless steel" appliances aren't magnetic, but good old stainless steel, like in my switchblade?  Magnetic.

- Dan

I mis-spoke.  Most stainless in the 300 series isn't magnetic because it has nickle in it to improve the corrosion resistance provided by the chromium.  If you have chromium only, then it can be magnetic.

[Rincewind]

Diavel Official video.  They have some nice slow-motion video of the bike handling some corners.  Granted, the rider is hanging off pretty far, but the bike seems to be doing a pretty admirable job.  

[MisterSmooth]

Cool vid.  

All things considered, I'd rather have a Guzzi Griso 8V.  A little cheaper, less gimmicky styling, seems more "honest" somehow.  About 30 HP less, though.  

[Dan K]

I still like it. Would have to ride one to see if it was enjoyable as a daily bike, but I like it.  Other than the wide bars, I dtill don't get the cruiser reference but ok.

 -Dan

[falconati]

Cool vid.  

All things considered, I'd rather have a Guzzi Griso 8V.  A little cheaper, less gimmicky styling, seems more "honest" somehow.  About 30 HP less, though.  

I agree - the Griso needs about 30 more hp  

[atadaskew]

Diavel Official video.  They have some nice slow-motion video of the bike ..

That's not slow motion....
 
Posted on: November 12, 2010, 11:24:42 AM

All things considered, I'd rather have a Guzzi Griso 8V.  A little cheaper, less gimmicky styling, seems more "honest" somehow.  About 30 HP less, though.  

Agreed.  The Griso looks fantastic, and it has been out for 5 years now.  Rides great too and you don't have to deal with weird size tyres, or a chain..
My Harley (RIP) made me realize how nice it is to have a bike that needs next to zero maintenance, and has tyres that last a looong time.
The Griso is a version of that.  Plus I know I won't get tired of looking at it.  Plus it's going to handle better than the Diavel.
Plus.. I'm rambling... it's Friday and I'm tired!!

[falconati]

CMON GUZZI!  Give us a faster, cheaper Griso!

Also, 21k miles until valve job plz  

[Biking Sailor]

Saw, touched, sat on one at the Dallas MC show.  Ergos similar to my 1200 sport, upright with slight forward lean.  Felt lighter, but no 6 gal. of gas! (all bikes there had no oil or gas, fire marshall thing, I think)
The info stands said $12K+ on the standard and $14K+ on the carbon model. They only had two there.  Quite a bit less than the others, Street Fighter, Monster...
Huge size back tire, not sure how well they can make that work but reminded me of a customer chopper, the back tire did!
For those that like to use the pillion pegs for alternate position, they fold out from the seat cowling from back to front.  Put your foot there and it folds back up!
Did not think the wheels were bright chrome, more like a black chrome coating.  Overall the bike does look cool in a Griso kind of way.  Too each his own.  

[atadaskew]

The info stands said $12K+ on the standard and $14K+ on the carbon model.

Hmm, much less than the $20K I've heard elsewhere.
Posted on: November 15, 2010, 02:36:12 PM

Hmm, much less than the $20K I've heard elsewhere.

Assfelt and Rubber sez $20K..

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/ducati-diavel-termignoni-exhaust/

[Mr Sunshine]

Diavel Official video.  They have some nice slow-motion video of the bike handling some corners.  Granted, the rider is hanging off pretty far, but the bike seems to be doing a pretty admirable job.  

The rider isn't really hanging far off at all.  

[Rincewind]

The rider isn't really hanging far off at all.  

Well his upper body is definitely out there, but you're right his seat is in one place.

[atadaskew]

Saw, touched, sat on one at the Dallas MC show.  Ergos similar to my 1200 sport, upright with slight forward lean.  Felt lighter, but no 6 gal. of gas! (all bikes there had no oil or gas, fire marshall thing, I think)
The info stands said $12K+ on the standard and $14K+ on the carbon model. They only had two there.  

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/577/8503/Motorcycle-Article/Ducati-Prices-Diavel-at--16-995.aspx

$17-$21K

[Aero]

I sat on a couple and had a good look from all angles at the recent motorcycle show in Birmingham, UK and although I am not really in the market for this type of bike I have to give it a   . It is a new concept, a power cruiser which isn't just about the horsepower although with 160hp it will have the legs of just about any of the competition. The V-Max is no competition, although it makes more power it also weighs about 50% more than the Diavel and costs 30% more here in the UK and looks pig-ugly as well. They must be selling'em by the pound!

