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« on: November 03, 2010, 08:16:01 AM »

Guzzi has released their newest version of the Stelvio.

The current version finally offers and 8 1/2 gallon fuel tank. An option that many had asked for.

I just recently bought a 2009 leftover Stelvio and it's fantastic, but it sure would have been nice with that kind of range.

Anyway, they've sharpened the looks up a bit on the fairing and tank. Here it is for those of you that haven't seen it yet.....

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o71/DougRitchie/2011NTX.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o71/DougRitchie/1074497669_2jVR5-L.jpg
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 08:37:57 AM »

8.5 Gallons is pretty extreme!  Dare I say overcompensation.  

Are we getting this new NTX in the US, or do we get last year's NTX?
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 09:22:39 AM »

I'm happy with my 09, but a little more gas would be nice on long distance/remote area rides. I use rotopax, but I'm very interested in how they fit all that extra gas on her in both looks and how she handles the extra weight placed so high on an already top heavy platform.  Such a cool bike, it's good to see they are trying to keep her fresh especially with some of the new kids on the block strutting their stuff.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 09:47:41 AM »

Nice bike. Are they as solid and reliable a platform for a big enduro like the GS?
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 10:04:10 AM »


Nice bike. Are they as solid and reliable a platform for a big enduro like the GS?


The Guzzi is a ridiculously simple machine. Simplicity usually means reliability. It's a basic pushrod, screw-type valve train, wet-sump engine, air-cooled, low(er)-revving mill. Separated, bolt-on starter and alternator, non-integrated transmission/gearbox. The engine hangs from the frame, and other than the computer controlled fuel injection, there's nothing "hi tech" about it.

I'd slap a decent took kit, tire repair kit and a few bottles of water in my Guzzi and head ANYWHERE on it. It's been ridiculously reliable and, being very familiar with engines and mechanical/tech in general, I can't think of too many bikes I'd trust more.

The Sportster was even simpler and more trustworthy.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 10:10:40 AM »




The Guzzi is a ridiculously simple machine. Simplicity usually means reliability. It's a basic pushrod, screw-type valve train, wet-sump engine, air-cooled, low(er)-revving mill. Separated, bolt-on starter and alternator, non-integrated transmission/gearbox. The engine hangs from the frame, and other than the computer controlled fuel injection, there's nothing "hi tech" about it.

I'd slap a decent took kit, tire repair kit and a few bottles of water in my Guzzi and head ANYWHERE on it. It's been ridiculously reliable and, being very familiar with engines and mechanical/tech in general, I can't think of too many bikes I'd trust more.

The Sportster was even simpler and more trustworthy.

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Note: that's not to say that newer, higher-tech machines aren't trustworthy and reliable. Don't confuse my appreciation of the simpler machines as "dissing" the higher-tech stuff. Gimme a CBR/RR for sport / track riding any day of the week. But for every day, get on and go stuff... gimme simple.  Thumbsup


Good to know because I'm leaning more towards a bike such as the GS or similar for my next major bike purchase. The shite roads up here in NEPA and not looking to improve anytime soon and a growing desire to explore roads I wouldn't take the Connie down, plus my personal silly need to pack the entire house on the bike is making me look at something like this. I've heard nothing but good about the GS series as far a touring capabilities and
they say the GS handles like a dream and is stupid-stable.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 10:17:46 AM »

The GS in particular has a huge and loyal following. The air-cooled boxers are, like the Guzzi, simple, easy to work on and maintain, and deliver power nicely. I personally don't like the "personality" of BMW's boxers, but I get why people love them, and you can't find too many negatives about the design; it's been around for a long, long time.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 12:59:07 PM »


Nice bike. Are they as solid and reliable a platform for a big enduro like the GS?


I've never heard of a FD failure on a Guzzi.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 01:07:27 PM »




I've never heard of a FD failure on a Guzzi.


    MG sends out a team of "cleaners" to make sure you never do.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 01:11:57 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 01:12:41 PM »




I've never heard of a FD failure on a Guzzi.


They have had failures in the CARC drive.  
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 01:13:19 PM »



http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o71/DougRitchie/1074497669_2jVR5-L.jpg


Where did they put all that additional gas capacity?  Here is the old one - the 2010 NTX.  On the new one above, the tank looks very slightly larger at the top - but not enough to hide an additional 4-gallons of gas.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1724/2010motoguzzistelvio120.jpg
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 01:14:07 PM »




Where did they put all that additional gas capacity?  Here is the old one - the 2010 NTX.  On the new one above, the tank looks very slightly larger at the top - but not enough to hide an additional 4-gallons of gas.



Maybe it lays under the seat some, like the Connie-14 does. Plus, it could be only marginally wider yet hold considerably more thanks to the shape.







They have had failures in the CARC drive.  


SHIT NOW I HAVE TO SELL MY GUZZI. PANIC!!!
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 01:20:05 PM »




    MG sends out a team of "cleaners" to make sure you never do.  Wink


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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2010, 01:41:46 PM »

My take was the 8.5 gal tank was an option.  Is this picture shown above with that option, or did I misread it and that 8.5 gall tank is the standard one?
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 01:48:21 PM »





SHIT NOW I HAVE TO SELL MY GUZZI. PANIC!!!


Specifically in the Breva 1100's, as I recall.   Bigsmile
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2010, 01:49:15 PM »




Specifically in the Breva 1100's, as I recall.   Bigsmile


Damn it. Time to fire sale it.

Or just set it on fire.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2010, 05:09:36 AM »

They did have a CARC issue on a few early bikes and unlike "another" company that denies several varieties of FD failures have been plaguing their offerings for too long, MG made corrections and replaced them across the VIN range. BTW, I also liked that when the new ape V4 engine had problems, Piaggio did a complete engine R+R across the board. I have no issues when a part fails, I do have a problem when "they all do that" is the "cure". Don't get me wrong, I am a huge BMW fan, but Kool Aid is an unacceptable option to getting problems reliably sorted (regardless the Brand). BMW has a huge leg up on MG with "good" dealership options and that is a huge cornerstone needed to be in place for any chance of long term success.  

The tank has room to expand where the glove box is on the right side and there is a matching void on the left that could handle tank expansion. After that, things are fairly tight unless they get their own version of "Fat Bob" tanks Crazy   Lol Being the "Italian Harley", it could happen Bigsmile
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2010, 06:02:58 AM »




Where did they put all that additional gas capacity?  Here is the old one - the 2010 NTX.  On the new one above, the tank looks very slightly larger at the top - but not enough to hide an additional 4-gallons of gas.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1724/2010motoguzzistelvio120.jpg


If you look carefully, you'll see that the tank now extends forward into the fairing. They've eliminated the little glove box on the right side as well. Previously that was all dead space.
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2010, 07:32:40 AM »




If you look carefully, you'll see that the tank now extends forward into the fairing. They've eliminated the little glove box on the right side as well. Previously that was all dead space.


Very interesting.  I thought they may have done it that way.  Thanks.  
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