The Diavel's electronics package is a tour de force, truly awesome, and the whole bike seems to bring 21st century technology to a class of bike which previously was just all about horsepower and bragging rights. Of course, I haven't ridden one yet but I look forward to getting a demo on one in 2011!

Here's a couple of videos about the design and technology...

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89svUJ_rtBs&feature=player_embedded

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlFu0eyZxk4&feature=player_embedded

[Flyer]

I pray I'm in the minority opinion here, but I'm quite sure the B-King is feeling pretty handsome right now.
The only visually appealing bit is the rosso trellis frame.  
A junkyard poodle, fast n' nasty, but man, who does your hair.  

[Baz]

I swear the Tutles had something to do with this.

[eng943]

Attention Harley, that's how you build a vtwin power cruiser.

I like the new Vmax much better though. It nails the musclebike look, and the V4 sounds like a BB Chevy. Not to mention how understressed that 1,670 cc mill is at only 197hp. Lots of potential there, as I am seeing exhaust, ECM tuned bikes putting down 200+whp.  

For a musclebike V4>Twin. Nice effort Ducati, but I'll take the original hot rod bike.  

   

   

[zenwhipper]

Man those are some wide ass bars for a Ducati.   They prolly needed to get some wider drafting paper in to the design crew for those babies.

[2DFlyer]

Where's the barfo emoticon?  I'm thinking Italian V Rod.

[Orson]

Man those are some wide ass bars for a Ducati.   They prolly needed to get some wider drafting paper in to the design crew for those babies.

I noticed the wide beachcomber-style handlebars are the current rage among Italian Harlistas.

I reckon Ducati is probably aiming this bike at them.

[Dave R]

Lots of new shots being released from the press launch in Spain...  


Should be a few good reports out this next week!

http://www.ducatiusa.com/news/diavel_press_launch/2011/02/03/1957/index.do

[Flyer]

Lots of new shots being released from the press launch in Spain...

The different backdrops and angles don't seem to be helping.  

[Dave R]

okay, how about a real world shot...


http://www.motoblog.it/post/28130/test-ducati-diavel-diavolo-di-un-diavel

The different backdrops and angles don't seem to be helping.  

[falcofred]

Has anyone seen the Diavel in the flesh?
Does Ducati have one at the IMS shows?

[SalsaShark]

Has anyone seen the Diavel in the flesh?
Does Ducati have one at the IMS shows?

I asked the salesman at my local dealership last week when they were getting one in... He asked if I was just trying to piss him off?! I guess he's not much of a fan either.  

[falcofred]

I asked the salesman at my local dealership last week when they were getting one in... He asked if I was just trying to piss him off?! I guess he's not much of a fan either.  

I'm betting that this thing takes off and sells well. There are a lot of older, inseam challanged guys with $ who have always wanted a Ducati, but didn't want a high maintenance bike, or couldn't stand the committed riding possition of the sport bikes, or didn't have enough inseam to ride the Multistrada.

[Dave R]

Yes it has been following the IMS.   Both a black carbon and a red standard are on tour.  We should start seeing them late Feb, early March.  Maybe we're a bit different but we're excited for them to arrive!  

Has anyone seen the Diavel in the flesh?
Does Ducati have one at the IMS shows?

[Flyer]

...There are a lot of older, inseam challanged guys with $ who have always wanted a Ducati...

Cruise?


Cruise???



Cruise????

He asked if I was just trying to piss him off?!

 

[FBRR]

Well The fokls at Motor cyclist said Ducati have done their homework and made a wide tire handle like a sport bike. ( That's what they said)
I like the Streetfighter but I don't want any DUCATI with a plastic tank. They haven't ever fixed the "spread" problem.

While the looks aren't great, I think it's much better than a VMAX or a B-King. Although some of the B-Kings with different exhaust aren't "too" bad. All that said the top speed isn't "limited" like a MAX! As it will still handle at speed!!

I wish they hadn't gone that far with the rear tire! But I still like the bike!!

And it doesn't have a "DUCK BILL" sticking out front!!

Of course if Ducati makes a Streetfighter with a metal gas tank, it would make the choice much easier!

[Lakeguy556]

Heres the first official rider review I have seen pop up.  Seems like they absolutely loved it. Heres the end quote:

"The question of exactly what it is – performance cruiser, Monster on steroids, street drag bike or whatever – ends up as irrelevant, overshadowed by something much more simple to understand: this is the most exciting and rewarding motorcycle you can buy".

http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/ducati-diavel-0

[Dave R]

a decent video of the bike in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of0XO6m5geE

[caddydaddy]

a decent video of the bike in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of0XO6m5geE

It wheelies easily!    Looks like a fun bike.  Where do I sign?  

[Aero]

The MCN (UK) tester was impressed too, and he has 20 years of road testing under his belt.
I must get a ride on one of these, I think I'm getting converted!

             http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides--tests/2011/February/feb0711-ducati-diavel-first-ride-blown-away/

[SVTNate]

Ditto on getting converted.  Initial ride reports are promising.  Steel skinned tank, the rear LED lights, the aluminum mirrors... first class stuff.  Of course the model I want is the most expensive... the red Carbon.  

FJR is for sale, and I'm setting aside money.  I might still end up with a 2011 Speed Triple, or a 2011 K1300S, but the Diavel is in serious contention.  I will be calling my local dealer next week to see when they expect to add one to their stable of demo bikes.

[Aero]

And here's the MCN video:

                    http://bcove.me/ci1u64j7

I want to go to Spain!  

[Espada]

The MCN (UK) tester was impressed too, and he has 20 years of road testing under his belt.
I must get a ride on one of these, I think I'm getting converted!

             http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides--tests/2011/February/feb0711-ducati-diavel-first-ride-blown-away/

It's like 2010 all over again with the Multi' 1200.  Haters gonna hate until they put ass to saddle.  

[DaleFranks]

I can't wait to test this thing.  I fell in love with the Multistrada 1200S.

That long wheelbase and big honkin' rear tire still makes me wonder about handling, though.

[Croak]

I can't wait to test this thing.  I fell in love with the Multistrada 1200S.

That long wheelbase and big honkin' rear tire still makes me wonder about handling, though.

Yeah, even the most glowing reports about it seem to bring up the low-speed issues.  Not glaring, but present, and something to keep in mind.  Bet it'd be a handful going up Stelvio Pass, for instance.  

Then again, with the twist that mill has, the low weight and strong braking power combined, you can "make up the time" between the slow bends better than most bikes out there.  

[County Tar]

another review:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/02/2011-ducati-diavel-md-first-ride/

[Bottomdog]

From my local dealer. Thought you guys might enjoy.

[County Tar]

Nice road.  Where is it?

The guy seemed fairly hesitant to lean into the corners.  He slowed down each time.  Was it the rider or the bike?

[SVTNate]

I cringed every time the cameraman crossed over the yellow line and ran up the ass of the slow rider in front of him.  

[falconati]

I cringed every time the cameraman crossed over the yellow line and ran up the ass of the slow rider in front of him.  

[SalsaShark]

Nice road.  Where is it?

Youtube says it's at The Rock Store so I'm assuming here...

[Dave R]

It was Mulholland up to the Rock store and back down to the PCH.  The camera I was using is a contour and it has a very wide angle lens.. mounted on the side of my RF1100 caused it to aim left a little...  Never actually crossed or touched the yellow  

here's the route we took

I cringed every time the cameraman crossed over the yellow line and ran up the ass of the slow rider in front of him.  

[County Tar]

More Diavel:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-second-ride-ducati-diavel/

I still don't see why they think its a cruiser.  Maybe a standard?

[Orson]

I still don't see why they think its a cruiser.  Maybe a standard?

Just my opinion,

I've noticed an increase in Harleys in Europe in the past 10 years.

my take is that, Ducati is aiming this bike to take a cut of that portion of the market.

[atadaskew]

To be fair, Harley is just going after the Guzzi Cali market...

The fools.

[nferr]

More Diavel:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/03/md-second-ride-ducati-diavel/

I still don't see why they think its a cruiser.  Maybe a standard?

Exactly. Definitely not a cruiser. It's a powerful standard.

[OKC-N1K]

I think it's a better looking and just overall better executed V-Max than well, a V-Max. It Won't appeal to a lot of people but it will appel to those looking for a muscle bike. And like I said it is well done in my opinion, in person it looks much better and if you sit on one it's simply amazing. The thing is so lite that you will go to heft it up and you'll just about throw it over and loose it.

Yamaha just flat out missed the boat with the V-max and the it took the italians to show the Japanese how to make a true light weight "muscle bike". I like it and will most likely own one some day.